Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 18, 2009, 05:32:13 AM
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/ (http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/)
will probably be another big boss chapter.
Post by: Codyman155 on May 18, 2009, 08:55:36 AM
Post by: The Heartbreak Kid on May 18, 2009, 10:15:10 AM
Ninja Raiden FTW! :w00t:
Post by: KPT25 on May 18, 2009, 12:44:02 PM
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on May 19, 2009, 05:32:37 AM
Obviously Merryl settled down with Johnny which was still retarded.
To be honest, for me... No Snake, no buy.
Edit: Also that would make a great mugen stage.
Post by: Gaijin on May 19, 2009, 11:53:29 AM
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 19, 2009, 12:23:10 PM
i heard the Kojima was threatened to be killed if he didnt make another one by a random person. is it true? it happens alotthey planned for mgs 5 after releasing 4 but they never gave much info about it except for the raiden TGS poster.
rumors say that they will probably announce an x360 version of mgs4 as well as 5 or another x360 exclusive mgs...i don't think that x360 is getting 4 myself but maybe a 4 substance is more likely if that even happens.
i want a new big boss game myself, mgs = snake, and big boss is just the same as snake, personally i'm not fond of raiden, and how they stressed the idea of raiden being a bigger cool than snake is never really worked for me (even tho they did try hard by making raided kill like 25 metal gears in mgs 2 and how he kills the gekos easily in mgs 4 while making snake struggle against a single metal gear or geko).
Post by: xPreatorianx on May 19, 2009, 12:30:50 PM
Post by: b.easy on May 19, 2009, 12:37:57 PM
Plus, Raiden = storm in japanese and that's exactly what the page shows.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 19, 2009, 01:02:22 PM
I think it's gonna be about Raiden during the years between MGS2 and MGS4. There's alot of gaps in the story, like how he rescued Sunny and how he got all that ninja stuff.yeah it still could be a raiden game since mgs3 was bigboss's and mgs4 was snake's, i hope it's not a raiden game tho.
Plus, Raiden = storm in japanese and that's exactly what the page shows.
Post by: The Heartbreak Kid on May 19, 2009, 02:51:32 PM
I don't see this having anything to do with Raiden actually, I mean the way MGS4 ended with Raiden (I'm gunna be a good daddy and husband! YAY ME! ^_^)
Obviously Merryl settled down with Johnny which was still retarded.
To be honest, for me... No Snake, no buy.
Edit: Also that would make a great mugen stage.
I was thinking more of a backstory between MGS2 and MGS4..
Kind of like how Chain of Memories tied KH and KH2 together.
Post by: Nilakantha on May 19, 2009, 03:50:20 PM
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on May 20, 2009, 03:35:36 AM
I don't understand all the Raiden hate, I always thought he was a nice character, so I'm all for a Raiden game.Well you see the thing is, Snake is an iconic character.
He's like the Japanese version of Batman.
Now imagine a game that was about Batman, you're 20% through the game, and all of a sudden you've been forced to switched to play as Robin which would be a look and soundalike of the Robin from those Joel Schumacher films.
Then you'd understand how the MGS fans felt when Snake was replaced in the remainder of MGS2.
Although MGS5 might be about Raiden because
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPgDIWxgOYA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPgDIWxgOYA#)
^Which was mostly a Terminator parody
lol T-800 first person reference at 2:08
Post by: Nilakantha on May 20, 2009, 09:46:45 AM
Post by: Izanagi on May 20, 2009, 10:56:30 AM
Uh..I am a MGS fan and I have no problem switching main characters. I mean in Rockman X4 Zero takes the lead. While everyone was whining about Raiden's switch in Metal Gear Solid 2, I was enjoying the game and having fun. Plus Kojima likes Raiden better than Snakes, just like Inafune likes Zero better than X.
Playing as Raiden also helped set up the true bad @$$-ness that is Snake now lol.
Post by: AceWonder20 on May 20, 2009, 08:26:57 PM
Yeah.
No Snake, no buy.
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on May 20, 2009, 08:55:43 PM
Uh..I am a MGS fan and I have no problem switching main characters. I mean in Rockman X4 Zero takes the lead. While everyone was whining about Raiden's switch in Metal Gear Solid 2, I was enjoying the game and having fun. Plus Kojima likes Raiden better than Snakes, just like Inafune likes Zero better than X.From what I heard, he only made Raiden to get fangirls to start playing the game because girls didn't want to play as a hardcore cool like Snake, + he poked so much fun @ Raiden in that parody... it's very hard to believe that he actually likes Raiden more. I think after 4 it should have just ended.
Metal Gear has been around for like 22 years. It's time to end it before things get out of hand... even though they already got out of hand with Meryl getting hitched with the comedy relief character, and Snake giving in a early retirement.
