Post by: Acey on May 15, 2008, 12:05:05 AM
[youtube=425,350]8ogB2bDKBP8[/youtube]
Post by: aPoCaLyPsE on May 15, 2008, 12:09:06 AM
"...It's!?! It's Over 5000....?!
Ok, back to watching the video.. [-O<
EDIT: wow WOW WOW!!
Great Teaser Video Acey! Definently gets the point across.
-"aPoC."
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 15, 2008, 12:13:39 AM
I haven't even seen the whole video, just seen a picture of Punisher, and my excitement level increased 100+ fold!!If you wanna know my excitement about the update, here it is... it's over 9000!
"...It's!?! It's Over 5000+?!
Ok, back to watching the video.. [-O<
-"aPoC."
And Acey, about the playable beta, you talking about the one released on valentines day right?
Post by: Acey on May 15, 2008, 12:19:27 AM
I haven't even seen the whole video, just seen a picture of Punisher, and my excitement level increased 100+ fold!!If you wanna know my excitement about the update, here it is... it's over 9000!
"...It's!?! It's Over 5000+?!
Ok, back to watching the video.. [-O<
-"aPoC."
And Acey, about the playable beta, you talking about the one released on valentines day right?
Yup!
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on May 15, 2008, 01:11:46 AM
Post by: Spidercide on May 15, 2008, 01:29:46 AM
Can't wait until '09. ^^
Nice intro.
For the first time I feel like I am a part of something truly special. Heh.
Post by: ATiC3 on May 15, 2008, 01:42:33 AM
Post by: aPoCaLyPsE on May 15, 2008, 03:02:21 AM
This is gonna be sweet!
More like..."Monumental" ;)
-"aPoC."
Post by: The_Opn on May 15, 2008, 04:36:39 AM
Post by: eSkRo on May 15, 2008, 05:16:17 AM
Post by: Weapon x program on May 15, 2008, 07:17:14 AM
Post by: Zerok_116 on May 15, 2008, 07:21:43 AM
Post by: laspacho on May 15, 2008, 11:49:11 AM
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on May 15, 2008, 03:52:50 PM
Post by: Mugen Toons on May 15, 2008, 04:16:03 PM
Post by: Lord_Waffles on May 15, 2008, 04:58:14 PM
Post by: TomBewley on May 15, 2008, 05:03:16 PM
P.S I watch the video and I see two of my stages and I get all tingly inside with an "I made that" lol :-[
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 15, 2008, 05:57:51 PM
Post by: Darkgargos on May 15, 2008, 06:00:20 PM
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on May 15, 2008, 11:19:04 PM
You guys gonna reveal the others one by one from time to time right?
Post by: Marancv on May 16, 2008, 01:53:56 PM
Go infinity GO!
Post by: Cyclysm on May 16, 2008, 02:47:34 PM
This is epic.
Post by: Lothar-Ex on May 16, 2008, 02:49:52 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on May 16, 2008, 03:09:16 PM
Post by: BlizzardTora on May 16, 2008, 04:37:31 PM
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 17, 2008, 04:22:32 PM
Post by: Weapon x program on May 17, 2008, 04:26:15 PM
WOW amazing 70 chars this is going to be awesome ::salute:: ::salute:: :w00t: :thumbsup: :w00t: ::salute:: ::salute::that s what i was thinking too >:D
Post by: cheers05 on May 17, 2008, 06:30:35 PM
Post by: Merlock Profetus, el profeta on May 17, 2008, 06:44:26 PM
Post by: MaverickZr0 on May 17, 2008, 07:26:19 PM
>:-(-| Where can I find the cover of that song ?
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on May 17, 2008, 10:14:03 PM
Post by: megaman781 on May 18, 2008, 03:27:14 AM
Post by: The Anvil on May 18, 2008, 10:22:14 AM
Didnt know that you guys were working on Morph! Yesssswell i should know XD, look at him under the project WIP section.
Post by: Nutty-Da-Kid on May 18, 2008, 10:38:31 AM
Post by: Acey on May 18, 2008, 05:51:28 PM
Post by: Tenspeed on May 18, 2008, 10:20:37 PM
Post by: malisiousjoe on May 18, 2008, 10:28:48 PM
what happened to sludge? :(Yes, is he gone?
=D> on the vid.
Post by: Error Macro on May 20, 2008, 03:37:11 PM
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on May 20, 2008, 05:37:15 PM
Post by: Acey on May 20, 2008, 05:43:02 PM
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on May 20, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
Post by: Gaijin on May 22, 2008, 05:13:26 PM
Post by: Acey on May 22, 2008, 05:56:03 PM
is there work being done to make all the characters"fit" in the game so to speak? what i mean by fit is will certain characters have advantages and disadvantages over certain characters? like a certain move that cancels out another so that the opposing character has to rethink his strategy
Do you have an example from the MvC series.
Post by: xPreatorianx on May 22, 2008, 10:29:12 PM
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 23, 2008, 04:24:49 PM
Here is a little extra information about the game project to help forum users and people in general become familiar with what we're foing here. I hope it is informative and enjoyable.Just in case you need help with the lifebar portraits, PM me(I'm Dante909 if anyone don't know me).
[youtube=425,350]8ogB2bDKBP8[/youtube]
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 23, 2008, 06:24:24 PM
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Post by: Tenspeed on May 23, 2008, 08:58:41 PM
if so, can we hear a little bit about it?
if no, can we take a crack at making one?
Post by: Lord_Waffles on May 26, 2008, 08:29:48 PM
so does this game have a story yet?I hope it has a story
if so, can we hear a little bit about it?
if no, can we take a crack at making one?
Post by: Acey on May 27, 2008, 12:58:17 PM
so does this game have a story yet?
if so, can we hear a little bit about it?
if no, can we take a crack at making one?
yes, not yet and "sorry too late"
Post by: The Anvil on May 28, 2008, 03:22:01 AM
Post by: ExShadow on May 30, 2008, 10:16:18 AM
>:-(-|
on a small note in this game by any chance will the characters have the tag patcher equipped to them because i have some valuable information i would like to share without being bombarded with hateful comments that may need to be looked into
Post by: Acey on May 30, 2008, 10:42:04 AM
The Tag Team will be programmed seprately according to the teachings of Sensei Beximus.
Post by: ExShadow on May 30, 2008, 10:45:14 AM
Post by: Acey on May 30, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
mm i see so u wont be using sludges tag patcher then? :|
It's a great program that Sludge made, we'll just be doing something a little more custom for the project.
Post by: ExShadow on May 30, 2008, 12:07:32 PM
Post by: Nutty-Da-Kid on May 30, 2008, 01:17:37 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on May 31, 2008, 12:55:29 AM
yea sludges is good but beximus is more true to da mvc style of play.
Yeah really. Go try his demo of Capcom Fighting Revolution, then imagine that with 70+ characters!
Post by: ExShadow on May 31, 2008, 08:45:26 AM
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on May 31, 2008, 11:28:48 PM
Post by: Gaijin on June 01, 2008, 10:00:49 AM
Post by: Acey on June 02, 2008, 10:33:40 AM
to reply to my previous post days ago in this thread.....my example of it would be like how iceman does ice beam but if megaman does tornado hold to icemans ice beam the ice beam cancels and cant go through the tornado hold. Or how when captain commando does his flame thrower special it beats ice beam too. Moves that certain characters have that give them the advantage over certain characters and make them have to rethink their strategies because some attacks wont work but others might.
so this isn't something that exists right now in a versus game, just a new idea, right?
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 02, 2008, 12:52:56 PM
to reply to my previous post days ago in this thread.....my example of it would be like how iceman does ice beam but if megaman does tornado hold to icemans ice beam the ice beam cancels and cant go through the tornado hold. Or how when captain commando does his flame thrower special it beats ice beam too. Moves that certain characters have that give them the advantage over certain characters and make them have to rethink their strategies because some attacks wont work but others might.
so this isn't something that exists right now in a versus game, just a new idea, right?
Correct, something like that currently doesn't exist. And it's not something that can be simply spammed either, it would take great timing to persay use "Captain Fire" just a split moment after someone uses "Ice Beam".
Post by: joybeba6679 on June 02, 2008, 07:54:14 PM
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on June 02, 2008, 09:52:52 PM
Post by: I_Burner on June 02, 2008, 10:07:10 PM
Rock, paper, scissors, MUGEN-style....
Post by: Acey on June 02, 2008, 11:53:16 PM
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on June 03, 2008, 12:42:42 AM
You Win
Power:?,???,???
Vital:?,???,???
Extra:?,???,???
Total:???,???,???
See if you and the IMT can do that.
EDIT:In other words, It'll be like ryou win's...
Post by: ExShadow on June 03, 2008, 08:39:21 AM
Post by: Gaijin on June 03, 2008, 11:40:16 AM
actually G Lux...if you have mvc2 do the tornado hold and have someone have iceman and do the icebeam while the tornado hold is out. the ice beam will not go through the tornado hold and the tornado hold will still be going. the tornado hold acts just like geese's rasing storm towards other projectiles even supers in geeses case. the other projectiles are destroyed yet the raising storm still hits all 5 times.to reply to my previous post days ago in this thread.....my example of it would be like how iceman does ice beam but if megaman does tornado hold to icemans ice beam the ice beam cancels and cant go through the tornado hold. Or how when captain commando does his flame thrower special it beats ice beam too. Moves that certain characters have that give them the advantage over certain characters and make them have to rethink their strategies because some attacks wont work but others might.
so this isn't something that exists right now in a versus game, just a new idea, right?
Correct, something like that currently doesn't exist. And it's not something that can be simply spammed either, it would take great timing to persay use "Captain Fire" just a split moment after someone uses "Ice Beam".
Post by: Tenspeed on June 05, 2008, 11:49:55 PM
the projectile that was out first was weaker, so if person A threw a fireball, then person B threw one, it would go through the first and keep going.
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 22, 2008, 08:30:27 PM
Quote
Um... isnt a projectile supposed to cancel another projectile?
yes and no.
Projectiles will cancel other projectiles just it has CLSN1 boxes (the boxes for take damage). Some creators forget to put it.
There is the priority too. Higher priority projectiles will "eat" lower ones.
And there is a special kind: the helper projectile.
Projectile beams-like must be done with helpers, not simple projectiles. Because when you hit iceman when he is doing Ice Beam...the beam would be floating on the air. :)
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on June 27, 2008, 04:48:28 PM
Post by: Acey on July 02, 2008, 01:15:39 AM
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on July 02, 2008, 01:27:07 AM
Old Cap, New Cap, they're the same thing.i concur j/k
Post by: alcoholical on July 02, 2008, 08:49:18 AM
Post by: alcoholical on July 02, 2008, 08:50:58 AM
this lookz great man when it will be finisht guyz good luck 2 :w00t:2009 whatcvhed the end of the vid ~:>
Post by: Legendary Warrior Riptor on July 02, 2008, 03:26:34 PM
Will we see more Updated Marvel Costumes? like Civil War Spiderman or new uniforms on the X-Men... or even the Iron Man with the movie armor or Captian America as seen on the new Secret Invasion? or something like that... 'cause it's so boring to see the same costumes on the heroes... even more!! Spiderman is wearing it's old costume, but it was as well seen the Black Suit too (as seen on Back in Black), or even better World War Hulk, or Red Hulk!!! Maybe I'm asking too much... but it would give this a good and refresing flip on the fighting games ^-^
Post by: moonmaster1 on July 03, 2008, 04:08:07 AM
Post by: SiddtheKidd on July 05, 2008, 03:24:51 PM
Post by: JasonCh444 on July 25, 2008, 10:08:33 AM
Post by: henry14g7 on September 01, 2008, 09:56:38 AM
Thanks!
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on September 01, 2008, 12:08:26 PM
Please add Thanos in the gameLook at my reply in the MvC:EoH thread.
Thanks!
Post by: henry14g7 on September 01, 2008, 12:49:56 PM
where is it???
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on September 01, 2008, 01:56:17 PM
sorry i can't find the threadLook under "Infinity Works in Progress".
where is it???
Post by: croc on September 05, 2008, 12:45:02 AM
Post by: Jedah12 on October 05, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
Post by: Acey on October 06, 2008, 12:22:48 PM
Are you interested in my Huitzil for the Project?
Yes, right now we're really depending on the tons of Marvel character spriters to come through with a few more combatants on the Marvel side so we'll have more room to add characters for the Capcom side though.
Post by: Jedah12 on October 06, 2008, 07:06:50 PM
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=16795.0 (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=16795.0)
Post by: Blues003 on October 10, 2008, 04:18:47 AM
Just a quick question. I see all these massive amounts of characters being made, I even saw Holy Ryu EoH on youtube... my question is if all these characters will be included on a final game? (although I also acknowledge that the word "final" is relative, considering new characters are always being made :P )
Post by: Acey on October 11, 2008, 10:43:01 PM
Hey there, guys.
Just a quick question. I see all these massive amounts of characters being made, I even saw Holy Ryu EoH on youtube... my question is if all these characters will be included on a final game? (although I also acknowledge that the word "final" is relative, considering new characters are always being made :P )
There will be no Holy Ryu in the game, sorry. There will be 70+ characters in the game and if you don't see it announced here in the MvC project section then it's probably not part of the game. All of the characters that were in the first beta release (52 on screen characters I believe) will be in the final game too.
Post by: Animeboy on October 11, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
Post by: Blues003 on October 13, 2008, 03:29:09 AM
Hey there, guys.
Just a quick question. I see all these massive amounts of characters being made, I even saw Holy Ryu EoH on youtube... my question is if all these characters will be included on a final game? (although I also acknowledge that the word "final" is relative, considering new characters are always being made :P )
There will be no Holy Ryu in the game, sorry. There will be 70+ characters in the game and if you don't see it announced here in the MvC project section then it's probably not part of the game. All of the characters that were in the first beta release (52 on screen characters I believe) will be in the final game too.
Well, considering I'd like some of these EoH characters being made in my game, will the game be released in such a format that allows character/stage/sound/etcetra adding? :p
Post by: Acey on October 13, 2008, 11:22:32 PM
The game will be released as one entity. The characters and stages will be released seperately for your own mugen use according to each individual creator's wishes. After the project is officially "not a beta" then we'll release the screen pack too and everyone can fill it till their heart's content. 2009.
Post by: DarkValentine on October 16, 2008, 11:17:04 PM
Post by: Alchemist on October 19, 2008, 12:42:02 PM
I've seen WIP FireMan and an EOH Sakura will those two be in it? :-SS
Sakura EOH confirmed by yours truly :) , release ASAP
Post by: Animeboy on October 19, 2008, 01:52:22 PM
I've seen WIP FireMan and an EOH Sakura will those two be in it? :-SS
Sakura EOH confirmed by yours truly :) , release ASAP
Awesomesauce now that's half my answer.Thanks alot man. :w00t:
Post by: FerchogtX on October 25, 2008, 09:04:20 PM
- A Common vs system for all characters, this means that you need the vs system behavior in a common use, because the default mugen system that you are still using enables nasty easy infinites, and weird behaviors.
- Some anim sets need to be accurate to capcom vs system, this means that you are missing some 5060 group like sprites, some chars just get 5050 anim sets, wich makes them look like SNK type anim sets (look carefully mvc when doing a knock back move)
- You need to fix some easy infinites, like the classic light punch dash infinite type.
- Some chars need unified sparks
- Some proyectiles can be spawned really fast, causing infinites.
- All roster needs curnerpush attibutes to avoid corner easy infinites.
- 5051, 5250 and 5251 anims should be present in all your chars, 5051 is the typeical launcher get hit type + aerial rave type and the other 2 are special standards for spinning around vertical (like in jin's M Typhoon)
Besides this, the proyect looks pretty well, good luck on it :D
See ya!!!
Post by: ExShadow on October 25, 2008, 09:29:56 PM
Post by: Gaijin on October 25, 2008, 11:58:14 PM
Post by: samthethird on November 04, 2008, 02:51:02 PM
Can you make it to have the option between the two setups?
Post by: Acey on November 04, 2008, 07:46:11 PM
Post by: Superjoker on November 04, 2008, 07:47:19 PM
infinity i only have one GOOD suggestion before the game is released...
NEW announcer n letters (good, marvelous, etc)
not only r the current capcom originals annoyin n dull, but they have already been used in the MvC2 game!
it would give SMvC a tru original identity n make the game funner 4 dat, theres plenty of artists who can put this together.
%%-
Post by: ExShadow on November 04, 2008, 08:04:09 PM
infinity i only have one GOOD suggestion before the game is released...thats actually a good idea syn was using original voices for snk vs capcom o.o
NEW announcer n letters (good, marvelous, etc)
not only r the current capcom originals annoyin n dull, but they have already been used in the MvC2 game!
it would give SMvC a tru original identity n make the game funner 4 dat, theres plenty of artists who can put this together.
%%-
Post by: Retr0Cart00n on November 07, 2008, 01:02:07 AM
Post by: Superjoker on November 08, 2008, 05:26:41 PM
If a announcer is needed consider me for being that announcer. It's only a MAYBE though.
can u MAYBE show a preview?
im sure my mate r@ce45 would b interested too
:thumbsup:
Post by: FerchogtX on November 16, 2008, 03:06:10 AM
http://www.cepstral.com/demos/ (http://www.cepstral.com/demos/)
you can generate voice anouncer data with this, is my secret... but I got the voice for the anouncer in Universal War (my proyect, the voice is william... [DON'T USE HIM... XD Just kidding...]) from here, very usefull.
For the last feedback, at least consider to unify the system, because many chars play as the author wanted them to play, so they feel like, separated from the rest of the roster, you can use for example a main helper to control anouncer sounds, so it can be general to everyone and you don't need to code char by char, also, you will get common modified states that will behave like vs system games, without having to override every char.
This suggestions are only for saving you time and nasty char-by-char overriding and modifiying...
See ya!!! :D
P.D. I forgot to mention that the lifebars look pretty well.
Post by: dragonesku on November 16, 2008, 10:34:21 PM
Maybe you can use (if you don't pick RetroCartoon) this site:
http://www.cepstral.com/demos/ (http://www.cepstral.com/demos/)
you can generate voice anouncer data with this, is my secret... but I got the voice for the anouncer in Universal War (my proyect, the voice is william... [DON'T USE HIM... XD Just kidding...]) from here, very usefull.
hey now, thanks for the info mah man!
Post by: Gaijin on November 21, 2008, 11:24:29 AM
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Post by: ZVitor on December 24, 2008, 02:58:00 PM
quick question once eoh is released will all its characters be available individually on the main page for dlaod?they ill 1/day in january
Post by: ExShadow on December 24, 2008, 03:01:36 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on December 25, 2008, 03:57:01 AM
quick question once eoh is released will all its characters be available individually on the main page for dlaod?
I see a party coming up my friend.
Post by: ColdPyro on December 28, 2008, 11:55:54 PM
Post by: ZVitor on December 29, 2008, 04:47:00 AM
it's almost 2009 ;Dim counting the days too ;D
Post by: ExShadow on December 29, 2008, 07:07:43 AM
I see a party coming up my friend.word bro
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 29, 2008, 10:09:37 AM
they ill 1/day in january
er...as far as I know, they won't be released on Jan 1st. The Download Party will be something in February
Post by: bdcirck on December 29, 2008, 10:19:04 AM
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 29, 2008, 10:30:42 AM
Post by: ZVitor on December 29, 2008, 10:54:37 AM
Post by: laspacho on December 29, 2008, 11:02:21 AM
me too, im sure about beta comming soon, but dont know date to download party
ETA is 2009 for the completed game.
We will end the year off with a bang.
This year the release party was in February and it went into the first week of March. I released Metalman V1 on February 17. :)
Post by: greatmuta2 on December 29, 2008, 11:03:36 AM
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 29, 2008, 12:27:46 PM
Post by: C.R.O.M. - 有且只有一個 on December 29, 2008, 12:38:01 PM
Post by: laspacho on December 29, 2008, 12:46:33 PM
I would assume the release party with the separate characters would be February.
Post by: ZVitor on December 29, 2008, 01:20:25 PM
You will be happy in two days. ;Dmaybe 3 or 4, i cant download in megaupload at firsts days of some release
I would assume the release party with the separate characters would be February.
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 29, 2008, 01:24:09 PM
You will be happy in two days. ;D
I would assume the release party with the separate characters would be February.
So, they will release all the chars togheter on Dec 31th then release all the separate characters in February?
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on December 29, 2008, 01:30:22 PM
So, they will release all the chars togheter on Dec 31th then release all the separate characters in February?
lol. just keep your eyes open.
Post by: laspacho on December 29, 2008, 07:26:33 PM
So, they will release all the chars togheter on Dec 31th then release all the separate characters in February?
Yes. :)
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 29, 2008, 07:35:23 PM
lol. just keep your eyes open.
I will..at all.
Post by: C.R.O.M. - 有且只有一個 on December 30, 2008, 05:01:21 PM
So, they will release all the chars togheter on Dec 31th then release all the separate characters in February?Last time I check a couple characters like Punisher and crap will be released this month...Or well they should be....
Post by: novasod on December 31, 2008, 12:52:20 AM
1.Balance: In the previous version of EOH, there were some balance issues, such as Sagat and Megeman being able to get easy infinities with their projectiles. (Megaman got it with his low projectile.) Besides that, some attacks did too much damage, such as Iceman's Beam Super, or Dee Jay's Projectile Super, or the light version of Hulk's anti-air (Ch.D,U+K), which doesn't too much damage on it's own, but allows Hulk to juggle the foe. Other attacks don't do enough damage, such as Hulk's rush attack (Ch.B,F+K). Hopefully, these issues, and many more, have been addressed.
2.'Cloneage': I can understand the shotokans, considering they play differently enough overall, but Ironman and Warmachine are still too similar. What's more, Charlie and Guile are in the same game. Charlie was originally made to be Guile's replacement, not a clone, so there's no need for two of them. The same goes for Warmachine, by the way; originally meant to be Ironman's replacement in MVC.
3.Too Few Options?: It seems like a few characters don't have a lot going for them. 2 of Hulk2099's specials are very similar, so it's like he was brought down from a mere 3 specials to an even mere-er 2. Then there's Banshee. He has a projectile, a close range attack that's quite similar to a normal of his, and a stun attack. That's it. Sure, all Guile has is 2 moves, but one of them is an anti-air. When coupled with his good normals, he's not too shabby. Unfortunately, Banshee has no true anti-air. There might be more cases of this situation.
4.Ryu: What Ryu can do: A projectile, both types of air projectiles, an anti-air, and a multi-purpose attack (rushing, zoning, maby more.) Cyclops can do all that and more (beams instead of projectiles, but there's not major differences between the two) and there might be other characters who eclipse Ryu. Maybe you should give Ryu his fourth special from SFIII:TS to make him stand out more.
Maybe I'll think of more later...
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on December 31, 2008, 02:20:35 AM
All and all, all of this can be answered as a, "Becuz we wanted 2" thing..... More characters wont hurt a thing...
However some characters should be updated though... but never the less you r asking for alot of stuff to be changed in a short period of time...
Its more of a personal preference.... There r things i would like to change as well but if its something in general that the over all gamer would also agree with then maybe it will get changed for the better
Post by: greatmuta2 on December 31, 2008, 02:27:54 AM
dude this sounds more like feedback, and if so u posted this is the wrong place... And u cant ask why they put guile and charlie in the same game, i mean why not?...... Its not like its hurting anything..... Plus why warmachine and Iron man, maybe cus capcom did it when they put both of them in mvc2....and about that guile and charlie thing they did that in alpha 3 also its mugen theres two reasons right there lol
All and all, all of this can be answered as a, "Becuz we wanted 2" thing..... More characters wont hurt a thing...
However some characters should be updated though... but never the less you r asking for alot of stuff to be changed in a short period of time...
Its more of a personal preference.... There r things i wold like to change as well but if its something in general that the over a;; gamer would also agree with then maybe it will get changed for the better
Post by: Acey on December 31, 2008, 03:07:19 AM
The new version of EOH might be coming out soon, so I have some questions and concerns. I don't know if they'll be answered or addressed, but I'm pretty sure asking won't end with me being left for dead.
1.Balance: In the previous version of EOH, there were some balance issues, such as Sagat and Megeman being able to get easy infinities with their projectiles. (Megaman got it with his low projectile.) Besides that, some attacks did too much damage, such as Iceman's Beam Super, or Dee Jay's Projectile Super, or the light version of Hulk's anti-air (Ch.D,U+K), which doesn't too much damage on it's own, but allows Hulk to juggle the foe. Other attacks don't do enough damage, such as Hulk's rush attack (Ch.B,F+K). Hopefully, these issues, and many more, have been addressed.
2.'Cloneage': I can understand the shotokans, considering they play differently enough overall, but Ironman and Warmachine are still too similar. What's more, Charlie and Guile are in the same game. Charlie was originally made to be Guile's replacement, not a clone, so there's no need for two of them. The same goes for Warmachine, by the way; originally meant to be Ironman's replacement in MVC.
3.Too Few Options?: It seems like a few characters don't have a lot going for them. 2 of Hulk2099's specials are very similar, so it's like he was brought down from a mere 3 specials to an even mere-er 2. Then there's Banshee. he has a projectile, a close range attack that's quite similar to a normal of his, and a sun attack. That's it. Sure, all Guile has is 2 moves, but one of them is an anti-air. When coupled with his good normals, he's not too shabby. Unfortunately, