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Spider-Man 4 Info
« on: June 10, 2009, 03:56:36 AM »
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NEW YORK, New York -- Kirsten Dunst will return as Mary Jane Watson, "Spider-Man 4" producer Todd Black told the New York Post.

The star will rejoin director Sam Raimi and star Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker's love interest in the latest installment in the popular superhero franchise, which is slated for May 6, 2011.

However, don't expect wedding bells for Mary Jane and Peter - Black told the newspaper that he was unaware of such a subplot. At the close of "Spider-Man 3," the two had an emotional - but ambiguous - reunion after the film's events drove the lovers apart.

Additionally, Black hinted at the film's villain, shooting down online rumors that pegged comic book character Morbius the Living Vampire as the latest member of Spidey's rogue gallery.

Instead, the producer told the Post that the villain had a significant connection to the Big Apple.

"We're just coming up with who the villain is now," he said. "We'll be shooting in New York again. Trust me, people will appreciate who we pick, because it'll be a big part of New York."

In past films, Spider-Man has faced off with the Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus, Venom and Sandman, leaving a number of famous villains who could make their silver screen debut in "Spider-Man 4."

Among the popular options are Kraven the Hunter, Chameleon, the Hobgoblin, Mysterio, Venom offspring Carnage and the Lizard, whose human alter-ego, Dr. Curt Connors, had a role in the previous two movies.

Another potential foe could be New York crime boss the Kingpin - however, the character appeared in 20th Century Fox's "Daredevil" and would likely require a rights acquisition by Sony Pictures.

But the crime lord would give the film a New York connection - and would also be Access Hollywood film critic Scott Mantz's top choice.

"The Kingpin is grounded in reality, and that's the appeal of Spider-Man," Mantz said, adding another suggestion to the mix - femme fatale the Black Cat. "I'd like to see the Kingpin and the Black Cat, to stir the pot with Peter's relationship with Mary Jane."

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/access-hollywood-spider-man-4.html

Not the biggest info, but it mentions that Morbius won't be the villain and that the actual villain will have something big to do with New York. Seems like Kingpin would be the best bet by this info, but I'm still really hoping to see the combination of Carnage/Lizard. Hopefully with Black Cat in it as well.



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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 09:11:10 AM »
wth? They should have brought in Felicia Hardy/Black Cat in Spiderman 3 instead of Gwen Stacy.

Oh well. Hopefully the end result will be better then SM3.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 10:27:11 AM »
Well, when they talk about the villain being connected to New York, I feel like it's nothing more than empty information that is not false but not important. I would put money down that it's not the Kingpin because the only link to the Kingpin is the New York comment which I feel is calculated to be misleading.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 11:40:49 AM »
i hope they don't throw too much out there at once like they did with the last flick. They had too much much going on and no way for it to pan out. I'm sorry folks, but I seriously think we need a new parker. I mean he was not that much of a dork after he got the powers. They got away with it in the first flicks, but now Parker needs to grow up. PLUS we need a hotter mary jane cuz this salad eating chick ain't cutting it. Yeah I said it!! I would like to see the shocker or the vulter make some kind of appearance though...
 

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 12:05:13 PM »
 :o ZOMG!!!  im so excited!!! I cant wate!!!!!  XD||


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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 12:05:35 PM »
Call me crazy, but I'd like to see a Ben Riley appearance, mayby even full scale clone wars, but then again seeing what they did with Harry as Green Goblin...and Venom......

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 12:09:25 PM »
Call me crazy, but I'd like to see a Ben Riley appearance, mayby even full scale clone wars, but then again seeing what they did with Harry as Green Goblin...and Venom......

Yeah... no! Your crazy. The general population had a really hard time with 3 because of venom. We dont need to throw clones into the mix now too.
(maybe after the realyens or whatever they are called actualy prove they have cloned a human and it becomes a hot socal issue again then i could see it working but right now the fear of cloning isnt in the forfront)

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 12:46:27 PM »
Regardless of the villain, I read that Stan Lee is one of the writers for this installment so it's gotta be amazing in the end.