Post by: Nilakantha on May 20, 2009, 09:05:20 PM
From what I heard, he only made Raiden to get fangirls to start playing the game because girls didn't want to play as a hardcore cool like Snake, + he poked so much fun @ Raiden in that parody... it's very hard to believe that he actually likes Raiden more. I think after 4 it should have just ended.
Metal Gear has been around for like 22 years. It's time to end it before things get out of hand... even though they already got out of hand with Meryl getting hitched with the comedy relief character, and Snake giving in a early retirement.
Weird, why would Kojima care so deeply for a parody character? So Kojima should end the series over one character? It's strange because in Japan Raiden is one of the favorites among male MGS gamers. Oh well.
Post by: Yung Kratos on May 21, 2009, 04:52:49 PM
Post by: ssjcage on May 21, 2009, 07:09:41 PM
But anyway, I think that Raiden received a lot of bad reviews for one reason: he wasn't Snake, he was exactly the same as MGS2 Snake, ability-wise, but the fact that he was a bit more "human" than Snake prompted ill will. Then, in MGS4, Raiden became the ninja character (every MGS game has a ninja-like character). Which made him cooler than Snake for the moment. But I always liked Raiden, because I saw Snake as a walking gun, but was different, yet the same. Anyway, if MGS5 is about Raiden,
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Post by: Violent Ken Masters on May 21, 2009, 09:09:53 PM
1. High heels... wtf.
2. "I'm not afraid of death"...emo.....
3. He kind of had a few emo fits through out the game, the one that bothered me the most was at the end where he couldn't even recognize his own son.... which looks exactly like him!
Although I think after he found out everything his emo-ness was cured... I hope so. ..and he needs new boots. Not high heels.
Guess who's back.
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l284/sephirose/mgs5bigboss-1.png)
So yeah, no Raiden. :P
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 28, 2009, 10:54:47 AM
i'm down for gray fox even if they made him look like raiden.
said to take place 7 years after mgs4, it's getting really inserting tho
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8218/20090527kojimateaserbig.jpg)
Post by: Yung Kratos on May 28, 2009, 12:37:36 PM
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on May 28, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
it's said to be the perfect clone of big boss
Solidus Snake.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 28, 2009, 03:53:21 PM
Had I the money I'd get a MGS5 provided it was a prequel to 4. I have no real qualms with Raiden, so I don't mind him...Solidus is dead, he was the boss of mgs2.
Solidus Snake.
i never though their was a connection between gray fox and raiden, except for the ninja stuff and sword play that is.
Post by: Gaijin on May 28, 2009, 03:58:01 PM
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on May 28, 2009, 04:10:46 PM
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 28, 2009, 05:05:10 PM
I don't know where the whole "7 years after MGS4" thing but the series having had it's plot end I doubt Hideo would pull a new Snake out of his as-ohwaitnocursing-arse. I think this would be a prequel, and Solidus was the "perfect clone".there was no perfect clone, there was only the closer clone and that was solid snake not solidus, this one from the pic appears younger than solidus as well.
there were 8 clones, all of em died except 3 (solid, liquid and solidus) so he could bring more clones into action.
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on May 28, 2009, 05:53:16 PM
And I may have not played MGS4, but I've seen a lot of footage of it, including the fact, at the very least, Solidus was more closer of a clone genetically to Big Boss.
Besides, Solidus was a commander (or something to that extent), as well as Big Boss in the later stages of his life. Don't know how good of a fighter he was without his suit, but he may have had a worse case of what Solid went through.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 28, 2009, 06:12:32 PM
If the next game is indeed a prequel, then why not have a younger Solidus?solidus did train radien and all but he was old when he lost his eye in mgs2, still it's a known fact that snake was the closest clone and not solidus, the new game might might play in 2 time periods making you play old and new chapters, so it's still might involve big boss, raiden and gray fox.
And I may have not played MGS4, but I've seen a lot of footage of it, including the fact, at the very least, Solidus was more closer of a clone genetically to Big Boss.
Besides, Solidus was a commander (or something to that extent), as well as Big Boss in the later stages of his life. Don't know how good of a fighter he was without his suit, but he may have had a worse case of what Solid went through.
there was a raiden look alike in mgs3 as well but i don't remember his name.
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on May 28, 2009, 06:19:47 PM
And I've heard differently about the clone thing. I've heard Solidus was, genetically, the best clone of Big Boss.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 28, 2009, 07:15:58 PM
I know he lost his eye in MGS2, but you know how screwy Hideo is.i haven't played 4 yet myself but i do know that kojima stories can be very messed up at aimes with things appearing out no where.
