Universal Rankings *PLEASE VOTE!*

[warecus]

nobody on hulk side, well I am.

thor has beaten silver surfer before and Hercules beat thor in a one on one match before.  And hulk smashed them all.

Thor has his failsafe to take incompacitate hulk and that is god blast.

Hulk also supported 150 billion ton mountain range on his shoulders

http://m388.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/SavageHulkLifting23SpidermanSecretWars1.jpg.html

http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Hulk-strong.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fZ37jdy-g4M/Sh6AnU2b3bI/AAAAAAAAAQg/msNUBvmz1ic/s320/Hulk-mountain-Secret-Wars.jpg

[The King Sic-1™]

Really i'm the only one who voted for psycho a$$ Sentry, while all the others are worried about killing someone he could snap and rip someone in half case in point Ares
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7347/siege2legioncps024025.jpg

I see your "Sentry Ripping Ares in Half" and Raise you:

[O Ilusionista]

That is an alternative story. If we are going to use that...sorry, but Thunderbird knocked Hulk out like a dog on a Exiles comics...

thor has beaten silver surfer before and Hercules beat thor in a one on one match before.

As I said, IF Thor is using his Thorpower, which wasn't the case.

[Silva-silva]

I see your "Sentry Ripping Ares in Half" and Raise you:

How is this impressive? I didn't know wolverine's spinal cord and muscles were made out of adamantium.

[The King Sic-1™]

How is this impressive? I didn't know wolverine's spinal cord and muscles were made out of adamantium.

that's the point, there nothing impressive about tearing someone in half... that doesn't determine there strength . Sentry has torn 2 people in half so has Hulk....

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

yeah tearing apart someone isnt really that special...unless they are someone who is totally indesrtucable from outside to inside and totally die from it.   In the comic universe there are so many people that are far less on the strength scale than superman, hulk, goku, sentry, blue marvel and thor and hundreds of others that can easily tear apart someone . As long as you got the strength to fling a couch across a room and snap bone and skin.,.you can tear someone apart..realism right there. comic wise.. it aint that much different and only unless you are someone of that high caliber of being total  or virtually indestructable period will be found that will require beings of such power that can do that.

spiderman could and can rip apart many people in the comics if he wanted to with no emotional restrictions and his strength level is 10 tons bench... and you have many many others lower than him that could do it. So tearing apart someone in comics really not very special in the comics unless its those other types.

[eg6gsr]

I'm very confused as to how Superman is ranking under the Hulk if we are using their strongest forms. I don't care how strong the hulk is he can't beat prime 1 million, not only has he been in the sun for 15,000 years absorbing the suns radiation he now has, power ups from the Queen of the 5D imps which allow him to alter reality, the last and most powerful Green Lantern ring and powers from The Source.



http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime_%28One_Million%29


This version of Superman makes Pre-Crisis and Superboy/man Prime look like children and these are version that can deatroy entire multiverses by flying to fast(Pre-Crisis) and can destroy universes with a punch(Superboy prime). With Spawn removed from the list there is no one on it that can top what Superman is.

[Dead Phoenix]

How does Red Hulk stack up to the Incredible Hulk?
Because both can't even kill a host of the Phoenix. Which Hulk has supposedly already beat with his collection and all...

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Just saying...

[The King Sic-1™]

How does Red Hulk stack up to the Incredible Hulk?
Because both can't even kill a host of the Phoenix. Which Hulk has supposedly already beat with his collection and all...

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Just saying...

The Hulk in AvsX is baseline Hulk.... so thats why.
But the hulk that made that nice little trophy room was Meastro Hulk.
Think World War Hulk but like 100 times stronger.... maybe more.

[Arkady]

Rules changed right? so no immortals correct? Take Thor off the list
wolverine too, wonderwoman also
is superman immortal?

half ripped people? If that's credential add subzero or scorpian on there coz ripping people in half is their specialty

rogue? Nope that's like saying absorbing man is the strongest coz he'll absorb adamantium or something

ms marvel on the other hand should be up there (since we are bringing in the gender votes) and she is hell powerful, hands down superhuman

batman please  , are we ranking overall strength power beat downs or are we just voting for our most favourite heroes/ines, batman is just dcs punisher, but with a conscious, if you think punisher is up there?

i also suggest rule out specific versions off that character like god spawn, or maesto hulk, just work on the baseline, coz then we are diverting off the beaten path, and the universal rankings will go mental

in adding more of my two cents in adding black panther, if folks are adding batman i don't see why the king of wakanda couldn't beat half the list

dr strange and captain mar-vell they posses some formidable powers
magneto is a villian, so he should be off the list too, (even if he is being mr nice guy right now, it wont be long before he is villainous self pops up again)
but if your thinking magneto is up there, maybe look into his other daughter Polaris, she is more powerful, and younger, (and im being bias now coz i like her character) up there in the power stakes

but then again when you size anyone next to the big green menace in the room,....... HULK SMASH PWENY GREEN HAIR GIRL!!!!;!