I'd rather not see Kingpin, but instead Chameleon or just someone with powers. Morbius, the Living Vampire was actually someone who would of been interesting to see. Sinister Six would be pretty epic, but won't happen.

I can't wait though. I enjoyed part 3, maybe not as much as the previous installments, but I liked it regardless of what others say. Especially now that Stan Lee is helping write this, I'm even more excited. ;D


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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 08:03:12 PM »
 just ask the director to stick batzarros rhino in the film  :-?? (dont ask me why i sed dat)
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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2009, 08:08:30 PM »
I left out one thing I would love marvel to do for movies, but they (Hollywood)  might be too scared to take the risk. MARVEL TEAM-UPS!!
 

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2009, 08:31:36 PM »
That would be funny if the movie showed the first ever.. Symbiote Dr. Lizard... that would be ironic.. lol...
 

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2009, 08:34:45 PM »
Carnage and Lizard is who I'm most hoping for, but seeing some of the suggested villains, I'm thinking Hobgoblin stands a good chance of being in it. No particular reason, actually. I just like his...ORANGENESS.
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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2009, 08:48:20 PM »
carnage should be in it bottom line.


they messed up venom  so I THINK that carnage should be in this one, AND they should do it right this time! ~X(

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2009, 10:35:59 PM »
venom will return iam willing to bet on that one. carange would be crazy. and they still havent improvised the lizard into all this, they have the option to do so, we can only wait and see.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2009, 11:00:47 PM »
id hate to see Carnage , cause lets see, psychopath that kills ppl for fun and or because they have a stupid name(see 1st apperance)....yeah defiantly a type of character that would love to see in a pg 13 movie...yaayyy no blood, and he talks his victoms to death instead of ripping them apart  =) ....cant wait lol ...allthough crank spidy up to an R and we got a deal , i love carnage as much as the next spidey fan but if u cant give me somewhat comic accurate( and we all know they wont) i dont want to see it, allthough lizard would kick butt as well

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 12:34:20 AM »
id hate to see Carnage , cause lets see, psychopath that kills ppl for fun and or because they have a stupid name(see 1st apperance)....yeah defiantly a type of character that would love to see in a pg 13 movie...yaayyy no blood, and he talks his victoms to death instead of ripping them apart  =) ....cant wait lol ...allthough crank spidy up to an R and we got a deal , i love carnage as much as the next spidey fan but if u cant give me somewhat comic accurate( and we all know they wont) i dont want to see it, allthough lizard would kick @$$ as well
Well they could do it the way T3 did it and turn the camera toward a wall and hear screams while blood flies on the wall. lol

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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 12:46:32 AM »
id hate to see Carnage , cause lets see, psychopath that kills ppl for fun and or because they have a stupid name(see 1st apperance)....yeah defiantly a type of character that would love to see in a pg 13 movie...yaayyy no blood, and he talks his victoms to death instead of ripping them apart  =) ....cant wait lol ...allthough crank spidy up to an R and we got a deal , i love carnage as much as the next spidey fan but if u cant give me somewhat comic accurate( and we all know they wont) i dont want to see it, allthough lizard would kick @$$ as well

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 01:28:56 AM »
It's gonna be Tarantula....just wait and see ;D

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 02:02:26 AM »
venom will return iam willing to bet on that one. carange would be crazy. and they still havent improvised the lizard into all this, they have the option to do so, we can only wait and see.

Uhh didn't Venom blow up, I clearly remember his skull appearing out of the fire when he went ka-boom!  :o



Carnage would work right just because he does come after Venom, it make sense, he could be what was left behind and also even though he's rated R, the film doesn't have to show it's nasty side to be true. Suggestive violence is more intense than actual violence believe it or not. Just look back at Scarface the movie starring Al Pacino; the chainsaw scene got it a very bad rating but they never did show the chainsaw cutting the guy, it was suggestive. You don't give your imagination enough credit, let it blow stuff up out of proportion and you'll be a happier geek  :)
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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 03:24:03 AM »
Cool, I really enjoyed the last 3 Spiderman films. Cant wait for more info, or even a teaser.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2009, 12:29:48 PM »
they need a new mary jane dunst is not good and she is mad ugly.

