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IMT Discussions => M.U.G.E.N Lost & Found => Open Source => Topic started by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on August 31, 2007, 10:11:43 PM

Title: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on August 31, 2007, 10:11:43 PM
Edit: This list can also be found at Random Select here: http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/forum/index.php?topic=3844.0 (http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/forum/index.php?topic=3844.0) -Excursion

Preamble: Below is a list of circumctances that was agreed upon by various individuals in the Mugen community not particularly affiliated with Infinity. It is understood that you may edit any Mugen character for your own private use but if you end up using any creators material without permission for public use (even if the creator is gone from mugen for any length of time) you will be held responsible for any negative ramifications of your actions. As far as Infinity is concerned, a years absence is NOT enough time to consider a work abandoned. - Acey 05/30/08

Under the following circumstances however you are allowed to use or modify parts from another creator's character if:

# The creator and all his or her works have been offline for approximately a year.
# There is no contact to reach or representative for said person to reach regarding hosting of said works, and there is no previous indication of denial to use said parts or modify said character
# Said work is not private and leaked online (thus, no Blaque)
# If the creator returns and demands removal of said work, you comply immediately.
# The work is not a fully edited character (see: Rikard's work, excludes Evil Dan conversely) to the point of originality, or made of original sprites entirely (see: Borghi's work).
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With these amendments to the rules in mind, it would seem reasonable (at least to me) to have a list of "ok to edit and distribute" characters. This is an accumulative effort, as my knowledge of different creators are limited. You, the people, must fill this list. So, just as there is an unrequestables list, here's one for "abandoned" characters. Please make a mention as to whether or not the creator is active or not. Suggestions welcome.

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Due to an inability to reach their creators and/or the fact that the works have been offline for around a year or more, these creations can be safely edited and distributed. In other words, Open Source.
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Character (Creator Name)

Ken X and Ryu X (LimitedMoon) (Can be reached through Kung Fu Man, though)

All characters made by these people are Open Sourced due to rules.


Matheus







Also, to spread the word, here is a list of people who are currently active or "retired" and are known to have Open Sourced characters. If there's only a certain part of a character that is open source, make sure to mention it.

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Known Open Sourced Works
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All characters made by these people are known to be Open Sourced.
All characters made by these people are known to be Open Source from info gathered
(NOTE: ALWAYS GIVE CREDIT!):

Elecbyte (material packaged by them with mugen EXE only)
-SyN-
Abster
Alchemist - ONLY Sakura Plus and Cammy(mvc2) are opensource. I wouldn't mind someone completing Sakura since I had a HDD crash.
aokmaniac13
Arma X
@ndroide
Aztec Soldier
BBaga
Bia/SMEE/SMI
blunted
Cabbit007
Chrono_Strife
Cirio
Cyanide (unless otherwise specified, notably sprites in Sonic Battle)
Cybaster
DarkValentine
DavidGee/Infirmia
Di Gi Jared
DiscoInferno (Green Ranger only)
DG
DJ-Van
Don Drago
[E]dgar/MaximillianJenus
EricX
Ermac Won
Felineki (unless otherwise stated)
GM(with permission only)
IronMugen (code only)
Jango
Jessica Smoke(Steven Seagal ver6.2, SFTM Ken, Hunter Killer 6.1)
Jo (save for collaborations)
Jin/MugenJin
K3nshin (Only Strider Hien)
K.O.D/Ninja_Naruto
KoYoTae/Corntortillas (save for Silver Samurai sprites and sounds)
Laxxe23/Zeckle (only the code)
LegatoB
LimitedMoon
Loona
Majita
Mambojambo (sprites only)
Messatsu
MostMysterious
Mouser
Mulambø
NeoCide (Majita only)
NeoKamek/Kamek (unless otherwise stated)
Nobun
obreck2
O IlusionistaI'M NOT OPEN SOURCE ANYMORE! YOU NEED TO ASK TO ME FIRST
OnslaughtX
OrochiWeapon2000 (code only, must ask regarding sprites)
P.o.t.S. (except for CvS2 FX)
Reu (code only)
Renzo
ROQUE
Sancyo
Sepp
Scar (Balrog, Deejay and Dan only)
SyN (does not include his full game)
TestP
TheNone  (unless otherwise stated)
TigerMask
Thomas Hsieh
Useless Chicken (only his Akuma)
VinceJ
Warner
Warusaki3 (Note: must ask permission for CvS chars, as works include content from H")
Yzan
Zeldagis296 (must include readme)






Because it was inevitable...

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Known CLOSED Sourced Works
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You *cannot* edit and distribute the works of:

ahrimanes
BadDarkness
Borghi
Byakko
Chottomaru
cmh777
Deuce
Fervicante
FlowaGirl/TheNecromancer
Fou-Lu
FreezeMan
H"
Helios
Hoshi
intense mc
Jesuszilla
JinKazama
Kamekaze
Kung Fu Man
Loganir
Lost Soldier
M@ppy
Mature4Evr
McCready
MGBenz
Moldredd
Mr. Fong
N64Mario
NeoAnkh
NeoCide
NeoGouki
Neon Tiger
Orochi Herman
OrochiKOF97
Pneophen
Rikard
Roken
Rolento
ShinRyoga
Splode
Sunboy
Supermystery (unless otherwise stated)
Third
TMasta
Vans
VisualKreations
XCalibreBlade
XGargoyle
ZSabreUser
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: b.easy on August 31, 2007, 10:34:02 PM
Ken X and Ryu X by LimitedMoon (inactive)
All characters by ROQUE (active)
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Megafanx13 on August 31, 2007, 10:47:17 PM
Characters By ER status: inactive
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on August 31, 2007, 10:50:47 PM
Could you mention if the creator is still active or not?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: shootYr. on August 31, 2007, 11:20:28 PM
Kung Fu Man's Readme says you can edit him and distribute his files as edited.

Ummm..... All of POTS Creations are open source? Why?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on August 31, 2007, 11:32:14 PM
After Guild's make-over, P.o.t.S. made his stuff open source.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: shootYr. on August 31, 2007, 11:38:39 PM
After Guild's make-over, P.o.t.S. made his stuff open source.

Orly?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 01, 2007, 12:18:44 AM
After Guild's make-over, P.o.t.S. made his stuff open source.

Orly?

Ya rly!
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: SirAnzai on September 01, 2007, 12:18:55 AM
Most_Mysterious's creations are open-source (his brother, The_None, confirms that MM stated that when he left years ago).
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 01, 2007, 12:57:58 AM
Panzer: You might split that into two sections. One being known open source, another being open source due to the rules.

known open source additions:
-Mouser
-TestP

Due to the rules:
-Thomas Hsieh

Btw, there's been some confusion about these three: they are not open source and are still around:
-TheNecromancer/FlowaGirl
-Deuce
-BigEliKing
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 01, 2007, 01:02:42 AM
Actually, the list *is* split into 2 sections.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 01, 2007, 01:07:28 AM
Ah my bad. MM should go in the confirmed open-source section then given what Anzai said.

Thomas Hsieh made note of for open source under rules.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 01, 2007, 01:14:21 AM
Didn't know Eli was "back".

Don't know what to do with that list of creators with closed sourced characters. This was meant as a list for open sourced characters, and a list of closed sourced creations would probably be too large.

But I'll see what I can think of.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 01, 2007, 01:19:28 AM
He never really left actually Panzer, just hangs out in the same 'bar' most of us do, occaisonally where the whole community shabang is discussed and all that good jazz.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Megafanx13 on September 01, 2007, 01:22:27 AM
is there a reason why ER can't be on the list the same way hsieh is?

couldnt scar release his spawn?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Sync The Tempest on September 01, 2007, 01:31:02 AM
i thought this was gonna be a sticky
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 01, 2007, 01:31:40 AM
is there a reason why ER can't be on the list the same way hsieh is?

I didn't see the edit at first. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: StarXS on September 01, 2007, 07:49:28 PM
wouldn't MystikBlaze's stuff fall under open source? He hasn't been around since the early days right?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 01, 2007, 08:21:16 PM
Alright.

And can a mod sticky this?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Taka on September 01, 2007, 08:24:37 PM
That would make the world a lot happier. :)
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Megafanx13 on September 01, 2007, 08:27:11 PM
Jin Kazama's Stuff status: inactive
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Taka on September 01, 2007, 08:34:08 PM
I think Scar won't release his Spawn because it shows disrespect to E.R. But ofcourse its been a while since he last logged in......RELEASE HIM!  XD||
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: TehDemon on September 01, 2007, 09:10:25 PM
shoudn't all of the Mrev teams stuff be on this list too? Regarding Scar's MvC spawn, don't force him to release it (that being said, yes I would like to haev his spawn as well), he will release it if he wants to.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 01, 2007, 09:41:47 PM
Hold it.

Jin, MystikBlaze, and MRev all stated no in readmes at the very least: that still counts as a given they don't go on here (readme states no, it is still no unless they state otherwise at a later time). JinKazama's still around too: last we heard, he was working on a MK game.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: TehDemon on September 01, 2007, 09:45:30 PM
Hold it.

Jin, MystikBlaze, and MRev all stated no in readmes at the very least: that still counts as a given they don't go on here (readme states no, it is still no unless they state otherwise at a later time). JinKazama's still around too: last we heard, he was working on a MK game.

my bad lol
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 01, 2007, 09:49:58 PM
On a side note, good news and better news:
-Hsieh's site is still online now thanks to tripod
-He belongs in the second open-source category it would seem from what info I've been handed.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Mustkillroy on September 01, 2007, 10:07:33 PM
I'm not sure about the rest of his works, but JudgeSpear has stated that his edit of Homer is open source, as long as credit is given.

Also, I believe Warner's stuff is open source, but don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 01, 2007, 10:11:05 PM
Warner's stuff is completely open source.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Mustkillroy on September 01, 2007, 10:12:04 PM
Warner's stuff is completely open source.

Okay, we have confirmation.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: BigJ on September 01, 2007, 10:35:24 PM
This is very informative. I would sticky this since for some reason I have that power, but I don't want to upset anyone :-??
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: AceWonder20 on September 01, 2007, 10:51:35 PM
I stickied it.  Hope I dont get in trouble.  :-$
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 01, 2007, 11:20:48 PM
Alright then. I'm not missing anything, am I?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: desgrav on September 01, 2007, 11:36:04 PM
Don't you have to ask permission from warner to edit his stuff?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 01, 2007, 11:55:58 PM
Well, KFM said Warner's stuff was open sourced, so I don't think so, as long as you provide credit.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Taka on September 01, 2007, 11:57:32 PM
We really should get in contact with E.R, one way or another. But if he is inactive, and I'm saying he's been inactive for a while, why not use some edit some of his work? :(|)
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 02, 2007, 12:16:00 AM
A lot of ER's stuff falls under the completely-edited clause of things: meaning, you can't modify them.

desgrav: it's a courtesy, but Warner stated even here he was open source...though he prefered whatever was made of his characters was better than the originals. On a side note, "his" Luigi doesn't count in that, as it's N64Mario's coding used with permission.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: KPT25 on September 02, 2007, 12:39:29 AM
But the sprites from Warner`s Luigi ARE open source though,so you can use them i think...:D
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 02, 2007, 01:13:51 AM
Right.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Mustkillroy on September 02, 2007, 01:16:32 AM
A lot of ER's stuff falls under the completely-edited clause of things: meaning, you can't modify them.

