Post by: A New Challenger on August 15, 2009, 03:32:55 PM
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2936/gothamknights.png)
Working together is nice.
Post by: Beto on August 15, 2009, 03:37:11 PM
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 15, 2009, 03:38:02 PM
Post by: TomBewley on August 15, 2009, 03:54:41 PM
Seeing this has given me even more motivation to get more of Ivy done.
Really nice design on them all, especially Ra's and Catwoman
Just one question, who is that between Bane and Jason?
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on August 15, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
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AwesomePromethus one of the gods of greek
Seeing this has given me even more motivation to get more of Ivy done.
Really nice design on them all, especially Ra's and Catwoman
Just one question, who is that between Bane and Jason?
Collaborative efforts have a ton of it. All these here, between Infinity and the Unlimited. Some of this stuff you guys are seeing for the first time, but many of them have progress in double digit percentage.Lookling foward to..
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2936/gothamknights.png)
Working together is nice.
-Prometheus
-Ra's Al Ghul
-Deathstroke
Also wheres
stephanie brown
Post by: A New Challenger on August 15, 2009, 05:24:17 PM
Miss Stephanie Brown is a BG element in the Gotham Bay stage. We'd be stretching to make yet another unique Bat-clan member movelist for Cass as it is... Spoiler will have to settle for being eye-candy. She's a cool in the stage though; you'll see.
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/310/stephh.png)
Post by: Infinite Power on August 15, 2009, 05:31:03 PM
Post by: Alexziq on August 15, 2009, 06:36:57 PM
Seems like that ast update should be released if thats the case (Out of respect to the dozens of posters that contributed)
Post by: Astaroth on August 15, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
But yeah, everything else looks great, I must say. Especially Nightwing and Ras Al Ghul.
Post by: Sabaki on August 15, 2009, 07:11:24 PM
So IMT's Batman is dropped?/:O No, IMT's Batman's not dropped. Last I heard from acey, he's working on smoothing out the spritework, while the coding (for the most part), is done. Unless I missed something while out on vacation ???
Seems like that ast update should be released if thats the case (Out of respect to the dozens of posters that contributed)
Glad to hear that collaborations have been helping you guys, ANC. I can say the same for us here, for some of your spriting help over the recent months have helped to better some WIPs. Let's hope we can continue to help each other and bring forth some great characters to mugen :)
Post by: HQ on August 15, 2009, 07:45:15 PM
btw...u might just ask Hobgoblin (Creator of Vulture) too add his Penguin to this list :D
Post by: volzzilla on August 15, 2009, 10:10:27 PM
-focusing on catwoman in a video during scruffyversary
-all the emphasis on batman
-azrael is apparently a wip by wucash
-recent joker release
-said penguin wip
-previous work on a batman project before
of course take that with a grain of salt as i thought SGM was going to release Dr.Doomsday during their anniversary, so sometimes i overthink things like that, lol.
Post by: ColdPyro on August 15, 2009, 10:37:58 PM
Post by: Kojunho on August 15, 2009, 10:58:42 PM
Post by: volzzilla on August 15, 2009, 11:01:59 PM
Post by: A New Challenger on August 15, 2009, 11:56:42 PM
Post by: Kojunho on August 16, 2009, 12:17:16 AM
Post by: Acey on August 16, 2009, 12:20:19 AM
Infinity's Batman isn't dropped at all. This isn't a roster list or anything, but a demo of what a game could look like with serious collaborative efforts by say, next year. as far as "But you both made Batman!" well, there's a very easy way to reconcile that and have them on the select as different entities. More when there's more to be said.
^^(PM)^
We're still hard at work with Batman, while still pushing forward the EoH project and such. Collaboration is going to produce some wonderful stuff over the next year though. We're very lucky to be friends with such a group of tallented creators (as evidenced by the graphic ANC posted.)
Regarding IMT Batman and The Unlimited Batman, that is really the beauty of the project, the screen pack will be released early on so you can pick with ever Batman you prefer. Mugen is all about customization so why not use it to the fullest and let there be more than one Batman to chose from, especially since each of us went into making Batman in the first place without realizing that anyone else had something promissing in the works. Now we're just blessed to be full of Batmen.
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 16, 2009, 05:37:18 AM
Ra's and Catwoman have great designs. Is that Lady Shiva as well.? Was hoping someone would take a crack at making a Creeper design, as he's a real unique char no one's really touched down on.
Anyways, I still wanted to touch up Scarecrow's design some to look a little more like yours as it had a creepier/better feel the way you went about things.