[Dead Phoenix]

i also suggest rule out specific versions off that character like god spawn, or maesto hulk, just work on the baseline, coz then we are diverting off the beaten path, and the universal rankings will go mental

This is true. Though that would suck out half the fun...

The Hulk in AvsX is baseline Hulk.... so thats why.
But the hulk that made that nice little trophy room was Meastro Hulk.
Think World War Hulk but like 100 times stronger.... maybe more.

Okay but what bugs me is this...

Appearing next to the bomb itself, Maestro was seemingly killed in the same moment that created the Hulk...

http://marvel.wikia.com/Robert_Bruce_Banner_%28Earth-9200%29

Superman's invulnerability is still great enough to withstand one 50 megaton nuclear explosion, but he will be knocked out as result.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and_abilities_of_Superman

[The King Sic-1™]

Okay but what bugs me is this...http://marvel.wikia.com/Robert_Bruce_Banner_%28Earth-9200%29

no one said the ending made sense .... it you read the whole comic, if you see how Meastro came to be he would have never died the way he did in the comic....

this is what movie people like to call, "holes in the story."

[SideburnGuru]

no one said the ending made sense .... it you read the whole comic, if you see how Meastro came to be he would have never died the way he did in the comic....

this is what movie people like to call, "holes in the story."

I'm being honest with you though. Hulk is hardly the top dog, not above half the list.

Yeah, one second he can rip Wolverine in half. Next second, he's getting punked by She-Hulk or The Thing, or hell back again to Woverine.

Didn't Deadpool beat him around a few times too? And Ghost Rider? I'm just saying, Hulk requires to be in long fights to upgrade his strength. 

On a side note, where is MMH and Solomon Grundy? Solomon Grundy has been said at his top reincarnation to take Hulk. 

MMH has taken on the whole Justice League.  As for people saying "Stick to the only the true base characters." Then we need to stop acting like Hulk is anything amazing, because his base character is not World War Hulk, or Savage Hulk, or Maestro Hulk. It would just be Hulk, who has jobbed out to so many people it's not even funny.

As I said, Hulk needs to be known down of tiers, on that note, so does Sentry.

Spawn could definitely take Hulk. I mean, there are literally two handfuls of people who should be above Hulk in the Universal Ranking.

[The King Sic-1™]

I'm being honest with you though. Hulk is hardly the top dog, not above half the list.

Yeah, one second he can rip Wolverine in half. Next second, he's getting punked by She-Hulk or The Thing, or hell back again to Woverine.

Didn't Deadpool beat him around a few times too? And Ghost Rider? I'm just saying, Hulk requires to be in long fights to upgrade his strength. 

On a side note, where is MMH and Solomon Grundy? Solomon Grundy has been said at his top reincarnation to take Hulk. 

MMH has taken on the whole Justice League.  As for people saying "Stick to the only the true base characters." Then we need to stop acting like Hulk is anything amazing, because his base character is not World War Hulk, or Savage Hulk, or Maestro Hulk. It would just be Hulk, who has jobbed out to so many people it's not even funny.

As I said, Hulk needs to be known down of tiers, on that note, so does Sentry.

Spawn could definitely take Hulk. I mean, there are literally two handfuls of people who should be above Hulk in the Universal Ranking.

no one ever wants hulk to fight at his strongest.... i wouldn't blame ya....... but spawn beat HULK? 

[eg6gsr]

no one ever wants hulk to fight at his strongest.... i wouldn't blame ya....... but spawn beat HULK? 

You really don't know to much about spawn if you think Hulk is even a match for him. He literally solo'd god and the devil's army's and then remade the Earth. When spawn was on this list he was the top dog but now that he's gone Supermans takes over

[Superjoker]

spawn is gone because he is a demon/god immortal.

Goku here (assuming he didn't get revived by dragon balls) one life only.

and wolverine he is a mutant, not immortal, he could be destroyed.

I will remove Rogue, am i missing a psychic? who is the strongest? and if polaris is really stronger than daddy then sense is made..