I think that, if Evil Dan doesn't count as original, neither should Spawn. But, hey, it's your call.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: dennis872005 on September 02, 2007, 01:32:24 AM
A lot of ER's stuff falls under the completely-edited clause of things: meaning, you can't modify them.

I think that, if Evil Dan doesn't count as original, neither should Spawn. But, hey, it's your call.

I don't think its his call. As long as everyone agrees that it is okay to use spawn its alright, but I am guessing people agree with kfm.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 02, 2007, 01:33:38 AM
I just took ER off. But now I see there's a bit of a debate going on.

Should I make a third, "inconclusive" list?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Taka on September 02, 2007, 01:37:32 AM
Make a thread on debate if E.R's incomplete stuff can be used. Like Spawn and others. <_<|...|
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 02, 2007, 02:22:59 AM
Evil Dan was Dan's sprites modified to a mostly palette swapped character. Spawn and Regina are not akin to their bases however in a similar relation.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 02, 2007, 02:29:48 AM
So, what else should I edit in?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Taka on September 02, 2007, 11:11:49 AM
Evil Dan was Dan's sprites modified to a mostly palette swapped character. Spawn and Regina are not akin to their bases however in a similar relation.
IMO, Spawn is just Captain Americas Pallete Swap, he really needs an upgrade.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: b.easy on September 02, 2007, 11:39:12 AM
Evil Dan was Dan's sprites modified to a mostly palette swapped character. Spawn and Regina are not akin to their bases however in a similar relation.
IMO, Spawn is just Captain Americas Pallete Swap, he really needs an upgrade.
let's drop the Spawn thing, OK? it's not a pallete swap, it's a sprite edit. Pallete is colors. It's old and incomplete, but it's ER'S original work and his alone.

anyways, Chrono_Strife's characters are open source.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: 1nonly on September 02, 2007, 12:14:16 PM
obreck2 stuff is open source
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Barrysun on September 02, 2007, 01:04:27 PM
well, I beleve the green ranger can also be added to the list as Open source.
for proof, some time ago, I met his creator on youtube.
and he commented one of my videos. (the one where I fought Tsunade with green ranger)
check this out to see just what I'm talking about.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/Barrysun/proof.jpg)
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: nick09 on September 02, 2007, 01:30:52 PM
XGargoyle's work should be open source because he has not been on for years......
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 02, 2007, 02:20:10 PM
...his site is still very much online Nick. Hell, I spoke with him two months back even.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: nick09 on September 02, 2007, 02:21:00 PM
...his site is still very much online Nick. Hell, I spoke with him two months back even.

oh ok.......
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 02, 2007, 08:20:19 PM
Open source: OnslaughtX (contradicts readmes, but final word from him was his stuff is open source), Sepp, Zeldagis296 (must include readme)

*Not* open source: Third and M@ppy. Found this out hunting down their stuff sadly. Shame too.

Btw, LimitedMoon...I'm his official host, so generally if anything needs to be reached about him it'll end up through me. o_O
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: SirAnzai on September 02, 2007, 09:47:39 PM
NeoKamek's creations are open-source, unless something specific (parts of Reiko were made by XCB) isn't by him (found out by the characters readme).
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Freddy Mercury on September 02, 2007, 10:04:38 PM
Don Drago's characters

(RBS Geese all in one, Ken 4 in 1, Geese 4 in 1)

are ALL OPEN-OPEN Source.

Open source - basically you still have to give credit
Open Open Source - The heck with the credit... yes I am not kidding. I've talked to Don Drago about this. I still give credit if ever i use an Open Open Source material especially from one of my associates XD.

Yep, any part of any of Don Drago's characters has I asked him are free to use for anyone. Sprites, coding, AI code (definitely a great have for future AI coders/creators).

I don't know about the hosting/distribution on his chars though. I'll talk to him whether he will allow almost anyone to host his chars or not.

Also, I would need some clarifications if Kurai Naito's characters or more specifically coding and such are also open-source... or does it he have parameters on it.

And as always Jesuszilla's works are definitely NOT open source. the same with his associate Vans.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Megafanx13 on September 02, 2007, 11:05:21 PM
DG's stuff is open source apparently (i was going to keep this to myself, be thankful i didn't.)
you do still have to ask, but unless you're a bad mugen person, he'll always say yes.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Freddy Mercury on September 02, 2007, 11:12:04 PM
DG's stuff is open source apparently (i was going to keep this to myself, be thankful i didn't.)
you do still have to ask, but unless you're a bad mugen person, he'll always say yes.

I could have been the same thing in regards to Don Drago's open-open source creations...

but since Don already told it in MI and probably in MGBR and Mugen-hispania bout his open open source policy, I'll tell it here for keeps.

the funny thing also is that if you do manage to use any of Don Drago's characters, one way that will either make him angry (like most mugen creators would be if any bad crap happens to their character) or point at your face and laugh at you is when you do use like say Geese or Ken 4 in 1, modify it a lot or a little, and claim its your character and say "This is my char, please DO NOT MODIFY"
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 02, 2007, 11:43:27 PM
DG's stuff is open source apparently (i was going to keep this to myself, be thankful i didn't.)
you do still have to ask, but unless you're a bad mugen person, he'll always say yes.

I don't know if I can really say that his stuff would be open source, even if he'll generally say yes.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Megafanx13 on September 02, 2007, 11:49:21 PM
in the email he sent me, he said, "my chars are free, you can use it", that sounds like open source to me.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 02, 2007, 11:53:17 PM
Alright. I just didn't want to add something that wasn't really open source, and I don't count it if you have to ask to use it.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: kamekaze on September 02, 2007, 11:55:43 PM
add me to the not open source list pls k thx
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Megafanx13 on September 02, 2007, 11:57:40 PM
DG's stuff is open source apparently (i was going to keep this to myself, be thankful i didn't.)
you do still have to ask, but unless you're a bad mugen person, he'll always say yes.

I don't know if I can really say that his stuff would be open source, even if he'll generally say yes.
oh well, take him off the list then, because you do have to ask, he'll just always say yes.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 03, 2007, 12:02:14 AM
add me to the not open source list pls k thx
[/quote}

Alright.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: oso123 on September 03, 2007, 08:25:46 PM
X-boy sprites are open source too.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: SiddtheKidd on September 10, 2007, 06:56:45 PM
 :| crap i have to ask again. would releasing a sff for a character giving them a new look be the same as releasing a pallete swap?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 10, 2007, 07:44:51 PM
If you release just the SFF no. That's a patch. If you release the character with that SFF, then it's a sprite swap, which is akin to as you mentioned a palette swap (or worse sometimes...see God Ryu...)
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: GodJewels on September 10, 2007, 07:54:46 PM
Had no idea Mugen was this serious  #:-S
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: SiddtheKidd on September 10, 2007, 09:24:06 PM
If you release just the SFF no. That's a patch. If you release the character with that SFF, then it's a sprite swap, which is akin to as you mentioned a palette swap (or worse sometimes...see God Ryu...)
so would patches be an allowed release?
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 10, 2007, 10:01:58 PM
Of course.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Excursion on September 10, 2007, 10:20:15 PM
I updated the list to reflect Random Select's up-to-date list of people who's works are/aren't open source.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Iyowa on September 11, 2007, 09:09:59 PM
Quote from Alchemist before the topic was removed from M.I:

Quote
Just like to say that ONLY Sakura Plus and Cammy(mvc2) are opensource, anyone else WILL become opensource once they are completed, so this will prevent anyone finishing my work before me due to time constrictions, as a matter of fact I wouldn't mind someone completing Sakura since I had a HDD crash, so KFM could you just state that in the list plz, thanks   
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Excursion on September 11, 2007, 09:16:26 PM
Thanks Iyowa. I update the list to respect Alchemist's wishes.  :)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on September 11, 2007, 09:31:03 PM
I need to check something with you all...Lots of creators are listed on as closed source...so if i want to edit one of their chars(let`s say,turn Tetsu into Silent Storm for real) and release it to the public,i`ll need to get the permission to do that here right?or it`s not even allowed to release that edit,even with permission?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 11, 2007, 09:56:56 PM
If you get permission you'll be fine. Though if you have that example you mentioned in mind you probably could forget it ;P

Iyowa: Thanks for the head's up, when RS is up I'll fix that entry on the list over there too.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on September 11, 2007, 10:21:35 PM
Thanks i just wanted to know that,altough the example i put was not the best of all...
 >:-(-|Besides,i don`t know (yet) how to code a char or rip sprites,due to lack of time,it will not be possible to do it at the moment,but i`m pretty sure that with the open source stuff avail and the docs,i could learn a couple of things right?

Had no idea Mugen was this serious  #:-S

Yes,it`s kinda serious for a freeware game...but we have codes in here to follow :rulez:
Some others don`t give a crap about those "rules" or internal codes,and that`s when sh*t happens and creators quit for good...
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: vyn on September 12, 2007, 02:35:47 PM
There is content of several creators and editors in my chars (i know i only relased ryu so far), some in open some in not open so better clear this out to avoid problems (i would count on the open source side but guys like H wouldnt) so:

My CODE is open source, everything else, ask me so i can redirect you.

like my code was that great XD, someone let kfm know plz cause im not a member in that forum

and  XD||
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: nick09 on September 12, 2007, 04:21:40 PM
There is content of several creators and editors in my chars (i know i only relased ryu so far), some in open some in not open so better clear this out to avoid problems (i would count on the open source side but guys like H wouldnt) so:

My CODE is open source, everything else, ask me so i can redirect you.

like my code was that great XD, someone let kfm know plz cause im not a member in that forum

and  XD||

sure i will let him know in an pm.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Taka on September 13, 2007, 12:26:29 PM
Is Cable an open source?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on September 14, 2007, 11:42:05 AM
You need to be more specific,there´s a Cable by Ryouwin,Cloudius and another one that i can´t recall...
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: shootYr. on September 15, 2007, 02:00:15 AM
Wait. Wouldn't K3nshin's Stuff be open source? Hes the guy who made Strider Hien.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on September 15, 2007, 02:20:12 PM
I don´t remember it...but as far as i know,he gave the OK for Strider Hien being open source
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: warner on September 16, 2007, 03:05:39 PM
Don't you have to ask permission from warner to edit his stuff?

it would be nice if the one who wants to modify any of my chars, let me know his project.  :|
and for the simple reason my sprites are totally originals, it will be kind if give me credit for that.  ;D
and the new char who raise from the one of my chars, must to be shared as well.

And with that simple conditions all my stuff will be open source always, but disrespect my simples conditions,  :-$ turns my work will be private, all my future chars.
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: desgrav on September 16, 2007, 03:14:27 PM
Don't you have to ask permission from warner to edit his stuff?

it would be nice if the one who wants to modify any of my chars, let me know his project.  :|
and for the simple reason my sprites are totally originals, it will be kind if give me credit for that.  ;D
and the new char who raise from the one of my chars, must to be shared as well.

And with that simple conditions all my stuff will be open source always, but disrespect my simples conditions,  :-$ turns my work will be private, all my future chars.