Feeling amped up for this project.! :w00t:
Post by: Sabaki on August 16, 2009, 10:21:43 AM
pssstt....Aceys a girlLooks like I know something that you don't know ;*)). Anyways, enough with the gender talk, this is about the Unlimited's current projects, so don't mention it again please [-X
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on August 16, 2009, 11:56:17 AM
while i really don't know, i have a feeling scruffy is going to resurrect their batman project and they will keep their penguin. i'm just guesstimating but its based off of...If they do, the Scruffy Dragons will have to contend with thieves and leechers.
-focusing on catwoman in a video during scruffyversary
-all the emphasis on batman
-azrael is apparently a wip by wucash
-recent joker release
-said penguin wip
-previous work on a batman project before
of course take that with a grain of salt as i thought SGM was going to release Dr.Doomsday during their anniversary, so sometimes i overthink things like that, lol.
Post by: Kojunho on August 16, 2009, 12:04:06 PM
I mean....what?
Post by: Alexziq on August 16, 2009, 01:03:05 PM
HECKS YEAH WE FIGHTING! XD||
I mean....what?
I'll 2nd that.
huh? /:O
Post by: Shockdingo on August 16, 2009, 04:26:49 PM
Collaborative efforts have a ton of it. All these here, between Infinity and the Unlimited. Some of this stuff you guys are seeing for the first time, but many of them have progress in double digit percentage.Woah dude, nice niiiiice Rha's.
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2936/gothamknights.png)
Working together is nice.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 16, 2009, 04:51:39 PM
Post by: Kojunho on August 16, 2009, 05:24:49 PM
--edit--
Kagami was the name I was looking for ^_^
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on August 16, 2009, 05:28:17 PM
Yamazaki Legs and Some obscure Samurai shodown char. His name's on the tip of my tongue but I can't seem to remember. He's got red hair is all I really know and his cape is black.KAGAMI!
Post by: A New Challenger on August 16, 2009, 06:14:18 PM
The bases work with their original moves as well - Yamazaki has great posturing and some dominating kicks, while Kagami has all sorts of boss-level "hold you up and run the blade through your stomach" kinds of fun. It's really a matter of parts and editing with little else, so I hope one or many of you adopt him.
More on Kagami here - note that his story fits Ra's pretty well, coincidentally:
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/kagami.html (http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/kagami.html)
Post by: catbat74 on August 16, 2009, 06:21:47 PM
Post by: Shockdingo on August 16, 2009, 06:51:21 PM
who's the guy in the purple with the visor? Firefly :-??That would be Prometheus. :)
Post by: DoktorAvidan on August 16, 2009, 07:37:39 PM
Everything looks very lovely. :D
Post by: TomBewley on August 16, 2009, 07:55:33 PM
May I ask which of these characters is just an initial design and has no one working on them? I am particularly interested in Cassandra and she doesn't seem to difficult to edit.
Post by: catbat74 on August 16, 2009, 08:44:36 PM
Post by: Nestor on August 16, 2009, 08:57:04 PM
The design of Ra's and Prometheus in the sprites looks very good, keep the good work guys :thumbsup:.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on August 16, 2009, 10:10:51 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 16, 2009, 10:36:11 PM
Post by: A New Challenger on August 17, 2009, 01:31:55 AM
Cassandra is in that boat too - but I'd wait a few days on that one. We're trying to get permission from Mambojambo to update the sprites from his unreleased Batgirl and merge the two designs as a head start on her.
As a matter of fact, wouldn't hurt to list what's what:
- Riddler (Coldpyro)
- Scarecrow (Turbanator/Batzarro)
- Bane (Batzarro)
- Prometheus (The Unlimited)
- Jason Todd (The Unlimited)
- Ra's al Ghul [OPEN WIP] < Bases: CvS Yamazaki, LB2 Kagami >
- Joker (The Unlimited + guest)
- Batgirl [OPEN WIP] < Bases: MvC2 Marrow, SFZ3 Cammy >
- Batman (The Unlimited)
- Robin (The Unlimited + guest)
- Catwoman (The Unlimited)
- Nightwing (The Unlimited)
- Two-Face (Infinity)
- Slade (The Unlimited)
- Lady Shiva [OPEN WIP] < Bases: MM Crane >
- Killer Croc [OPEN WIP] < Bases: MM Ghost Kick, SFZ3 Sagat >
- Poison Ivy (Dead-X)
I also mistakenly showed an old sprite of Catwoman's - she's not one of mine at the moment - here's her updated look:
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4295/selenamerge2.png)
Interestingly, there are a few more characters we have progress on or permission for from friends that would do well in a Gotham full game, but some things are better left to surprise. Also note this wouldn't be meant to absorb Dark Knight Chronicles IN ANY WAY... I'm waiting for word on Acey about something collaborative on the side, more on that later.