[SideburnGuru]

no one ever wants hulk to fight at his strongest.... i wouldn't blame ya....... but spawn beat HULK? 

With no offense, is it safe to assume you have not read any Spawn comic in your life? And only saw the movies?

I'm thinking that with the TC too. Divine Spawn is immortal, but normal Spawn isn't. Normal Spawn is just really amazing and would still be above Hulk.

And hell, if you're going to take off Spawn, you should take off Goku. Since he's pretty much as OP as it gets.   

As I said, MMH and Solomon Grundy at top force should be on here. Should also add Lobo before he was immortal. Before he was made immortal, he had the power to multiply himself from a drop of blood which was an amazing feat.

[CosmicToxin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Richards

He is one of the most powerful mutants to date, galactus is his pet, and he saved all the heroes and villains from onslaught. tell me who you think will beat him (not sarcasm)

[SideburnGuru]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Richards

He is one of the most powerful mutants to date, galactus is his pet, and he saved all the heroes and villains from onslaught. tell me who you think will beat him (not sarcasm)

Damn right.

[Superjoker]

I knew I was forgetting someone!!

Check this article out
highlights Wolvie and him killing Hulk after Hulk ate him.

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/rabbitearsblog/blog/rabbitearsblogs-top-5-shocking-moments-from-old-ma/87926/

[The King Sic-1™]

I knew I was forgetting someone!!

Check this article out
highlights Wolvie and him killing Hulk after Hulk ate him.

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/rabbitearsblog/blog/rabbitearsblogs-top-5-shocking-moments-from-old-ma/87926/

yeah.... that's from "Old Man Logan"..... not one of my fav Hulk Storys...not because he dies, but because what they made him into... sad really.

[O Ilusionista]

Arch, sorry to say, but Wolverine isn't immortal.

[Superjoker]

*UPDATE*

It's getting harder but clearer (if that makes sense).

I added some new entries.

The confirmed Omega-level mutants that are:

1. Absolom Mercator : Mr. M
2. Gabriel Summers : Vulcan
3. Robert Drake : Iceman
4. Jean Grey : Jean Grey
5. Joshua Foley : Elixir
6. Franklin Richards : Franklin Richards
7. Quentin Quire : Quentin Quire
8. Rachel Summers : Marvel Girl
9. David Charles Haller : Legion
10. Nathan Grey : X-Man
11. Hope Summers: Hope

SOURCE: www.comicvine.com

[SideburnGuru]

One more thing? Knock down Goku by a VERY big shot.

You're saying he only has one life, correct? If that's the case, he gets knocked down majorly. And since we can't count Divine Spawn which he gains, or the other versions of Hulk, I see no reason why to include an upgraded Goku, aka the Super Sayain nonsense. 

[Dead Phoenix]

*UPDATE*

It's getting harder but clearer (if that makes sense).

I added some new entries.

The confirmed Omega-level mutants that are:

1. Absolom Mercator : Mr. M
2. Gabriel Summers : Vulcan
3. Robert Drake : Iceman
4. Jean Grey : Jean Grey
5. Joshua Foley : Elixir
6. Franklin Richards : Franklin Richards
7. Quentin Quire : Quentin Quire
8. Rachel Summers : Marvel Girl
9. David Charles Haller : Legion
10. Nathan Grey : X-Man
11. Hope Summers: Hope

SOURCE: www.comicvine.com

You might want to reconsider some of these... This is gonna end up just as Divine Spawn all over again...

X-MAN. Power level is supposedly to be on par with Dark Phoenix...
Is Hope pre AvX? post? because she only had the Phoenix for a moment. During the whole series though she kept displaying its power without having it. So she'd have to be post AvX in which she hasn't shown any phoenix power, to my knowledge.
Same for Jean Grey. She has had a connection to the Force for a long time. My advice go with 90's pre onslaught Jean Grey, no Phoenix at the time.
As for Rachel go with current, she has no phoenix echo right now
Franklin and Legion can just alt reality, no way anyone's going to win...

So...

1. Absolom Mercator : Mr. M
2. Gabriel Summers : Vulcan
3. Robert Drake : Iceman
4. Jean Grey : Jean Grey 90's era (no Phoenix)
5. Joshua Foley : Elixir
7. Quentin Quire : Quentin Quire
8. Rachel Summers : Marvel Girl (current)
11. Hope Summers: Hope (post AvX)

Mr. M is the only one I'm unsure of...