Ok if I ever decide to edit your chars I'll ask. And thanks for really clearing that up. :)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on September 16, 2007, 06:08:08 PM
I think that was pretty well understood...and welcome here Warner!
Glad to see you here as well...:)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 16, 2007, 10:06:16 PM
Means too though that Warner goes in the other list (open source equates to stuff folks don't have to ask your permission for)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TehDemon on September 16, 2007, 10:52:19 PM
What abbout One Winged Angel's stuff? Is he closed or open?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Alexziq on September 17, 2007, 04:26:42 PM
Anyone have any idea on the X-men character Thunderbird? I have found no information on the author, and the character has been incomplete for years, and works as a good base. I think this falls into the 1 year rule, but I would like to double check.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: warner on September 17, 2007, 09:10:25 PM
Means too though that Warner goes in the other list (open source equates to stuff folks don't have to ask your permission for)
hmmmm, i didn,t see it at that way.
Ok. i think if somebody use my sprites and make public release of his/her new char, giving credit for the sprite's author.
then is OK.

i hope don't miss those releases. :P
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: vyn on September 18, 2007, 10:19:30 AM
Means too though that Warner goes in the other list (open source equates to stuff folks don't have to ask your permission for)
hmmmm, i didn,t see it at that way.
Ok. i think if somebody use my sprites and make public release of his/her new char, giving credit for the sprite's author.
then is OK.

i hope don't miss those releases. :P

ill clear this up a little, since warners way of speaking is kinda weird (his mother language is spanish not english)

warner IS open source as long as the character is relased to the public and he is credited for the sprites, so he goes to the open source list, no permission needed

warner: les puse una aclaracion porque parece que los gringos se confundian jaja, espero no te moleste man
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 18, 2007, 10:33:36 AM
vyn: actually I think everyone could get that quite clearly from what Warner said, no translation was needed :P
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on September 18, 2007, 10:36:17 AM
i'm still wondering about ahuron and dala :O*D
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: A! on September 18, 2007, 11:51:45 AM
are you allowed to use sprites for a private edit
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: BigJ on September 18, 2007, 12:14:11 PM
since we officially know that the old Yacopu has no author (as KFM has stated), would that make him open source?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: warner on September 18, 2007, 11:39:59 PM
i think if the original author is lost for years, and you want to update his char, u can do it, but the credit of the original author must remain.

about using sprites for private edit, i think is ok. meanwhile don't boasting how nice is your edited char in the community.  :-w

Vyn, no estoy seguro si Boast es alardear. espero que se entienda lo q trato de decir.
No me gustaría ver q usen mis sprites y mejoren el char, solo lo anuncien y no lo compartan.  >:P

better keep your edited char for yourself and don't tell to anybody, if u don't think to share it.

I don't like the selfishness!  ~X(
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 19, 2007, 12:13:42 AM
since we officially know that the old Yacopu has no author (as KFM has stated), would that make him open source?

Could be touchy, as it could be made by someone who stated they aren't open source, just didn't realize to update the character with an authorname (i.e. very old mugen works), or they could've been open source from the getgo. Personally in this case I'd go with listing them in a category to locate info on who the author was first if possible, and go from there.

are you allowed to use sprites for a private edit

Obviously yes, just don't distribute it privately or some twit will eventually stab you in the back @_@'

i'm still wondering about ahuron and dala :O*D

You might be best off emailing them with a query to see if they respond with a yes?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: A! on September 19, 2007, 07:04:12 PM
since we officially know that the old Yacopu has no author (as KFM has stated), would that make him open source?

Could be touchy, as it could be made by someone who stated they aren't open source, just didn't realize to update the character with an authorname (i.e. very old mugen works), or they could've been open source from the getgo. Personally in this case I'd go with listing them in a category to locate info on who the author was first if possible, and go from there.

are you allowed to use sprites for a private edit

Obviously yes, just don't distribute it privately or some twit will eventually stab you in the back @_@'

i'm still wondering about ahuron and dala :O*D

You might be best off emailing them with a query to see if they respond with a yes?

oh ok thats good to bad i cant release him
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on September 20, 2007, 12:09:02 AM
i think if the original author is lost for years, and you want to update his char, u can do it, but the credit of the original author must remain.

about using sprites for private edit, i think is ok. meanwhile don't boasting how nice is your edited char in the community.  :-w

Vyn, no estoy seguro si Boast es alardear. espero que se entienda lo q trato de decir.
No me gustaría ver q usen mis sprites y mejoren el char, solo lo anuncien y no lo compartan.  >:P

better keep your edited char for yourself and don't tell to anybody, if u don't think to share it.

I don't like the selfishness!  ~X(

Me neither...as long as the edit is legit,ppl should go ahead and release them
 >:-(-| Warner:boast si significa alardear,esta bien como lo expresaste  :)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Erikson on September 20, 2007, 05:46:41 PM
EricX spawn is Open Source too
on his last post at paodemugen http://forum.paodemugen.com.br/index.php?showtopic=1330&st=40
QUOTE(ErickX @ Feb 13 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]35526[/snapback]

desculpe pessoal, abandonei o proj... espero que alguem tenha a coragem e bondade de voltar com ele... sintam-se a vontade pra usar da forma que quiserem as imagens 13.gif

abraços!

translation: Sorry people, i give up on the project...i hope someone has the courage and the kindness to brings he back... feel free to use the images, the way you want.
Hugs!
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Megafanx13 on September 20, 2007, 09:16:11 PM
would Tetsu's creation's be open source?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 21, 2007, 04:15:02 AM
would Tetsu's creation's be open source?

Tetsu as in XCB, or did you mean "Tatsu"?

If it's the first, no. The second is unknown.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Megafanx13 on September 21, 2007, 07:09:28 PM
i think it's tatsu.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: !E on September 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
all my work and all of my sprite edit that I've post on any forum are free for use and slaughter!.
 :)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Marancv on September 21, 2007, 10:00:49 PM
all my work and all of my sprite edit that I've post on any forum are free for use and slaughter!.
 :)
:o

@vyn &  warner: oigan, yo tenia entendido que los sprites originales se pueden usar solo con la autorizacion de su autor...el trabajo puesto en la parte gráfica creo que a veces es un poco tomado a la ligera. y claro que deben acreditar al autor original.

Warner un gustazo tenerte por aca.. nowadays several big names of mugen scene has arrived to infinity.. thats just great...   XD||
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: warner on September 22, 2007, 12:49:58 AM
Gracias marancv, aunque debo decirte que los foros en inglés los frecuento poco.  ???
Pero éste me gusta mucho, acá los usuarios crean excelentes cosas para el Mugen.

Congratulations! this forum is Great!
Amazing projects!  ^:)^
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Mambojambo on September 24, 2007, 08:52:10 PM
All my sprites are free! Only the sprites.  ;)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Scar on September 24, 2007, 08:55:59 PM
All my sprites are free! Only the sprites.  ;)


AWESOME NEWS  :)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on September 25, 2007, 08:52:43 AM
Yes,BIG AWESOME NEWS,taking in account that we are talking about the great Mega-spriter MamboJambo :w00t:
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Mustkillroy on September 25, 2007, 02:29:52 PM
*looks at list* So, the new rules haven't affected anything? Wow, kind of a waste, don't you think?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 25, 2007, 02:52:08 PM
Nobody's really done anything with them yet really, which is kinda surprising to be honest.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Excursion on September 25, 2007, 03:04:04 PM
*looks at list* So, the new rules haven't affected anything? Wow, kind of a waste, don't you think?

Nobody's really done anything with them yet really, which is kinda surprising to be honest.

How do you figure?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: StarXS on September 25, 2007, 04:31:45 PM
is Matheus's stuff open source? He was around back in 2001-02, but I believe he left the community (correct me if I'm wrong?)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 25, 2007, 04:41:11 PM
How do you figure?

What I meant was, most of the folks making stuff from the works of others are sticking to the known permission range despite the new rules (and excluding the free for all that Guild's got going). Not that this is a bad thing, just was saying what I did in response to mustkillroy was they aren't a waste, more just something not taking advantage of much yet.

@star: Check the documentation for anything that would hint they aren't? As he does seem to be completely gone at this point.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TehDemon on September 25, 2007, 10:08:23 PM
hopefully I'll be able to take advantage of this open source thing once I get MvC2 effects. I have plans for a MvC Lord Raptor based on Zeldagais' thing   ;D

But yeah, no one has really been following this thing that much
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on September 26, 2007, 06:47:36 AM
Wait. Wouldn't K3nshin's Stuff be open source? Hes the guy who made Strider Hien.

Oh is that so?
"Maybe I might..........."

Guess I was forgotten on Random Select, I did mention that my materials from characters to coding, to stages to effects, etc are freely open to use.
I would like people to study on how I made Interactive stages and hopefully produce some of their own, thats just a dream of mines.

 ;)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 26, 2007, 07:46:53 AM
Quote
Guess I was forgotten on Random Select, I did mention that my materials from characters to coding, to stages to effects, etc are freely open to use.

Actually I missed that note. It was probably becuase I'm still trying to figure out what that riot iori guy made at the time.

Also, Hien falls under the completely edited category folks :P
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: StarXS on September 26, 2007, 10:19:55 AM
@star: Check the documentation for anything that would hint they aren't? As he does seem to be completely gone at this point.

found this on his site...

Quote
March 9th 2001
I do not work in Mugen anymore. Sorry for keep you waiting. Please, don't blame me.

I'm moving to another town and I won't have a computer.

Please, do not e-mail me.

I'll miss you all, especially the first Mugen makers, who helped me a lot...

Matheus

yeah, I'd say that it's open source...
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: nick09 on September 27, 2007, 05:19:23 PM
@star: Check the documentation for anything that would hint they aren't? As he does seem to be completely gone at this point.

found this on his site...

Quote
March 9th 2001
I do not work in Mugen anymore. Sorry for keep you waiting. Please, don't blame me.

I'm moving to another town and I won't have a computer.

Please, do not e-mail me.

I'll miss you all, especially the first Mugen makers, who helped me a lot...

Matheus

yeah, I'd say that it's open source...

well he did not state he is open source......
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: StarXS on September 27, 2007, 06:33:26 PM
@star: Check the documentation for anything that would hint they aren't? As he does seem to be completely gone at this point.

found this on his site...

Quote
March 9th 2001
I do not work in Mugen anymore. Sorry for keep you waiting. Please, don't blame me.

I'm moving to another town and I won't have a computer.

Please, do not e-mail me.

I'll miss you all, especially the first Mugen makers, who helped me a lot...

Matheus

yeah, I'd say that it's open source...

well he did not state he is open source......

I think that open source wasn't even thought of back then... I don't know what was going on but dude only released Spidey & Charlie, and says he quits Mugen...unless he went/goes by a different name then according to this:

Edit: This list can also be found at Random Select here: http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/forum/index.php?topic=3844.0 (http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/forum/index.php?topic=3844.0) -Excursion

Under the following circumstances however you are allowed to use or modify parts from another creator's character if:

# The creator and all his or her works have been offline for approximately a year.
# There is no contact to reach or representative for said person to reach regarding hosting of said works, and there is no previous indication of denial to use said parts or modify said character

then that'd be open source only under those circumstances...
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: b.easy on September 27, 2007, 10:03:13 PM
Also, Hien falls under the completely edited category folks :P
but the author himself gave people permission to update him.  :|
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on September 27, 2007, 10:29:06 PM
I was one of them, but this was years back when we all used to use the mugen channel in #efnet.

I never brought it up because many wouldnt remember and many are new or newer than I was and it would be pointless to argue about what they don't know.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 28, 2007, 08:54:20 AM
Well I guess that leaves it up to you SyN if that char is open source or not as you were the last to have the rights to it.

As for Matheus, I'd say he goes under the open source category (there isn't any sign of him still being around). That's kinda nice when you think about it: leaves the option open to see a truly good spidey a lot more readily.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on September 28, 2007, 10:43:12 AM
Well i did have a private project involving him I started in the past but I guess I will continue it. If K3nShiN returns and asks for this to stop, then out of respect I will.

If its left up to me as you say, The only thing I ask is that first and foremost, credit K3nShiN for taking the time to make the edits and bringing such a character to life, consider this a privilege and don't abuse it.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: shootYr. on September 28, 2007, 08:53:02 PM
Well i did have a private project involving him I started in the past but I guess I will continue it. If K3nShiN returns and asks for this to stop, then out of respect I will.

If its left up to me as you say, The only thing I ask is that first and foremost, credit K3nShiN for taking the time to make the edits and bringing such a character to life, consider this a privilege and don't abuse it.

....I don't think I can help myself. Im an Open Source Freak. Its Fun making and Editing things for MUG3N.

Question. Can I release my edits of POTS Ryu and Akuma? It Says You can't use POTS Fx and I did. :O But I haven't released it so its okay.  ;)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on September 28, 2007, 09:32:50 PM
Thx for the clarification Syn,so we are allowed to update Strider Hien if we want/could as long as K3nShin is credited.
This is good news thx again

@Nekkou knightmare:If you wanna keep the FX,you should get in touch with P.o.t.S about this...if he says no,you can always check the sprite source and use FX that`s open source <_<|...|
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: shootYr. on September 28, 2007, 10:04:37 PM
So that means no lvl2 ryu and lvl3 akuma for you guys. Forget this Im going home... XD Just kidding.

So I guess Marancv had permission....

Wait? I can Edit Warusaki's DIO?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on September 29, 2007, 08:58:35 AM
Well i did have a private project involving him I started in the past but I guess I will continue it. If K3nShiN returns and asks for this to stop, then out of respect I will.

If its left up to me as you say, The only thing I ask is that first and foremost, credit K3nShiN for taking the time to make the edits and bringing such a character to life, consider this a privilege and don't abuse it.

....I don't think I can help myself. Im an Open Source Freak. Its Fun making and Editing things for MUG3N.

Question. Can I release my edits of POTS Ryu and Akuma? It Says You can't use POTS Fx and I did. :O But I haven't released it so its okay.  ;)

Well like me, custom effects in characters are custom made and its not something you can whip up in an instant.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on September 29, 2007, 11:45:28 AM
I was just wondering, what about Sancyo? I don't see him on Closed or Open sources lists.  :-??
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: shootYr. on September 29, 2007, 01:36:31 PM
Thats Because his things are Open Closed! XD
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TripleM on October 05, 2007, 10:52:20 PM
is mikage, Sub-Zero and BadBassBoy an open sourse I need to know
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: A! on October 07, 2007, 12:06:56 PM
Well i did have a private project involving him I started in the past but I guess I will continue it. If K3nShiN returns and asks for this to stop, then out of respect I will.

If its left up to me as you say, The only thing I ask is that first and foremost, credit K3nShiN for taking the time to make the edits and bringing such a character to life, consider this a privilege and don't abuse it.

....I don't think I can help myself. Im an Open Source Freak. Its Fun making and Editing things for MUG3N.

Question. Can I release my edits of POTS Ryu and Akuma? It Says You can't use POTS Fx and I did. :O But I haven't released it so its okay.  ;)

Well like me, custom effects in characters are custom made and its not something you can whip up in an instant.

marancv used pots fx
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on October 07, 2007, 12:50:05 PM
I would like to say something.

I have seen and tried many peoples works that were released recently and I will honestly say this. I wasn't happy with what I witnessed and experienced.

This post here s more of a personal opinion of mines and not to bash anyone on this forum, hear me out before posting any further please.

The issue I am having is that ok, many creators such as myself allowed our materials to be used for open source resources from coding to fx, etc.
There are number of releases that really are not considered releases to me. I see many characters that are from others that really have no changes made to them but prolly a few stances and hitsparks added and some sound effects and voices changed, other than that, no major work was really done, just some sound, voice and sprite fx swaps.

I really believe that many are misusing or not fully understanding the purpose of works being made open source. Sure you are allowed to borrow some materials from other creations but still these character edited releases basically are what I said earlier and don't really have much to offer from its original version.

I can understand bug fixes or perhaps an author abandoned a current wip and someone took over, but I definitely didnt see any bug fixes in many of these edited releases nor nothing really new at all.

I strongly believe if anyone wants to use a complete character for open source purposes, do more than just swap certain items out, learn from these characters as to how they were made and coded. That is the main reason why many of us creators make these coding archives and tries our best to explain how things work as simple as we can to where the newbies can understand it.

And yes the DOCS does help, many are just to lazy to read the documentation and wants to be spoon fed or have their hand held when it comes to creating. Sorry to put it in that phrase but its the truth, I have dealt with that over and over again.

All I want to say is don't abuse the open source privilege because it is a privilege you know, from those who make sprite packs to custom coding to whatever fits that topic, use it wisely, don't abuse it.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: A! on October 07, 2007, 12:53:33 PM
Quote
I see many characters that are from others that really have no changes made to them but prolly a few stances and hitsparks added and some sound effects and voices changed, other than that, no major work was really done, just some sound, voice and sprite fx swaps

i agree with you there and you might be thinking of the same one as i am
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on October 07, 2007, 12:58:57 PM
Maybe, but ill keep those works to myself.

I remember when this opensource movement was started in the past. Many were against it and many were all for it.

I supported it myself and still do, but I am starting to see why those that didn't support it in the begining.

from what I mentioned above, it is definitely being used for the wrong purposes.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TripleM on October 07, 2007, 01:31:05 PM
All I want to say is don't abuse the open source privilege because it is a privilege you know, from those who make sprite packs to custom coding to whatever fits that topic, use it wisely, don't abuse it.
I agree with you on that
Quote
I see many characters that are from others that really have no changes made to them but prolly a few stances and hitsparks added and some sound effects and voices changed, other than that, no major work was really done, just some sound, voice and sprite fx swaps
and I agree with that
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on October 07, 2007, 05:43:22 PM
Any idiot and swing a sword, but it takes time and training to master it.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on October 08, 2007, 01:18:08 PM
heh, yeah.

I really wish people just take the time to learn the basics. Its not like mugen coding was completely learned over night, hell even I am still learning this.
Might be hard to believe but its true.

I can say this, my skills are nothing compared to the past years and when I started.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: vyn on October 08, 2007, 04:54:22 PM
very true and the worst part is that the best characters out there get screwed up, i wouldnt mind so much if someone takes a crappy character to make it crappier but taking a good one and crapping it...that bothers me, yet i always try to believe the best out of everyone and hope these bad edits serve as practice for good future characters, ive seen it a couple of times already so heres hoping

and yes this is caused mostly out of lazyness, authors of these characters often go "why make the whole charater when i can use one already made" and think thats logic... not a true creator attitude if u ask me
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on October 08, 2007, 08:15:27 PM
Considering the characters I wanted to make, it would be, for the most part, easier if I just started from scratch, which I did.

Damn laziness... I really want to work on Dart Ryudo.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on October 09, 2007, 10:05:10 AM
Whats stopping you?

All I am saying is when it comes to coding, dont just copy and paste what you see others are using. LEarn from it and kinda mess with it a bit to understand how certain lines and such works.

Also the DOCS are helpful and our best friend. How do you think a creator learned how to code?
Where do you think these coding templates forund in apps like MEE, ZchadMaker, Fighter Factory and other mugen character frontend creators? Some one apparently find the docs useful.

the only thing you have to do is read and experiment, thats all. And Patience is the biggest key to become a potential mugen creator.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on October 09, 2007, 12:18:47 PM
What's stopping me? Sorting out my ideas and laziness.

I won't copy and paste large parts of code, maybe only a few lines here and there as supplementation. Not to say that's all I'll do with it.

Oh, and Dart Ryudo's a Sol Badguy edit.

At the very least, I can do some basic coding, and I've taken some looks at the docs before. For the most part, it isn't a matter of not knowing how to code, moreso what method I would use and getting ideas together.

So, yeah... I'm gonna have give him to you annnnd I want it back by Saturday, completely done. Along with those TPS reports.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: shootYr. on October 12, 2007, 11:39:42 PM
Its really a shame. Im an Open source abuser. But I love making edits and releases to you all.
Should I feel Bad that I have abused KFM?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on October 18, 2007, 11:17:48 AM
I used Acey's code to make Hobgoblin . Acey granted me permission to use the Green Goblin . I totally resprited the character to make him look like Hobgoblin & changed the moves around & did some new looking intros . I don't really see what's wrong with that ? Come Halloween when I release him we will then have 2 of the Goblins . Somebody should make the Demogoblin , I don't have time I have other projects going on ! 

It's guys like this that people should be worried about the most....



He took Loganir's Thor & Hannibal's Superman & put some blood on them . Now he is calling them "rare" zombie characters so he can trade them . I mean doesn't this go against what the rules of the community ? The Demon (MarvelvsDCU) who actually made some decent edits of things is a total outcast of the Mugen community . But this nimrod KingAnon still runs free with no bad rep . How does that make any sense ?

Shouldn't you be more worried about an @$$hole like Anon than someone who is actually making a totally different character & it turns out decent ?

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/millionflash.gif)

Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on October 18, 2007, 12:59:06 PM
I really don't see how he relates to Infinity other than a) he's another twit on the internet and b)...actually there is no B. A is good enough. Just write him off and move on, there's already one discussion thread for that subject anyway.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on October 18, 2007, 01:01:56 PM
@ Alexziq I mean I am not defending him . I'm just saying he actually resprited Hulk 2099 to make him look like Killer Croc . He actually put work into something & made it different . anon just recolors something & calls it his .

The whole selling on ebay is pretty bad . but I don't think this new seller is him . 

@ Kung Fu Man  which twit are you talking about ? I mentioned 2 .

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/millionflash.gif)
 
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: A! on October 18, 2007, 01:03:32 PM
@ Alexziq I mean I am not defending him . I'm just saying he actually resprited Hulk 2099 to make him look like Killer Croc . He actually put work into something & made it different . anon just recolors something & calls it his .

The whole selling on ebay is pretty bad . but I don't think this new seller is him . 

@ Kung Fu Man  which twit are you talking about ? I mentioned 2 .

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/millionflash.gif)
 

.....~X(
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on October 19, 2007, 08:36:41 AM
Unless you're stating if you're open source or not or pointing out someone else is, the discussion doesn't really go here ALEXZIQ/DARKTALBAIN :|
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Alexziq on October 19, 2007, 08:59:34 AM
Unless you're stating if you're open source or not or pointing out someone else is, the discussion doesn't really go here ALEXZIQ/DARKTALBAIN :|

 :thumbsup:

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Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on October 19, 2007, 06:57:58 PM
I want to ask about an open source . You know that unfinished Guyver character that came out ? Is that character open source ?