Any of you are serious about taking on any of the open WIPs, or even helping on a few of ours, let me know. I have ideas for the unused characters and submission guidelines for the closed ones. Glad the little poster got a positive reception.
Post by: HQ on August 17, 2009, 07:15:50 AM
Post by: A New Challenger on August 17, 2009, 08:48:59 AM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 17, 2009, 01:37:27 PM
Post by: Shockdingo on August 17, 2009, 04:22:05 PM
Post by: A New Challenger on August 17, 2009, 10:10:09 PM
Post Merge: August 18, 2009, 12:45:26 AM
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1418/freeze.png)
Out of all the suggestions, this guy has the most potential. There's no easy way to sprite Clayface, and Mad Hatter would be a really stupid character for a fighting game, c'mon.
So, the iceman cometh. Open design, Cable/Ironman bases.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 18, 2009, 01:10:29 AM
That Dr HellSpawn guy was doing a pretty good job with Clayface . He even made him look like the animated series .
C'mon man , Mad hatter would be great . He could have a bunch of robotic rabbits for a hyper ...lol
I'm not liking Mr Freeze's head . The bubble should look clearer in my opinion . Why is his one arm exposed & frozen . have I missed some issues or something ?
Post by: Kojunho on August 18, 2009, 01:15:51 AM
Post by: Z999 on August 18, 2009, 05:19:20 AM
But the rest of the possible roster is looking very nice, would certainly like to see most of these coming out. My favourite being Prometheus, really like his design.
Post by: A New Challenger on August 18, 2009, 07:25:07 AM
I also felt doing a full Iron Man body would look lazy as hell, so why not give him his freeze gun? Helmet was originally clear-through, but it looks cheap, and makes no sense - a frozen body inside a coolant suit would fog over the glass. Here's the pre-edit versus the spruced-up one:
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/521/freeze0.png) <----> (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6756/freezel.png) <----> (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9571/freeze2.png)
Nobody wants to pick up this design, I'll do another one. Let me know.
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 18, 2009, 07:39:17 AM
Post by: yosifun on August 18, 2009, 09:53:49 AM
Think it's the normal looking arm that's throwing everyone offAs for this, I would suggest making both arms exposed (like the freeze gun arm), this way it won't look so weird.
Also, maybe try to give the freeze gun a really original look like here:
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/12503/322668-168281-mr-freeze_super.gif)
* Make the gun a bit bigger, like in the picture,
* Add a cable that goes to his back (sprites can be taken from Omega Red).
* Adding those gloves to the arms would be cool too.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 18, 2009, 11:34:48 AM
But if you are going with your theory about the " frosty " containment unit . You have a good point , & the frosty mist could be animated . Which would make a really cool effect ( no pun intended )
But if you are going with that same theory . Mr Freezes entire body has to be in that unit . So it would make no sense for him to have his arm or arms exposed . I don't really like the MK Sub Zero arm technique .
Post by: A New Challenger on August 18, 2009, 11:58:17 AM
I'm digging this last shot. Pretty sure this one is as good as he's gonna look without making the bases something insane like completely drawing over SFZ Guy. The point is to make this a WIP anyone can pick up, after all.
Freeze gun is based on TAS, and an easy edit from Cable's - I don't care for it looking like a futuristic Liefeld rifle anyway. Took some cues on the head from an old Batzarro edit. Otherwise he's all Iron Man and Colossus... and I can rest easy the next few days.
Heading to the beach, not gonna be taking the laptop, so I wanted to get this design nailed down tonight.
Post by: Kojunho on August 18, 2009, 12:18:35 PM
Yeah I know I'm insane. Don't rub it in lol.
Pretty sure this one is as good as he's gonna look without making the bases something insane like completely drawing over SFZ Guy.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 18, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
Post by: A New Challenger on August 18, 2009, 12:30:01 PM
Post by: Spidermew on August 18, 2009, 01:18:10 PM
Post by: Irockz on August 18, 2009, 01:21:36 PM
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/0/05/Robin_tv_01.jpg)
Post by: ColdPyro on August 18, 2009, 02:00:55 PM
thats what i had planned for freeze it uses cable with icemans legs might switch out the arms not sure.
and here was my 1st try at him using iron man
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/mrfreezewo.png)
and urien didnt look right
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/freeeze-1.png)
Post by: A New Challenger on August 18, 2009, 03:00:41 PM
Coldpyro - Those are interesting... they're pretty accurate to TAS, but I still don't think that version translates well to Capcom style. In keeping the shading close to DCAU on yours, he'd stick out amongst the other game characters.
Post by: Acey on August 18, 2009, 03:05:39 PM
Post by: L@nce Uppercut on August 18, 2009, 03:21:35 PM
Post by: Irockz on August 18, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on August 18, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
it should at least be an alternate colour scheme. I really want to play in that suit, and...but the robin on the front page is damian wayne not that other guy from the TV show
i think his name is DickGrayson
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 18, 2009, 05:12:11 PM
Who the heck is that?
All I know is Grayson, Todd, and Tim drake.
Post by: Kojunho on August 18, 2009, 05:14:05 PM
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 18, 2009, 05:16:19 PM
That guy. He's robin now? what happened to drake?
Post by: amarillo002 on August 18, 2009, 06:18:00 PM
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 18, 2009, 07:10:56 PM
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8108/freeze5a.png) (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3785/freeze5b.png)Digging this design. The legs might be a little too long, by a pixel or two. The thickness looks fine to me. Doesn't seem to hard to work with really, hope someone takes up this look. :)
I'm digging this last shot. Pretty sure this one is as good as he's gonna look without making the bases something insane like completely drawing over SFZ Guy. The point is to make this a WIP anyone can pick up, after all.
Freeze gun is based on TAS, and an easy edit from Cable's - I don't care for it looking like a futuristic Liefeld rifle anyway. Took some cues on the head from an old Batzarro edit. Otherwise he's all Iron Man and Colossus... and I can rest easy the next few days.
Heading to the beach, not gonna be taking the laptop, so I wanted to get this design nailed down tonight.
Now, someone should try Creeper next. ;D
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on August 18, 2009, 08:14:10 PM
Digging this design. The legs might be a little too long, by a pixel or two. The thickness looks fine to me. Doesn't seem to hard to work with really, hope someone takes up this look. :)the best base i can think for him fei-long spidrman frankensprite
Now, someone should try Creeper next. ;D
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 18, 2009, 08:50:12 PM
then what did JASON TODD become?
Post by: Kojunho on August 18, 2009, 08:58:32 PM
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 18, 2009, 09:02:06 PM
Daimian -> Robin->Red robin -> red hood?
Night wing -> Batman.
Meh. I still like Drake as robin.....
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on August 18, 2009, 09:42:41 PM
sooo....and then theres stephnie brown as robin
Daimian -> Robin->Red robin -> red hood?
Night wing -> Batman.
Meh. I still like Drake as robin.....
Post by: ColdPyro on August 18, 2009, 11:00:28 PM
i did an edit of anc's im a big fan of the animated series freeze too me thats his most iconic look the only thing that didnt come out right was the shading on his armor torso piece it would look good if it was done like how scruffys ultron is shaded
the thing about his other looks is that most of them look like the arnold adaptation of freeze and for some reason i really didnt care for how they made him look when freeze isnt really all that big
Post by: HQ on August 18, 2009, 11:26:20 PM
inspired by this pics http://www.markseviltwin.com/tags/mr-freeze (http://www.markseviltwin.com/tags/mr-freeze) http://duss005.deviantart.com/art/welcome-to-gotham-city-92297015 (http://duss005.deviantart.com/art/welcome-to-gotham-city-92297015)
UPPERBODY - Captain Commando MVC
LEGS - Guile MVC
(Knee Pads & some Arm Editing Tips - Jin MVC)
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 18, 2009, 11:28:21 PM
Post by: Intermission on August 19, 2009, 07:58:36 AM
Now, someone should try Creeper next. ;D
(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1451/88969166.gif) (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
:)
Post by: Alexziq on August 19, 2009, 09:30:55 AM
but.... she's Dead.... right? right?
No Batman set that up as a way to harden Tim. The rumor is she will be the new Batgirl
Post by: L@nce Uppercut on August 19, 2009, 12:22:54 PM
Post by: Epic Win Man on August 19, 2009, 05:18:26 PM
No Batman set that up as a way to harden Tim. The rumor is she will be the new BatgirlWhat? Dr. Thompkins faked her death to protect her.
also:
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Post by: .Batzarro. on August 19, 2009, 10:07:35 PM
(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1451/88969166.gif) (http://www.imagehosting.com/)That is an awesome looking Creeper. Wanting to know as well about the hair though.
:)
Post by: Spidermew on August 19, 2009, 10:18:50 PM
Post by: L@nce Uppercut on August 19, 2009, 10:21:20 PM
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 19, 2009, 10:26:29 PM
Post by: Intermission on August 20, 2009, 04:40:24 AM
his fur is from Sabre ...
Anyway we can use monkey boy from martial master for his hair
Post by: A New Challenger on August 21, 2009, 01:21:29 AM
Our Robin is Tim Drake. The default colors are the OYL red and black, but we've smart paletted him to have his old Young Justice outfit too. Damian Wayne is a little prick who borders on being Morrison's Gary Stu, and he's ten years old. We won't be making him as a character. We're also not doing TTG! Robin, because the cartoon - while fun - was ridiculous Americanime. The Robin there was d*** Grayson with Tim Drake's body, which also screws up a game that would also theoretically feature Tim!Robin and d***!Nightwing. It wouldn't fit anywhere other than a Teen Titans Go! full game, alongside ipod Cyborg and magical girl Starfire. Feel free to start one up, I guess. Not our bag.
Int, that's an awesome Jack Ryder. How would he fight?
Post by: Spidermew on August 21, 2009, 08:31:50 AM
Post by: Alexziq on August 21, 2009, 09:03:25 AM
Coldpyro, that's not a bad take on freeze, although yeah the torso would have to be redone. I prefer the shot I did, since it's alot more unique than Cable basewise and works with his comic appearance as well, but once again - why not both? Alexziq's project has a heavy TAS design influence, right?
Our Robin is Tim Drake. The default colors are the OYL red and black, but we've smart paletted him to have his old Young Justice outfit too. Damian Wayne is a little prick who borders on being Morrison's Gary Stu, and he's ten years old. We won't be making him as a character. We're also not doing TTG! Robin, because the cartoon - while fun - was ridiculous Americanime. The Robin there was d*** Grayson with Tim Drake's body, which also screws up a game that would also theoretically feature Tim!Robin and d***!Nightwing. It wouldn't fit anywhere other than a Teen Titans Go! full game, alongside ipod Cyborg and magical girl Starfire. Feel free to start one up, I guess. Not our bag.
Int, that's an awesome Jack Ryder. How would he fight?
Well
A. Jack Ryder was connected to Batman through the Animated Series episode, which is probably why most people associate him with Batman.
B. In the comics Jack Ryder is a current member of Batman, and the Outsiders so he connects that way as well.
While I dont completely agree with you on Damian (I think Morrison is brilliant, Invisibles is beyond sharp) You may want to clarify the term "gary stu". That, and "mary sue" aren't common references that people outside the geek community are familiar with.
Also the Legends project is not mine persay, all though it does seem that way at present. I was actually approached by Spookey, and SuperJoker to work on it. Spiderbat, Jmaxximus, and I are just Batman/DC fans working on charcters for the CVG Batman Legends project. I just happen to have the most time to administrate it I guess. (Sorry not to get off topic, I just wanted to clarify that to avoid confusion) I don't want to come off as a ringleader of a competing project, because that has never been the intent.
Also our Mr Freeze is based on the Batman Beyond Mr Freeze so it is quite differant from the animated series version "Cold Pyro" displayed earlier. His design looks less like Spiderbats in my opinion.
Post by: A New Challenger on August 21, 2009, 10:02:55 AM
As far as Grant Morrison, he's a great writer (Arkham Asylum and Doom Patrol for great win), but - to use less geeky terms - Damian is a total 'pet character.' My beef is really only with Morrison's coddling of him.
Beyond Freeze has a killer design; always loved the skullish black face in the misted up dome. It'll be cool to see what you guys do with him.
Post by: L@nce Uppercut on August 21, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Post by: Shockdingo on August 21, 2009, 12:27:01 PM
Post by: volzzilla on August 21, 2009, 02:17:25 PM
Post by: Intermission on August 21, 2009, 03:03:00 PM
Post by: Alexziq on August 21, 2009, 04:18:31 PM
might get a partial vision of creeper as twinimage is making nightcreeper as part of the SGM amalgam project.
Last I heard Twin Image is inactive, so it might be a while
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on August 22, 2009, 09:31:06 AM
what l@nce and dingo say about Creeper is my vision of this character...but don't forget my edit is just a suggestion, i don't know and like this guy so much so i'll not take as a future WIP :P i have a bad dead boy to take care in my future :PWHAT? :o
Post by: DukeNukem 2417 on August 22, 2009, 10:00:11 AM
JASON TODD! HE'S WORKING ON JASON TODD! XD||
Took me .5 seconds to figure that one out. Bad dead boy....huh. Jason Todd stole the wheels off the Batmobile, became the new Red Hood after he came back from the dead....that bad enough for anyone?
Post by: Alexziq on August 23, 2009, 04:26:07 PM
Hmm.....bad dead boy.......
JASON TODD! HE'S WORKING ON JASON TODD! XD||
Took me .5 seconds to figure that one out. Bad dead boy....huh. Jason Todd stole the wheels off the Batmobile, became the new Red Hood after he came back from the dead....that bad enough for anyone?
Jason's bad all right, a real bad character :D
Afterall it was the fans that voted him dead =D>
Post by: Hardy on August 24, 2009, 09:27:55 PM
Post by: JeagerEX on September 06, 2009, 05:04:47 PM
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2936/gothamknights.png)Why Catwoman is on Batman's side?
Post by: Alexziq on September 06, 2009, 06:26:49 PM
Why Catwoman is on Batman's side?
Catwoman hasnt been villian in years. She's a bit of an Anti-Hero these days but not a villian.
Post by: MirageAtoli on September 13, 2009, 05:11:38 PM
Post by: TomBewley on September 13, 2009, 06:55:53 PM
Who is to the artist's right of Deathstroke?
Lady Shiva I believe, Mother of Cassandra Cain (Batgirl) and an assassin
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Shivaoyl.PNG)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Shiva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Shiva)
Post by: A New Challenger on September 24, 2009, 05:36:36 PM
Post by: TomBewley on September 24, 2009, 05:58:54 PM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9932/clayface2.png)
Gorgeous. It really captures the look of Clayface but with your own twist on the design which really brings him to life. Clayface seems like such a hard character to sprite due to the nature of his body
Who are the bases? I think I recognize them but I can't remember the names of them (Are those Pyron's legs?)
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 24, 2009, 06:05:37 PM
Post by: Intermission on September 25, 2009, 05:15:46 AM
Post by: HQ on September 25, 2009, 05:36:47 AM
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1083/asura.png)
ripped by wil.li.an
Post by: A New Challenger on September 25, 2009, 06:58:34 AM
Either way, the reason I posted him was because he's another quick edit that could be a much easier WIP than anyone thought. The clay look is easy to do with palette blending and then a few blotch additions / removals, and he only has 2 bases. Annie only has 1, though she'd only figure into an intro and a hyper.
Pyron was the correct bottom, and if you've seen Pyron's kicks - they're supposed to look like flame but they're very thick and chunky - they'd be great as gooey, flowing clay.
Post Merge: September 25, 2009, 11:16:16 AM
Have to say I completely disagree about drawoever being the best option here. In a perfect world, Warner would take the job and manage to effectivley merge the styles of his Thing and Elastigirl. All the same, this was done as one of those simple concepts that could get him made by someone less uber.
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6206/bases.png)
Plus - the TAS Clayface they're using for Legends is basically Juggs drawn over, and while it looks great in their TAS themed roster, it certainly doesn't mesh with Capcom-styled designs. Not to mention the fact that while Juggs isn't by any means a common base, his sprite is really, really distinct.
All the same, the head was the last thing I did and was quite rushed - really only got the mouth right.
Here's my shot at a fix - also tweaked some little bits and added mass to his waist and shoulders, both very easy to do:
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/873/clayface3.png)
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 25, 2009, 03:24:28 PM
So, I grabbed my figure of him (such an amazing figure, the most recent one I believe) and tried mixing that with a more TAS feel. So, here's my newest shot at him, and if I ever took him up, he'd be just like this. Maybe with just one less shade as he might not really need it and the black outline was on purpose.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/GonnaBurnInMyLight/Sprites/Clayface03.png)
Upper body just used Jugg's outline and the legs are from scratch. Love how messy you can make Clayface look and still look good. Though, for new comers, your design is the way to go. Didn't notice before, but you really did capture the clay aspect that looks great.
Another design I'm throwing into the ring that someone could take up.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/GonnaBurnInMyLight/Sprites/SolomonGrundy04.png)
Made from all T. Hawk in this sprite. However, the best way to probably go with him would be T. Hawk's body/legs/head, Zangief's arms/boots, and/or Victor's arms/head. If you wanted to go the easier of the way though, could just be all Zangief/T. Hawk. Couldn't just be all T. Hawk though because he has all chops for punches and his arm posture just wouldn't really work for Grundy for the most part. His boots aren't so great either, so that' another minor reason.
Anyways, in this prototype sprite I made of him, his vest part could be made longer and some added detail to look more like a jacket. The hair/boots were completely redrawn as well. Can check out another way too hard to WIP sprite of him in my sprites thread (will be up in a few mins). :)
Post by: Bowasiel on September 25, 2009, 04:38:12 PM
taros would be a fine base i think....not sure which moves he has but justing from this sprite it might fitWOW What game is that?
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1083/asura.png)
ripped by wil.li.an
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on September 25, 2009, 06:51:31 PM
WOW What game is that?Asura Blade and Asura Buster
Post by: A New Challenger on September 25, 2009, 11:31:54 PM
Zarro - that new one does look killer, and much more eerie / sinister than mine. The dark lines and general palette selection really work, as does the Juggernaut top - originally attempted something similar, but by the time I had removed the metal shading and ring cuts into his arms, it was deemed too much of a hassle. Not as sure about the legs, as they've got kind of a Megaman thickness and I'm a fan of the big top / small legs look since it makes him seem more inhuman to me. Still a fantastic edit.
I did once consider MMPF Yellow Devil as a possible base, which would look something like yours but starting from a cleaner structure... maybe there's something to that?
Going by the comics, he's had a lot of looks, so I'd say that they're both pretty viable. Mine's a bit simpler at the cost of menace, while yours is a bit more detailed at the cost of workload. Maybe a reconstitution super, where mine turns into a hyperarmored version of yours after reabsorbing Annie? Yours looks solidified where mine looks about to melt, so it makes a bit of sense. Plus with some mutual palette tweaking the designs are compatible --
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3270/clayface4.png)
Post Merge: September 26, 2009, 12:08:55 AM
Also dig how that Grundy came out - the head really works in a way that I couldn't pin down. Not sure the body has the proper girth, but T.Hawk is a good base idea. Maybe that with Bigger arms (Martial Masters' Monk?) and Victor's boots?
Post by: JeagerEX on September 26, 2009, 01:38:07 AM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9932/clayface2.png)Who's that girl in the left?
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 26, 2009, 01:56:30 AM
Zarro - that new one does look killer, and much more eerie / sinister than mine. The dark lines and general palette selection really work, as does the Juggernaut top - originally attempted something similar, but by the time I had removed the metal shading and ring cuts into his arms, it was deemed too much of a hassle. Not as sure about the legs, as they've got kind of a Megaman thickness and I'm a fan of the big top / small legs look since it makes him seem more inhuman to me. Still a fantastic edit.Thanks. The way I went about editing Juggs was to just use the outline of mostly his outer parts. Taking his helmet and eyes/mouth lines as well. After that, I erased all other detail with ease. So, that's not really so hard as much as having to fill all that space is.
I did once consider MMPF Yellow Devil as a possible base, which would look something like yours but starting from a cleaner structure... maybe there's something to that?
Going by the comics, he's had a lot of looks, so I'd say that they're both pretty viable. Mine's a bit simpler at the cost of menace, while yours is a bit more detailed at the cost of workload. Maybe a reconstitution super, where mine turns into a hyperarmored version of yours after reabsorbing Annie? Yours looks solidified where mine looks about to melt, so it makes a bit of sense. Plus with some mutual palette tweaking the designs are compatible --
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3270/clayface4.png)
I think using Yellow Devil would be good as well, but might be around the same result as the Clayface I put together. Would be big upper body with small legs. Generally, I don't like that either, but for Matt here, I do like it. Was one of the aspects I took from TAS, though I guess I could try to make his legs bigger and see how that works. They were from scratch and no hard task either way. Either way, would be great to take some of Devil's effects from when he tears himself down and rebuilds himself.
The hyper idea does sound pretty good. Though, for him, I'd actually kinda like to see Annie scared in the BG wherever he fights. Like she has to follow him around. Hell, maybe even show her happy if Matt loses.
If nothing else though, there was Basil and Matt who had the most similar designs of all the Clayfaces, so these could simply be each one of those guys.
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Also dig how that Grundy came out - the head really works in a way that I couldn't pin down. Not sure the body has the proper girth, but T.Hawk is a good base idea. Maybe that with Bigger arms (Martial Masters' Monk?) and Victor's boots?Yea, I think for the most part T. Hawk does work but he definitely does need some pieces from others to make it great. So, I'll give a shot at another edit with two different sets of arms and boots. Guess we'll see what mix works best.?
Post by: Alexziq on September 26, 2009, 10:21:05 AM
T-Hawk seems like a good base for Grundy. Grundy has only been built like the Hulk in recent years, and still really depends on the artist. Many times artists still draw a classic look to Grundy. T-Hawk is a much fresher base too. Hulk parts are so over used so it's nice to see a differant base for Grundy.
Post by: L@nce Uppercut on September 27, 2009, 12:45:54 AM
The discussion over Clayface is deep, but since this has been done to bait any would be creator to take up the character, having two styles to choose from doesn't hurt. I'd take either of those and if whoever took on the idea of using both designs for different conditions that would be excellent as well.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on September 28, 2009, 01:14:58 PM
I think I seen it at the old DC universe forum. It was incredible whoever made it.
Post by: L@nce Uppercut on September 29, 2009, 01:33:56 PM
I'm waiting for your sprite L@nce. Didn't you used to have a Clayface sprite in one of your sigs? Or do I have you confused with somone else?
I think I seen it at the old DC universe forum. It was incredible whoever made it.
I think you ot me confused with someone else. But I vaguly remember a Clayface signature.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on September 29, 2009, 03:31:59 PM
I think you ot me confused with someone else. But I vaguly remember a Clayface signature.
Ok , I just remembered it being a real good edit & it looked similar to your sprite style. My bad, It must have been someone else, though.
Post by: L@nce Uppercut on September 30, 2009, 10:14:50 PM
Of course, it's strange to think I actually have a style... ;D
Post by: .Batzarro. on October 01, 2009, 06:21:40 AM
Aside from that, here's another take at a Grundy design that's WIPable.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/GonnaBurnInMyLight/Sprites/SolomonGrundy05.png)
Base is T. Hawk again but with Zangief's arms/boots. I think using Monk's arms would be a little too big, but I could try another design using Victor's arms/boots this time around.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on October 01, 2009, 01:43:48 PM
Anyway they new grundy looks good. But I think the arms look too big.
Post by: DrHellSpawn on October 02, 2009, 05:11:32 PM
Post by: A New Challenger on October 02, 2009, 08:26:33 PM
@ DocHellspawn - You're going for a TAS-straight design, and it looks great. We just went for different ways to make Clay's design kinda Capcom-y. Don't down your work - but thanks for noticing ours.
Post by: ilovenatalie on October 02, 2009, 11:35:53 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/GonnaBurnInMyLight/Sprites/SolomonGrundy05.png)(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9343/sgrundy02.png) Using Victors arms
Post by: .Batzarro. on October 03, 2009, 12:10:01 AM
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9343/sgrundy02.png) Using Victors armsCould still use a little work, looks a little too much like T. Hawk. ;*))
Yea, I'm thinking the T. Hawk/Victor mix will work best as they're both very underused bases. So, that alone will make him stand out. I'll be trying an edit of that right now along with something else as well.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on October 03, 2009, 12:27:13 AM
you guys just ruined my self esteem! :o nice work on clayface, both of you!
As a huge fan of Batman TAS series, even more so than the any of the comics. I personally like your Clayface the best :thumbsup:
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9343/sgrundy02.png) Using Victors arms
I still think Victor's arms aren't proportioned. Isn't the one arm drastically bigger than the other ?
Post by: Shockdingo on October 03, 2009, 12:36:27 AM
Post by: .Batzarro. on October 03, 2009, 07:34:06 AM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/GonnaBurnInMyLight/Sprites/SolomonGrundy06.png)
I still think Victor's arms aren't proportioned. Isn't the one arm drastically bigger than the other ?The arm with the sleeve is bigger because they made the coat thick. Aside from that, I've been trying to give him arms a bit larger then normal.
While Victor is a great under utilized base, there is a potential problem; his arms tend to alter drastically in size from each of his basics as well as specials, it may lead to more work than you'd like, though it is worth a look.Yea, I didn't know his limbs change so dramatically in most moves. I thought it was only a few. The T. Hawk/Victor mix is the best looking of all the mixes so far though. After seeing how well this one looks, not sure I'll be real happy with the Zangief mix anymore.
Post by: A New Challenger on October 03, 2009, 08:57:38 AM
Otherwise, that design is f**k*** killer, man. Good stuff.
Post by: Shockdingo on October 03, 2009, 11:52:23 AM
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