They shoulda got the dude who played venom to be peter parker in the first place...

neways carnage should be in it but he would probably be like the joker was in dark knight since thats who carnage was modeled after

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2009, 12:44:23 PM »
I would like to see venom come back well I hope that venom comes back and lizard



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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2009, 01:15:34 PM »
i really hope for carnage and lizard this would be awesome

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2009, 01:18:55 PM »
i hope they don't throw too much out there at once like they did with the last flick. They had too much much going on and no way for it to pan out. I'm sorry folks, but I seriously think we need a new parker. I mean he was not that much of a dork after he got the powers. They got away with it in the first flicks, but now Parker needs to grow up. PLUS we need a hotter mary jane cuz this salad eating chick ain't cutting it. Yeah I said it!! I would like to see the shocker or the vulter make some kind of appearance though...
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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2009, 02:33:52 PM »
they need a new mary jane dunst is not good and she is mad ugly.

They shoulda got the dude who played venom to be peter parker in the first place...

neways carnage should be in it but he would probably be like the joker was in dark knight since thats who carnage was modeled after
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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2009, 10:38:16 AM »
Uhh didn't Venom blow up, I clearly remember his skull appearing out of the fire when he went ka-boom!  :o



Carnage would work right just because he does come after Venom, it make sense, he could be what was left behind and also even though he's rated R, the film doesn't have to show it's nasty side to be true. Suggestive violence is more intense than actual violence believe it or not. Just look back at Scarface the movie starring Al Pacino; the chainsaw scene got it a very bad rating but they never did show the chainsaw cutting the guy, it was suggestive. You don't give your imagination enough credit, let it blow stuff up out of proportion and you'll be a happier geek  :)

No, after the explosion there was nothing, not even a body. So venom is still alive.


Carnage is a horable idea, it also requires venom still being alive to do. Carnage is a slasher villan, and it wouldnt work good with the studio. If venom even makes an appreance again he still wont be the main villian. The main villain is defently going to be a classic spidey villian.
I think Norman Osborn is going to come back after prooving he faked his own death.


they need a new mary jane dunst is not good and she is mad ugly.

They shoulda got the dude who played venom to be peter parker in the first place...

neways carnage should be in it but he would probably be like the joker was in dark knight since thats who carnage was modeled after

Is your brain fractured? Or do you just not know what good looking is?
Dunst is hot. And they shouldnt change the cast at all.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2009, 11:02:51 AM »
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they need a new mary jane dunst is not good and she is mad ugly.


Kirsten Dunst is not ugly, she is a beautiful women, but also not my type... :-??

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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2009, 12:14:59 PM »
ok people i have really bad news BUT...CARNAGE WILL NOT BE IN A SPIDEY FILM and i know this

why? when Raimi was asked about the Venom movie a month or so back he mentioned Carnage, thats why.

Now honestly i know i said this is bad news but it could be good news.. cuz hopefully in the Venom movie they'll go all out, maybe make it an R, and have Carnage in all his murdering glory.

Although TDK's Joker was spot on in violence and insanity and it was still a PG-13 movie..a very violent and disturbing PG-13 movie, but still PG-13

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2009, 11:41:38 PM »
I doubt we'd get Hobgoblin. We've already had two glider guys already. they'd be looking for something new and more interesting.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2009, 12:39:26 AM »
New goblin was hobgoblin, just a new name and suit.  They did the same thing to whiplash a.k.a Blacklash of iron man fame.

Spidey needs an old school villain to put him on track *think silver era comics*. Lizard and chameleon are perfect for the role, although seeing electro would be a fun romp.
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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2009, 01:11:09 AM »
I think Rhino would be cool if another spidey villian was also in the film

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2009, 11:56:39 AM »
New goblin was hobgoblin, just a new name and suit.  They did the same thing to whiplash a.k.a Blacklash of iron man fame.

wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong and full of  :lies:

Harry was Green Goblin 2, thats what new goblin was, GG2. NEVER EVER was Harry the hobgoblin, never ever.

It really annoys me when people say that harry's goblin was hobbie.

Also, whiplash is a better name then backlash and he's going to be played by Mickey Rourke

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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2009, 03:08:00 PM »
 XD|| i luv 2 see electro in dis too

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2009, 08:19:41 PM »
Harry was Hobgoblin in the Ultimate universe. That's where the misconception came from.

As far as whether venom is dead or not:






Jeez, it's like the new "Han shot first" thing  :-??
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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2009, 10:08:35 AM »
There would have been a body left or something if venom/eddy was really dead.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2009, 03:42:11 PM »
Well people say its horrible because.... it was horrible. He was supposed to be the green goblin, not new goblin or hobgoblin. He was supposed to wear his dads suit and ride his dads glider. Not wear a crapped out power ranger suit and ride on a hoverboard from back to the future 2.

Another thing I hated was in the movies they depicted Mary Jane as a whore. She starts dating Peters best friend, then she gets engaged to Peters boss' son, then she finally gets with Peter, only to go back to his best friend.

I really can't believe they had the balls to put in Gwen Stacey in Spiderman 3. I always thought they put in Mary Jane in the first movie because all the kids are more familiar with her. What they should have done was made Gwen in the first movie, have her killed off, then Harry would be angry at Peter for Gwen and Normans death. For the 3rd movie they could have brought in Black Cat/Felicia Hardy instead because it would have made a bit more sense, rather then making everything backwards.

To be honest, I don't even want a Spider-Man 4. The directors will obviously find some way to mess the series up even more.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2009, 10:07:30 PM »
There would have been a body left or something if venom/eddy was really dead.

SEE?

...and the spiderman series has been excellent thus far IMO. I think we were all so pissy about spiderman 3 because the first two gave us such a high bar to look for.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2009, 11:17:54 PM »
There would have been a body left or something if venom/eddy was really dead.
In real life? Yes.
In a PG rated movie? Probably not.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see Venom come back in another movie so they might do the character justice. Spider-man 3 was only supposed to feature Sandman. Venom was just written in as an afterthought. That's why he's inexplicably missing for a big chunk of that last fight.

I really hope they don't put Carnage in Spider-man 4. He's a violent psychopathic mass-murderer in the comics, but to keep a PG rating they'd have to water him down to the point where he's as silly as he was in the 90's Spider-man cartoon.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2009, 12:49:49 PM »
In real life? Yes.
In a PG rated movie? Probably not.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see Venom come back in another movie so they might do the character justice. Spider-man 3 was only supposed to feature Sandman. Venom was just written in as an afterthought. That's why he's inexplicably missing for a big chunk of that last fight.

I really hope they don't put Carnage in Spider-man 4. He's a violent psychopathic mass-murderer in the comics, but to keep a PG rating they'd have to water him down to the point where he's as silly as he was in the 90's Spider-man cartoon.

If i remember correctly, i beleve the studo pressured to have venom in due to large ammounts of fan demand. If Sam had it his way, he never would have been it, and he would have kept strictly to they "classic" spiderman villans.

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2009, 06:16:34 PM »
i'm happy to see that there's going to be another spider man movie, and maybe u guys shouldn't be too upset with villains like venom dying in the films. i mean how long do u think they can keep making movies and implementing them in each, i see no point in putting a villain in one movie and then not having them show up in any of the rest :-??

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Re: Spider-Man 4 Info
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2009, 06:16:28 PM »
Lizard's gotta be in the next one.  But if they're gonna have a second villain, it should be either Morbius or Kraven.  If Morbius is not going to be in it now, then definitely Kraven.

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« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2009, 07:12:07 PM »
kraven would be uber rad.

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