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/millionflash.gif)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TehDemon on October 22, 2007, 03:42:12 PM
I used Acey's code to make Hobgoblin . Acey granted me permission to use the Green Goblin . I totally resprited the character to make him look like Hobgoblin & changed the moves around & did some new looking intros . I don't really see what's wrong with that ? Come Halloween when I release him we will then have 2 of the Goblins . Somebody should make the Demogoblin , I don't have time I have other projects going on ! 

It's guys like this that people should be worried about the most....



He took Loganir's Thor & Hannibal's Superman & put some blood on them . Now he is calling them "rare" zombie characters so he can trade them . I mean doesn't this go against what the rules of the community ? The Demon (MarvelvsDCU) who actually made some decent edits of things is a total outcast of the Mugen community . But this nimrod KingAnon still runs free with no bad rep . How does that make any sense ?

Shouldn't you be more worried about an @$$hole like Anon than someone who is actually making a totally different character & it turns out decent ?

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/millionflash.gif)



just so everyone's clear, The Demon mentioned here =/= me. I'm a different person.

Also, is that One Winged Angel guy open source? You know, the guy who made MvC Hulk and MvC Warmachine
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on October 23, 2007, 04:44:29 PM
I just wanted to clarify something right quick about my materials being open source.

All of my past releases that are now available are free to be used for whatever reason in relation to this open source thread.

However,

The materials used in my SxC full game when a prototype is released are not to be used for open source purposes in reference to the custom/original graphic sprites and some coding for the game. there is no need for me to allow the characters to be open source since they are from open source packs anyway but the coding for this game alone are not along with the custom screenpack graphics and life bar design  or whatever that is posted in my threads wip section on my forum or whatever I may show here.

Most likely if I come across a code or develop something new that might help others coding wise, I normally would update my coding section of the site and share the info here in infinity.

Not being an butt but until the full game is fully completed or close to it, I may decide to allow it but as for now, please respect my wishes.
Why am I all of a sudden saying this you may ask, Something was brought to my attention and I also have other reasons I would like to keep to myself.

Thanks for reading and understanding.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: A! on October 23, 2007, 04:57:13 PM
I just wanted to clarify something right quick about my materials being open source.

All of my past releases that are now available are free to be used for whatever reason in relation to this open source thread.

However,

The materials used in my SxC full game when a prototype is released are not to be used for open source purposes in reference to the custom/original graphic sprites and some coding for the game. there is no need for me to allow the characters to be open source since they are from open source packs anyway but the coding for this game alone are not along with the custom screenpack graphics and life bar design  or whatever that is posted in my threads wip section on my forum or whatever I may show here.

Most likely if I come across a code or develop something new that might help others coding wise, I normally would update my coding section of the site and share the info here in infinity.

Not being an @$$ but until the full game is fully completed or close to it, I may decide to allow it but as for now, please respect my wishes.
Why am I all of a sudden saying this you may ask, Something was brought to my attention and I also have other reasons I would like to keep to myself.

Thanks for reading and understanding.

you aint being an butt  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on October 23, 2007, 04:59:49 PM
understood no problem here.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: b.easy on October 23, 2007, 09:45:51 PM
all of my stages and future character releases are open source.  :(|)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on October 24, 2007, 08:15:13 PM
I have a tiny question for you all...are KGenjuro´s characters open source?
I know his Hanzo is offline...
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: StarXS on October 25, 2007, 04:43:45 PM
I think mulambø's stuff is open source... http://orimuga.bdimension.net/downchars_ita.html

Quote
All files here proposed are free. I mean: you can do what you want with them (release, modify, edit, use, etc.), you don't need to ask me. Any contradicting word you may find in one of the files you download should be ignored.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: darkgouken on October 28, 2007, 05:30:29 PM
ss5ace told that his stuff can open sourced :).
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Hattori hanzo on October 29, 2007, 09:36:20 AM
I have a tiny question for you all...are KGenjuro´s characters open source?
I know his Hanzo is offline...
i belive so.. i edit his hanzo and got it up for grabs
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on October 29, 2007, 04:22:39 PM
NO he is not open source: He's still got some of his works online, and removed the rest in objection to the state of the community. He's still very much present online too.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: b.easy on October 29, 2007, 04:40:21 PM
Quote from: Kameryu by KGenjuro's readme
PLEASE, DO NOT MODIFY THE CHARACTER-SET!!!
YOU CAN EXPLORE OR TAKE SMALL PARTS OF IT TO CREATE
AN OWN M.U.G.E.N.-CHARACTER, BUT DON´T MODIFY THE
ORIGINAL CHARACTER!
i always thought this was his stance on things, though i'm pretty sure a couple of his works may fall under the completely edited works category, like the MSpaint samurai.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kung Fu Man on October 30, 2007, 01:59:15 PM
Thanks for finding that bit. But yeah, even the fact he isn't offline completely rules him out for falling under the open source rules (I should know, I went through a little work to try and host his older stuff).
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Mature4evr on October 31, 2007, 06:27:04 PM
Quote from: Mature4evr on RandomSelect
I request that my moniker be removed from its current standpoint, and placed in the opposing list.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: interlopher on November 05, 2007, 11:30:19 PM
First as a potential newbie creator let me say thank you to everyone who is making his or her works open source. Second out of curiosity how long has Kuro's site been down and his or her works been off line?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TrunkJunky on November 19, 2007, 01:55:07 AM
Okay, here's my 1.5 cents as a stage creator:

As of right now only 2 of my stages are open source:

~Sky Rail
~Stardust Zone (Past)

All other stages, future stages, and characters made by me will be closed source (unless otherwise specified).

http://www.freewebs.com/trunkjunky/
Title: To those that has my leaked Dragon Guy
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on November 20, 2007, 05:27:37 PM
I know some people on Infinity has him. DARKTALBAIN is one of them and possibly a few more.

Quote
Life definatley goes on & mine will with a dragon guy in my roster

http://thehiddenelect.com/forum/index.php?topic=1752.msg23942#msg23942

That is not Open Source.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: RiceZilla on November 20, 2007, 05:42:16 PM
He got leaked. O_O
This always happens to the Shin/Orochi/Evil/LOL Characters..+when you make vids on youtube.   :DxDie

Suggestion:
Just don't give out private betas.  ;D
Or email it to them instead of hosting it on a server.. ;D

Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on November 20, 2007, 05:51:31 PM
I know how it got leaked and it was my fault due to me experimenting with a forum feature some months back, so its mostly my fault and I am not blaming anyone for my carelessness.

Since I announced my works as open source, Dragon Guy, the leaked version, does not fall in that category.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: RiceZilla on November 20, 2007, 06:18:38 PM
Well he was leaked if your a leecher im pretty sure..you know where to find him.
There isn't really anything he can do to stop you from getting it.  If you respect him you will just wait for it to be released.

But i don't know if hes gonna release it after this.  >:D
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on November 20, 2007, 06:19:43 PM
Out of respect I would ask you not to, but I can't stop you.

Its barely a month old beta anyways so I don't care. He is on hold anyway until I decide to finish him.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: A! on November 20, 2007, 06:23:43 PM
Out of respect I would ask you not to, but I can't stop you.

Its barely a month old beta anyways so I don't care. He is on hold anyway until I decide to finish him.

ye i respect you a'll just wait for you release and btw was it bloodninja who put in on the forum?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: RiceZilla on November 20, 2007, 06:33:27 PM
Blood Ninja is a member here?.. /:)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: (sic) on November 20, 2007, 06:41:37 PM
 >:-(-| Question:  

can i host Heartburnkid mugen stuff............im gettin a lot of request in my page (raw stage ,smackdown screenpack) so i tryed to mail him but his email doesnt exist anymore and his stuff been offline long time a go.



Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: RiceZilla on November 20, 2007, 06:43:48 PM
>:-(-| Question:  

can i host Heartburnkid mugen stuff............im gettin a lot of request in my page (raw stage ,smackdown screenpack) so i tryed to mail him but his email doesnt exist anymore and his stuff been offline long time a go.
No.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on November 20, 2007, 06:46:30 PM
Out of respect I would ask you not to, but I can't stop you.

Its barely a month old beta anyways so I don't care. He is on hold anyway until I decide to finish him.

ye i respect you a'll just wait for you release and btw was it bloodninja who put in on the forum?

I don't know. I was  a member of that forum just being on the low since they didnt know I already had an account there. I basically witnessed it when it happened. I was pissed at first but then I basically was like, Oh well, crap happens after I realized the possibility of how it was leaked, and it wasn't the beta testers I had.

So now im like Whatever and they can enjoy that old version of him if they wanted it so badly. (Points to the line of my Sig)

They are worse than T-Virus infected Zombies craving for blood just like when pregnant women starts craving for certain foods.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: (sic) on November 20, 2007, 06:48:23 PM
>:-(-| Question:  

can i host Heartburnkid mugen stuff............im gettin a lot of request in my page (raw stage ,smackdown screenpack) so i tryed to mail him but his email doesnt exist anymore and his stuff been offline long time a go.
No.

 :DxDie
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KPT25 on November 20, 2007, 07:01:12 PM
ye i respect you a'll just wait for you release and btw was it bloodninja who put in on the forum?
... <_<|...| <_<|...| <_<|...| <_<|...|
It sucks that this beta was leaked Syn,glad you kept yourself cool and didn`t freak out and quit like others
The only reason i`d dl him is to provide potential feedback that wasn`t taken in mind already...so we can eventually help  Syn to perfect Dragon Guy :-??

EDIT:he was the guy who made The Rock and Stone Cold for Mugen right?it would be very good for your site being able to host his stuff...i don`t remember if that creator was applicable or not...
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: (sic) on November 20, 2007, 07:31:05 PM


EDIT:he was the guy who made The Rock and Stone Cold for Mugen right?it would be very good for your site being able to host his stuff...i don`t remember if that creator was applicable or not...

he has been offline and cant contact him .........so hes stuff are opensource due to the rules.....right?

 >:-(-|  or someone should make a page to host all offline open source stuff............this would help a lot in the request section..
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Marancv on November 22, 2007, 05:52:32 PM
i havent get really deep in this of the opensource. but i wanna ask if MetaGouki's furious ken is OK to take material from?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on November 22, 2007, 08:06:45 PM
@tupac WTF i never even mentioned dragonguy.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Fallen_Angel on November 28, 2007, 11:14:37 AM
You shall add Cirio to the opensource, a friend of mine send him an e-mail asking if he was opensource and here its the answer

Quote from: cirio
Hi, sorry for the late answer. Of course it's open source and you're free to
edit them.

Cirio.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Retire4ever!!! on January 09, 2008, 02:51:06 AM
You shall add Cirio to the opensource, a friend of mine send him an e-mail asking if he was opensource and here its the answer

Quote from: cirio
Hi, sorry for the late answer. Of course it's open source and you're free to
edit them.

Cirio.
nice, then I can create some of my svc/kof characters while referring on his creation as tutorials, great for making kof characters :) but for warusaki3's work, just only the cvs2 characters need to ask him but for his kof/svc creations, does that means that I could use his work without asking him?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Jessica Smoke on March 10, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
well..I do Open source the next chars by me...(the recently versions)
Steven Seagal ver6.2
SFTM Ken
Hunter Killer 6.1 ;)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Scar on March 10, 2008, 08:13:56 PM
My Deejay, Balrog and Dan are opensource. (atleast mention me :-")

Feel free to use them if you like..
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on March 12, 2008, 02:51:27 PM
Does anybody know the status of GM?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: kamekaze on March 26, 2008, 09:51:55 PM
his are open source with permission only
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on March 27, 2008, 07:55:38 AM
what about ahuron, dala and beppu?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: DarkValentine on April 24, 2008, 12:10:49 AM
You can add me to the list, because any stage I make, and has made so far, is currently Open Source
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: shootYr. on April 27, 2008, 11:28:04 AM
Im Open Source As Well.  @^@
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ExShadow on April 30, 2008, 01:59:53 PM
does anyone know if door henge is open source
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Fallen_Angel on May 08, 2008, 01:57:19 PM
Does anyone know if tin is opensource??
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Acey on May 30, 2008, 10:28:41 AM
I edited the first post. When this thread was first started it was a simply list creators who declared themselves as open source, since that time "rules" had been added that I particularly do not agree with and as such, I added a preamble to clarify Infinity's possition on the matter.

Preamble: Below is a list of circumctances that was agreed upon by various individuals in the Mugen community not particularly affiliated with Infinity. It is understood that you may edit any Mugen character for your own private use but if you end up using any creators material without permission for public use (even if the creator is gone from mugen for any length of time) you will be held responsible for any negative ramifications of your actions. As far as Infinity is concerned, a years absence is NOT enough time to consider a work abandoned. - Acey 05/30/08
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 02, 2008, 01:42:10 AM
Anyone have any information on if EEno (sometimes known as NeoType) is open source? His Orochi Chris and Kain have no readmes, he has no site (I'm only finding Youtube videos and esnips folders), no way to contact him, his Orochi Chris and Kain seem to be 5 years old going by the date modified on a lot of files (Kain's SND was modified 1/31/03, much of OChris modified in June 2003).

I'm looking to make a stage using a Kain sprite, so I'm asking before I do anything.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Hyper on June 04, 2008, 09:59:00 PM
Supermystery retired from mugen

and stated all his Public Chars are now open source

including majin vegeta ub22

Topic Stating So:

http://mugenlair.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,1849.0.html
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TomBewley on June 04, 2008, 10:02:04 PM
Just thought I'd mention that everything I do, unless stated otherwise, is open source

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Xenomic on July 05, 2008, 11:42:42 PM
I guess I should say this here too. All of my Patches that I do, unless stated otherwise, ARE open source (which means, yes, you can use all of the sprites from my patches).
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TehBazzard on July 17, 2008, 07:03:13 PM
I dunno if someone already said this but...
Warusaki3 DOES NOT allow American creators to edit/use work from his stuff WHATSOEVER. Even if you got permission from H', you can only use H's stuff. He however does allow Japanese creators to use his work. He's kinda discriminative about that.
XCB's stuff IS open-source actually. In all of his character's readme's (Except SS and Blaque) he mentions that if you want to use sprites/code, go ahead, but give credit. If it says other wise, it's because he couldn't update his readme seeing how he left the community. He mentioned that their freesource on RandomSelect.
P.o.t.s stuff is freesource to use code from and to edit, but you must let him know.
Reu's work (Sprites/Code/ETC) is now under holds from TMasta. You must contact him to confirm using his work.
Laxxe made his work closed source. Some guy stole code, so he closed his resources. You must ask him to use code.
You should modify this. Closed Source means that you must ask the creator for using their stuff. Open source means you can use it freely, just comply to the creator's rules and credit them.
So GM should be moved to close source.
Also, N64Mario has 2 templates which are open source. Acey and ReDHoT also made a MVC:EOH Template which is open-source.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on July 17, 2008, 07:25:09 PM
all that has been said before  8=|
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: TehBazzard on July 17, 2008, 10:02:59 PM
all that has been said before  8=|
I dunno if someone already said this but...
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Masato on July 21, 2008, 09:42:34 PM
Let me crush your hopes with this post.

I don't want anyone to use Reu's for anything, i let KFM host them as a mirror so noone has a reason to warehouse them either.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: shootYr. on August 03, 2008, 02:56:35 AM
Im Not Sure, But I Think Gonzo Is Open Source. On His Site It Says You Can Modify His Characters Without Asking Him. :O
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Warrior on October 03, 2008, 09:26:27 AM
X-boy's stuff is open source...
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Weapon x program on October 12, 2008, 11:44:15 AM
WARNER sprites are open source???
the guy working on klrt should use his sprites  ~X(
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ExShadow on October 19, 2008, 08:28:45 AM
oh okay thanks
Title: Re: Characters that are safe to edit and distribute
Post by: Yagoshi300 on October 28, 2008, 08:06:13 PM
Warner's stuff is completely open source.

Okay, we have confirmation.

hmm

if i have an idea to someone make a Kakuge Yaro styled Giant Chicken as well xD
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: fer619 on October 30, 2008, 06:32:43 PM
does anyone know if bytezero's creations are open source?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Dakangel on November 02, 2008, 01:53:44 AM
 :) hi hi,well well well all mugen stuff is debatible the ONLY private and not open source are the things made if not knowered from its existence like really really ORIGINAL creations i mean like the dragon claw or something else because evil ryu or ken are from capcom owners,BUUT EVERY OF US are violating many author laws like me with my screenpack or all those creators that not have permision for make a 3rd MARVELtm vs CAPCOMr game.
Also every MUGENtm player that not made an super original game with mega original characters are violating rights for the really ideas creators .
SO everything stoled from mugen creators are stoled for trademark companies sooo MUGEN itself is not open source but is open play.
Everyone can rip sprites,but the original ideas come from other minds.
Everyone can code but the codemakers are really ELECBYTE.
......burglar who steals thief takes 100 years of forgiveness......   ;)
(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/Themes/default/images/warnmute.gif) o.O
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: The <<Fsjal>> Conscript Who Came Back Alive on January 02, 2009, 12:09:05 PM
I think N64 Mario mentioned something after he stopped MUGEN that his works are now open source as they no longer being worked on.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: bdcirck on January 05, 2009, 05:18:54 AM
I consider my Character scriptings to be open source and every spritesheet that I release/ publish. I rather have people editing my work and make it public then that they edit my work and keep it private. Everything that I consider to be private will not end up on the internet.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Don Drago on January 18, 2009, 08:14:20 AM
I'll clarify something about my works:

1 - People should read the readme <_<|...|
2 - "Wide Open Source" in my work says: "it's open source, but, if you use, you MUST provide something open source in exchange". Last line of readme.

Let's say: you take my Takuma's edited sprites. Ok, then. Now you'll provide other thing (maybe Gunter's sprites, KOF NeoWave default hit & super sparks, KOF XI sounds, Gravity throw code, or anything else) for the comunity. I'll NOT seek or policy that. But that's a nice thing to do: "take a free one, give a free one"
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Weapon x program on January 18, 2009, 09:40:10 AM
I'll clarify something about my works:

1 - People should read the readme <_<|...|
2 - "Wide Open Source" in my work says: "it's open source, but, if you use, you MUST provide something open source in exchange". Last line of readme.

Let's say: you take my Takuma's edited sprites. Ok, then. Now you'll provide other thing (maybe Gunter's sprites, KOF NeoWave default hit & super sparks, KOF XI sounds, Gravity throw code, or anything else) for the comunity. I'll NOT seek or policy that. But that's a nice thing to do: "take a free one, give a free one"
i wish everyone was as smart as you.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on January 18, 2009, 10:18:28 AM
I think N64 Mario mentioned something after he stopped MUGEN that his works are now open source as they no longer being worked on.

WHAT!?!?

Off topic:If this is true,I'm gonna work on his Master Hand!
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Scar on January 18, 2009, 04:40:41 PM
Nope you need to ask N64Mario permission to use his stuff.

He more than likely give you permission but he is not open source.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: O Ilusionista on January 18, 2009, 05:45:06 PM
Nope you need to ask N64Mario permission to use his stuff.

He more than likely give you permission but he is not open source.


Yes, he will...but he told to me that he is tired of people keeping asking for authorization
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Reza on January 18, 2009, 05:59:49 PM
I don't know if i mentioned this before, but my characters coding are open source. :O*D
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: whey004 on April 08, 2009, 12:54:24 AM
http://www.ioffer.com/i/-Everything-Vs-Everything-2D-Fighting-Game-MUGEN-3-DVDs-35195436 (http://www.ioffer.com/i/-Everything-Vs-Everything-2D-Fighting-Game-MUGEN-3-DVDs-35195436)

this bunghole is selling mugen on i-offer 

Post Merge: April 08, 2009, 01:26:05 AM
hey it wasn't me who is selling this and i'm not promoting it, i actually hate the idea that somebody is earning some money on compilation of mugen works that is not his. it's suppose to be just a fan base and the creator of certain mugen chars/stages/etc should decide wheather he/she will sell it and thats if he can have some sort of license from capcom/electibite. 
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Mazta on June 03, 2009, 10:05:27 AM
http://www.ioffer.com/i/-Everything-Vs-Everything-2D-Fighting-Game-MUGEN-3-DVDs-35195436 (http://www.ioffer.com/i/-Everything-Vs-Everything-2D-Fighting-Game-MUGEN-3-DVDs-35195436)

this bunghole is selling mugen on i-offer 

Post Merge: April 08, 2009, 01:26:05 AM
hey it wasn't me who is selling this and i'm not promoting it, i actually hate the idea that somebody is earning some money on compilation of mugen works that is not his. it's suppose to be just a fan base and the creator of certain mugen chars/stages/etc should decide wheather he/she will sell it and thats if he can have some sort of license from capcom/electibite. 

i agree with you that bunghole has no idea wat the heck he is doin in ioffer
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Warrior on June 24, 2009, 02:17:04 PM
I think X-boy should be added to the list of creators who's stuff is opensourced.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: fer619 on June 24, 2009, 05:41:55 PM
all my mugen stuff is also open source
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: dragoon316 on July 12, 2009, 03:10:05 PM
All of my characters *.CNS, *.ST, *.CMD, and *.SND files is open source. Sprites for those characters (including M.B. and Dana Shotoman), you need to talk to me first.

Fara Phoenix, on the other hand, EVERYTHING (including sprites), are open sources.

That is all.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Kojunho on July 25, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
All my work is open source. No credit needed. Feel free to edit them. Any one of them at all.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: xPreatorianx on July 25, 2009, 06:11:29 PM
My works (Shin2 atm) are partial Opensource. The opensource stuff is all the coding/sounds sprites/FX are not. Even tho my works that are out are beta's they still have some decent code in the beta's. But Coding/Sounds are opensource Sprites are not. But I will grant through a Permission.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Rage on March 20, 2013, 09:20:49 PM
 Rock Volnutt by Maitake is this open?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on March 20, 2013, 09:26:42 PM
Rock Volnutt by Maitake is this open?

Le sigh, the answer is unfortunately no. We tried to get him for RMM but he didn't want his work being hosted or used. He's afraid of Capcom coming after him. We explained Capcom's stance on the matter but he didn't budge.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Acey on March 20, 2013, 10:14:38 PM
That was quite a few years ago now though, maybe asking again might have a different result.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Rage on March 20, 2013, 10:19:59 PM
That was quite a few years ago now though, maybe asking again might have a different result.
assume that someone on this team must know or able to reach him. can we try contacting him again? i was looking at his roll sprites.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on March 20, 2013, 10:23:11 PM
assume that someone on this team must know or able to reach him. can we try contacting him again? i was looking at his roll sprites.

Get with Laspacho, he made contact when we tried before.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Dragon of Courage on March 20, 2013, 11:42:40 PM
Is ExShadow's stuff open-source or needs permission to use?
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: MGMURROW on March 21, 2013, 01:27:42 AM
You can add my works to the NOT OPEN SOURCE list.

MGMURROW
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: esn23 on March 21, 2013, 02:38:43 AM
Please add my works to not open sourse
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: laspacho on March 27, 2013, 05:57:14 PM
Get with Laspacho, he made contact when we tried before.

I did contact Maitake on 7/25/11 about Volnutt and he refused.  I still have the e-mail actually.  You guys are right it has been a while so I just sent him another e-mail asking about it again.  We'll see what happens this time.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: navs41 on March 30, 2013, 08:08:41 PM
Navs41 - NOT OPEN SOURCE.

Best topic ever. :)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on March 30, 2013, 08:16:20 PM
HyperSonic92 - Only if you have permission
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: laspacho on March 31, 2013, 01:54:36 PM
assume that someone on this team must know or able to reach him. can we try contacting him again? i was looking at his roll sprites.

I tried to contact him one last time and he declined.  Sorry.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Twinimage on March 31, 2013, 03:59:30 PM
Twinimage - Sprites aren't open source. Took too much work to let someone else mess with them. Sorry. :(
Code - The way I see it, I didn't "create" the code, I just used it as a tool to make my characters playable. I want to say open source, but some pieces were given to me by fellow Project X members. So please ask which parts you want to use.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: RG op on April 01, 2013, 04:22:16 PM
RG_Op
with my previous permission
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Arkady on April 01, 2013, 04:25:01 PM
Arkadyrossovitch (aka Arch_)
permission needed
but otherwise NOT open source
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ZVitor on April 01, 2013, 05:59:07 PM
"ZVitor is opensource?"
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f4a4aeb269d94e79ce4b9fba5716dc60/tumblr_mff1txlfPu1rs7k3ko1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Snakebyte on April 01, 2013, 06:04:59 PM
Not that I have much work to speak of yet, but for future reference, please ask first.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: O Ilusionista on April 01, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
"ZVitor is opensource?"
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f4a4aeb269d94e79ce4b9fba5716dc60/tumblr_mff1txlfPu1rs7k3ko1_500.jpg)

THIS, hahahahaha
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Warrior on March 16, 2014, 04:27:46 AM
Last I checked, Xboy's sprites are open sourced, no?
Don't recall the source of this..but I'm not trying to spread misinformation.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Trinitronity on March 16, 2014, 05:51:15 AM
Okay, could someone please tell me why this exists?
I'm mainly asking this because I think the idea of some things being not open-source and the idea of permission very stupid. If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it. It's really that easy.
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 16, 2014, 10:50:15 AM
Okay, could someone please tell me why this exists?
I'm mainly asking this because I think the idea of some things being not open-source and the idea of permission very stupid. If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it. It's really that easy.
Its not that easy. Some communities accepts it, some note. The idea is half right, half wrong.
For me, its just a matter of to have RESPECT and GOOD SENSE. Its polite to at least check with the creator about it, or at least to CREDIT him for that.
On cases of custom made stuff (like sprites), this is more delicated. Always contact the creator, at least is what I think.

The "If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it." rule is BS. There are many things on the internet that you can't simple modify as you want to.
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on March 16, 2014, 11:01:32 AM
Wow... I really can't believe what I'm seeing....

Well while it is good to ask permission, which of course it is. i for one go by my own code with using someone else's stuff.

For example, someone's sprites... If I know you enough, I might ask out of respect, but if I don't, I will atleast credit you and let it be known that you were the one who did the sprites....

However if I'm the one who did all the coding from scratch, haha I'm sorry but its partly mine too because of all of the work I put into it as well. Especially if I took the sprites of the character and made it play amazing...

Regardless of how some may feel, there are alot of characters out there that just dont play good at all, and this is needed inorder for someone to fix them and make them play awesome. And some creators just are too stubborn to let you have permission to use their sprites.

I would atleast release the character like this "Ryu by R@CE & Blah Bah" so both would get credit if I haven't contacted the author.

Its all about that credit, but at the end of the day, its up to you to do that.

Also, I would never edit or release another version of something no where near the same time as the original author has released their version of there character. Its just rude to do so and plain out BS.
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: verz36 on March 16, 2014, 11:04:50 AM
add me to the list of not open source please... :)
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on March 16, 2014, 11:17:20 AM
Hey, The King Sic-1 here....

Nothing i do is open source, I do have some exceptions tho.

I have had some great creators here in mugen come and ask me if they can use some of my stuff, and they can tell you, i usually say yes.
and I thank them for having the respect to ask me. thanks guys! you know who you are.

but on the other hand.... there are some people that will never be allowed to use my work.... ever....

i guess my stand on this is.... it's not that hard to ask someone if its OK to use their work.

I understand what R@ce is saying when it comes to character patches.

Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Trinitronity on March 16, 2014, 11:32:50 AM
Its not that easy. Some communities accepts it, some note. The idea is half right, half wrong.
For me, its just a matter of to have RESPECT and GOOD SENSE. Its polite to at least check with the creator about it, or at least to CREDIT him for that.
On cases of custom made stuff (like sprites), this is more delicated. Always contact the creator, at least is what I think.

The "If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it." rule is BS. There are many things on the internet that you can't simple modify as you want to.
Like I said, I don't really see the idea behind permission as something clever. However, I do think that the creator needs to be credited. Yes, CREDITED, but not more. As long as the user uses stuff from the creator for WORKSAFE things, crediting the creator IS enough to show respect to the creator, because crediting the creator means that that is was in fact the CREATOR who did it, and NOT the user of the creation.
Permission, on the other hand, is just nonsense and not useful, because there are still people, who ignore ask for permission. And there is nothing that can be done against that, because it's FAN art. I know that stealing the work of someone else is stupid shouldn't be tolerated, but crediting someone is enough, and the "DON'T USE WITHOUT PERMISSION" will only encourage other people to exactly do the opposite, and since it's fan art, there is nothing that can be done against it.
Oh, and the "If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it." rule is NOT bull, but the only thing the creator can do if he doesn't want other people to use his creations, and it's extremely easy.
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Rage on March 16, 2014, 12:23:51 PM
Like I said, I don't really see the idea behind permission as something clever. However, I do think that the creator needs to be credited. Yes, CREDITED, but not more. As long as the user uses stuff from the creator for WORKSAFE things, crediting the creator IS enough to show respect to the creator, because crediting the creator means that that is was in fact the CREATOR who did it, and NOT the user of the creation.
Permission, on the other hand, is just nonsense and not useful, because there are still people, who ignore ask for permission. And there is nothing that can be done against that, because it's FAN art. I know that stealing the work of someone else is stupid shouldn't be tolerated, but crediting someone is enough, and the "DON'T USE WITHOUT PERMISSION" will only encourage other people to exactly do the opposite, and since it's fan art, there is nothing that can be done against it.
Oh, and the "If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it." rule is NOT bull, but the only thing the creator can do if he doesn't want other people to use his creations, and it's extremely easy.
You create stuff from scratch then maybe you'll change your tune.

I believe that permission should be sought because for custom works allot of heart goes into it. My works will be open source once i have releases and that is only because this is the the internet and there isn't much you can do to stop people. If it was a way to stop people then id ask people to seek permission because some people are not worthy/ skilled enough to touch my work.

And that bring up the second point. If you create something then someone comes behind you and turns it in to spit as a character artist/ Animator i would be highly offended. But again this is the net and what are you going to do. In the end it isn't worth the trouble. RL is what is important and this stuff here is nothing to lose sleep over. I carry a glass half full attitude because i grown allot since i started mugen. I've seen people come and go; People fall out. I've lost friends due to mugen. Its isn't worth the trouble and to lose a friend over this is asinine. People are irreplaceable; Above the mugen i cherish the connections i made with the people here. They may tee me off sometimes but disagreements are to be expected and welcomed because they allow us to expand your minds by seeing the world through someone else eyes.  So yeah people  will place rules on things that really don't hold water because  this is a hobby using other companies ip's. In the end its nothing to get your feelings hurt over because it isn't much you can do beyond not releasing publicly. We all have feeling over this matter but the rule can't be set in stone. The Saying is, "its going to happen". That means people  are probably going to using your material, expect it, and move on.
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Arkady on March 16, 2014, 12:52:52 PM
I don't see why someone can't just contact the creators of whatever first before releasing said re-work, true that crediting is the most important part of the process, but permission itself really is about respect enough to let that person know that whoever is going to take a stab at improvements on the work originally created, I say this coz I find some characters aren't entirely created by one person, and can ruffle features with work groups and projects

I mean why invest your time and effort and not be credited, or notified by whoever wishes to re create your work, most cases you'll see a "hell yeah, improve it for me" some cases a " no, I'm still updating that to be better"

I like to think that if a creator wants to work on something they can but pay respect enough to contact them about it, I've asked for "permission" plenty of times and usually if the creator can see an improvement from this they'll say yes

that said, open source rule is about communication, if you can't bother to respect that and hide behind "its the internet, it all free, why even bother" then good luck on making future relationships on help and trust within the communities in and around mugen,  I think it's just common sense
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: dev. on March 16, 2014, 01:21:44 PM
I don't see why someone can't just contact the creators of whatever first before releasing said re-work, true that crediting is the most important part of the process, but permission itself really is about respect enough to let that person know that whoever is going to take a stab at improvements on the work originally created, I say this coz I find some characters aren't entirely created by one person, and can ruffle features with work groups and projects

I mean why invest your time and effort and not be credited, or notified by whoever wishes to re create your work, most cases you'll see a "hell yeah, improve it for me" some cases a " no, I'm still updating that to be better"

I like to think that if a creator wants to work on something they can but pay respect enough to contact them about it, I've asked for "permission" plenty of times and usually if the creator can see an improvement from this they'll say yes

that said, open source rule is about communication, if you can't bother to respect that and hide behind "its the internet, it all free, why even bother" then good luck on making future relationships on help and trust within the communities in and around mugen,  I think it's just common sense

Well, my friend, you should ask your friends from MMV why. I'm also curious to know why is so hard to ask for permission.
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: jax123 on March 16, 2014, 01:33:03 PM
Hey guys i'm jax123 AKA max007
Nope i'm sorry,i can't help you with the open source,i'm sometimes help with my friends from CC (ONLY CC :rules:)
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Skeletor-EX on March 16, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
This is ridiculous... smh  You guys are still following this old rule? Once you post something on the internet, you can't dictate wtf someone else does with it. If you don't want it used, don't release it! As long as the editor credits you for the release in the first place, that should be respect enough. At least your name is on it as the originator of the work. All this "You can't use my stuff" crap is idiotic. And like Trinitronity said, it's not gonna do anything but encourage the opposite! Yall need stop with all this. It's nonsense. And if people don't credit you, yeah it's messed up, but that's the chance you take when releasing things! Surely you guys have to know this. Thinking that everyone's gonna follow this unnecessary and ridiculous rule is beyond delusional. Your're fooling yourselves...
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Rage on March 16, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I don't see why someone can't just contact the creators of whatever first before releasing said re-work, true that crediting is the most important part of the process, but permission itself really is about respect enough to let that person know that whoever is going to take a stab at improvements on the work originally created, I say this coz I find some characters aren't entirely created by one person, and can ruffle features with work groups and projects

I mean why invest your time and effort and not be credited, or notified by whoever wishes to re create your work, most cases you'll see a "hell yeah, improve it for me" some cases a " no, I'm still updating that to be better"

I like to think that if a creator wants to work on something they can but pay respect enough to contact them about it, I've asked for "permission" plenty of times and usually if the creator can see an improvement from this they'll say yes

that said, open source rule is about communication, if you can't bother to respect that and hide behind "its the internet, it all free, why even bother" then good luck on making future relationships on help and trust within the communities in and around mugen,  I think it's just common sense
^^(PM)^ Thats life you speak of good ...Sir/ Lady. Many people just throw people under the bus for there own goals/ to obtain success.   they can became successful but it is often a hard path and most often end up alone. Its all about networking and respect. And it is not common since those days. This world is very negative and value are becoming relics of the past.
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on March 16, 2014, 01:54:31 PM
Lets be real, as long as it isn't your character that isn't being edited/sprites being used etc... You wouldn't care not one bit.If its something you find awesome and you like the way it plays, your going to download it and keep it. And I know this for a fact....

Here's my points on the matter (Only read if you want to)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Skeletor-EX on March 16, 2014, 02:11:29 PM
I'm more than positive that NONE of you creators asked Capcom, SNK, etc to rip ANY of their sprites from their respective games. The very fact that you've even done that means you don't even follow your own rule! I'm sure they never meant for any of YOU to take their work and edit it as you please, yet they don't seem to mind much at all. Cause if they did, we'd all be shut down, or they'd be trying to shut things down. Like I said in my earlier comment, you people are fooling yourselves. Take credit where credit is due. Once you put something on the web, it's no longer really yours. It's the worlds... That is unless you have a patent on it. Which none of you do... smh... Ridiculous...
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Arkady on March 16, 2014, 02:34:00 PM
Vaild points here race, you most probably right regarding who actually does care when it comes to whoever gets the work remade by another, but then again there isn't an actual site or persons that go around policing the content, on behalf of the original author

the discussion of open source gets brought up, generally when there's a rejection in permission somewhere in the world of the mugen communities,
I find it's really not a major issue, if I can't work on something,my example is blob by mythsoftyboo, and magus, asked for permission, magus said no, coz still working it, I'm cool with that, doesn't mean I'll go ahead to do it, just coz the internets accessible enough to get what I need, to do it regardless, I would rather ask later on with a sort of blessing you might say, hell it might be more updated, of the author wishes to hand it off, but you would never know if you never bother to at least contact for permission in the first place, many instances I've come across situations just like that, not all my work is started by me.

I know the issue is that there is creators who don't want their work edited period, and like it has been stayed many times over on these threads, I kinda see i, there F'all that can be done about it, many creators wonder why they should bother releasing their work, if its going to fiddled with improvements or not, I'm not going to say I'm one of them, but I'd like to think that there are creators that, would like to know what's happening to their own original creation that they worked hard to create for the general public to enjoy, regardless whether they give their blessing, maybe like r@ce pointed out a certain time passes, a full 2-3 years and it can be (as capcoms creations for an, example) automatic open source, I see that as fair game, its happened regardless of permissions and if updates were going to done, the author would have done them by then, I don't see a problem, but as I said I rather still like to know, not for permissions sake just more for any extra help or added work yet to be implemented, its great to see others improve on past works, ad long as it is actually an improvement

some of you folks are really harping on with the whole rule sux, but its not a big deal, be who you be, if you wanna create something do it, just pay respects, or "credits" but don't hide behind internet's my free right to do whatever, and preach about it, everyone works differently, and they have different views on creation, every 3-6 months there's some discussion about "permissions"  just do or don't, make up up your own mind on that, and create, don't preach, and keep off my wave (my favorite sound garden song ....religion, beliefs whatever, keep off my wave)
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Skeletor-EX on March 16, 2014, 02:51:14 PM
So... I see you haven't addressed my last comment yet Mr. Arch. Hmm... What can you really say against it? I'd love to know...
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on March 16, 2014, 02:56:37 PM
Oh don't worry, because no matter what, I'm going to do what I do best. And I'm not asking unless I feel the need to ask for permission.

Plus I never took all of this stuff seriously anyway because of what I just said and believe in.

This whole thread was made to begin with because others thought it was big deal to them to let people know who is closed source and who isn't.

Not saying you were talking directly to me nor am I taking it like you were but just to let everyone know I wasn't preaching,  I was merely sharing my views on the matter is all because others were. Besides others who were against open source were doing just as much "Preaching" as others.

I felt as though I had to prove my points as well, so that is why I said read if you want to

And I didn't realize we were on anyone's wave, I thought this was merely a discussion. lol

Just sayin....
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Arkady on March 16, 2014, 04:39:15 PM
nah Race I wasn't talking about yourself, was talking in general when it come to these threads that get hi-jacked by the rebellious rule-haters :D I see It on most sites I visit, but like I see most of the points that brought up, and yeah they make sense, and proves hypocrits of everyone who get upset when they get their work used (or abused) all i'm sayin is pretty much what you said already, do whatever you feel is best, its really the work your crediting not the creator

skelotor-X not sure what you your asking me, maybe quote it so I can address it, not sure I need to though, i'm not really pro or con this discussion , i'm just bored and having a "lando-esk" essay-a-thon to pass the time
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Skeletor-EX on March 16, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
nah Race I wasn't talking about yourself, was talking in general when it come to these threads that get hi-jacked by the rebellious rule-haters :D I see It on most sites I visit, but like I see most of the points that brought up, and yeah they make sense, and proves hypocrits of everyone who get upset when they get their work used (or abused) all i'm sayin is pretty much what you said already, do whatever you feel is best, its really the work your crediting not the creator

skelotor-X not sure what you your asking me, maybe quote it so I can address it, not sure I need to though, i'm not really pro or con this discussion , i'm just bored and having a "lando-esk" essay-a-thon to pass the time

Scroll up to my previous comments about not asking permission to use any of Capcom's or SNK's sprites. It's all there...
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Arkady on March 16, 2014, 05:04:55 PM
i'm pretty sure that's all "open-source" so I still don't get what you want me to answer

listen i'm not looking for a debate, I just viewed my opinion, as did everyone else, I never made the rules, but I respect them, even if it has its flaws, regardless, I know I can make creations without needing to use someone's else's work now, and if I don't I'll ask purely to show respect to the work.
i'm really not out to quote scripture or create a tablet of commandments, do whatever tickles your fancy and have fun, just be respectful to those who don't "believe" in the same thing, otherwise we'll once again create another mugen religion debate
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Skeletor-EX on March 16, 2014, 05:19:42 PM
i'm pretty sure that's all "open-source" so I still don't get what you want me to answer

listen i'm not looking for a debate, I just viewed my opinion, as did everyone else, I never made the rules, but I respect them, even if it has its flaws, regardless, I know I can make creations without needing to use someone's else's work now, and if I don't I'll ask purely to show respect to the work.
i'm really not out to quote scripture or create a tablet of commandments, do whatever tickles your fancy and have fun, just be respectful to those who don't "believe" in the same thing, otherwise we'll once again create another mugen religion debate

No debate necessary! It is what it is. I don't recall any of those companies saying their sprites were open source, yet people still rip them and use them anyway. All I'm saying asking is, how can these guys tell others not to use their works without permission, when they themselves are using the works of these companies? It's all nonsense. Respect is given once the original author is credited. Unless these creators start asking these companies for permission, they're hypocrites. And shouldn't be trying to enforce their rules upon the rest of us...
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Arkady on March 16, 2014, 05:54:39 PM
cool, looks like you've answered your own question, but as for the rule, it exists, either you can follow it and throw a temper tantrum every time someone posts about how fkd it is, or just don't follow it  and do whatever you believe, no ones gonna try and convert you into believing otherwise, through an mugen post thread, I see no "point" making points, its redundant, and getting boring :O*D
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Skeletor-EX on March 16, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
Temper tantrum?? lol This is amusing to me! Continue following these hypocritical rules. lol my point's been made, and is a fact that cannot be challenged... Peace! :)
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 16, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
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I'm more than positive that NONE of you creators asked Capcom, SNK, etc to rip ANY of their sprites from their respective games.
And here we go again. I keep hearing this kind of comment for about 14 years. And it keeps poping up...

GUYS, this topic is meant to be a record of who is opensource and who is not opensource on THIS forum.
Please, stop derailing the topic. Specially with things like FORUM X versus FORUM Y.

The topic was splitted.
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Arkady on March 16, 2014, 06:16:07 PM
geez O, 14 years and your still here, gotta love mugen
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 16, 2014, 06:18:28 PM
in fact, it will be 15 years at december :)
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Arkady on March 16, 2014, 06:27:14 PM
Awesome stuff
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on March 16, 2014, 06:57:49 PM
I can't believe all the posts got deleted......SMH

It wasn't even necessary, but then again... I'm not even surprised....
Title: Re: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Rage on March 16, 2014, 07:36:10 PM
I can't believe all the posts got deleted......SMH

It wasn't even necessary, but then again... I'm not even surprised....
Are you freaking serious!

Edit: Locking thread. Ill fix it.

Edit: thread repaired.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: Rage on March 16, 2014, 08:00:15 PM
So lets get back to the question that sparked this derailment since forum runs under the permission rule.

Last I checked, Xboy's sprites are open sourced, no?
Don't recall the source of this..but I'm not trying to spread misinformation.

So does anyone know? To my knowledge X is open to letting other use his work but contact letting him know of your usage. Its been a year or more since i read this some where so you probably want a better source of information. I dont travel outside imt much over the past few years.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: -Whiplash- on March 16, 2014, 10:18:51 PM
I guess Since I've made two things and working on a third right now I might as well state it.

My code is open source 100% I don't really care if you edit it or whatever, but it'd be nice if you could tell me.

My sprites on the other hand, are not. You will have to ask me.
Title: Re: People who's works are/aren't open source!
Post by: DEMONKAI on March 17, 2014, 12:49:49 AM
Any sprite edits ive done are fine to use for a base. It doesnt put food on my table at home or money in my pocket. BUT just be respectful to give credits to where the source came from. its common sense and a nice gesture.

Codes? nah hell no. have at it. ive come up with code methods on my own but im not big on claiming that stuff. I learned 85% of that stuff from various authors anyway. so it would be bright for anyone to learn from each other anyway they can with coding stuff
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