And I've heard differently about the clone thing. I've heard Solidus was, genetically, the best clone of Big Boss.
i do know hat solidus was a balanced clone like some sort of a solid liquid combination, maybe that explains his extra accelerated aging cus he was already old in mgs2 while snake was much younger, that actually makes more sense regarding solidus being a closer clone considering the aging factor.
(please no mgs4 spoilers ppl)
Post by: Yung Kratos on May 28, 2009, 07:19:56 PM
The raiden lookalike was Raikov
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on May 28, 2009, 08:00:38 PM
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on May 28, 2009, 08:02:07 PM
Didnt they say in mgs 1 that liquid was the perfect clone and solidus was supposed to be like an enhanced clone and the inferior of the 3 is solidyeah liquid got the better genes i think.
The raiden lookalike was Raikov
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on May 29, 2009, 01:17:27 AM
Please make another MGS!! ;D
Post by: Yung Kratos on May 29, 2009, 01:40:30 AM
No, I don't recall any mention of Liquid being the superior clone. Even the MGS1 ending basically said, if I remember correctly, that Solidus was the better clone.If u got the right ending there was a conversation between ocelot and solidus stating that the perfect one lost the battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyau8OSJ8Hg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyau8OSJ8Hg#)
start listening @ 6:33 it says that hes well balanced in the video also probably implying that hes supposed to be like inbetween the two but he also stated in mgs 2 that he was enhanced with more of big boss's leadership genes because hes supposed to be more of a field commander enhancing his charisma which is why he gained the presidency so easy
oh and hideo isnt conceited enough about his franchise
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on May 29, 2009, 01:58:30 AM
i thought it was big boss too but it turned out that this is not big boss, it's said to be the perfect clone of big boss or the real son of big boss which means that he is entirely a new snake not mentioned before yet it's said that he played a rule in the classic mgs games, and mgs4, raiden is still might be the main character in the upcoming game but the one from this pic isn't raiden as well (it's said that this is "gray fox" and not raiden) making gray fox and raiden look like clones is off imo, if raiden even looked like gray fox then i guess snake would have noticed it in mgs2 or mgs4.
i'm down for gray fox even if they made him look like raiden.
said to take place 7 years after mgs4, it's getting really inserting tho
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8218/20090527kojimateaserbig.jpg)
So wait, okay that's gray fox?
That would actually make sense then. With Solid Snake finding that one bandanna @ the end of MGS1, and after playing MGS4, my guess is that's not big boss, cuz Big boss was old as hell in MG1, and Gray Fox wasn't a cyborg ninja until after Solid Snake had defeated him in MG1. It has to be solidus wearing a eye patch to fool people. So this has to be a sequel to either MG1, or MG2, but it's definitely a prequel to MGS1.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on June 01, 2009, 04:51:57 PM
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on June 02, 2009, 03:25:03 PM
it's called metal gear solid:rising starring raiden, too bad it wasn't gray fox tho, also according to ign the game is exclusive to x360 at the moment (they removed the exclusive part of the comment) , ps3 is likely to get a big boss game if it's not getting this one.
Oh that sucks. A prequel explaining Solidus' origins would have been cool.
Post by: The Heartbreak Kid on June 02, 2009, 03:51:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD1sHFog2xQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD1sHFog2xQ#)
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on June 02, 2009, 03:57:12 PM
Actually the Big Boss game is going to psp it's called Metal Gear Peace Walker.yeah i read that today, that sucks even more, cus it's said to be a true mgs sequel to the story of big boss and it's only for psp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD1sHFog2xQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD1sHFog2xQ#)
mgs: rising is coming to ps3 and pc as well btw, and calling it Lightning bolt action instead of Tactical Espionage Action makes me think of a ninja gaiden starring raiden lol
Post by: Yung Kratos on June 03, 2009, 07:50:08 PM
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on June 04, 2009, 07:49:43 AM
Metal Gear Solid: Hook Monster Made Me Do It.
But, seriously, I don't mind the exclusivity (Not mostly because I have none of the systems). And I was a bit surprised at the fact the teaser was meant for 2 seperate games.
Still, I'd like to know when MGS:R takes place. I really hope not after MGS4. Hell... who knows... maybe it takes place during MGS4.
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on June 06, 2009, 01:11:06 PM
That explains Raiden from MK's name, and Raiden shootin lightning in MGS4.
I do think it takes place after 4 cuz of the bandanna over his eye. I think this whole thing is just retarded cuz Raidens supposed to start a new life with his wife and kid. Also this game isn't being done by Kojima so expect nothing as spectacular as MGS3 or 4. However the guys who are responsible for 4 are working on the psp game. I wish I had a psp right now but whatever. I guess I'll have to settle for the crappy MGSR game... watch it be a rip off of Ninja Gaiden. lol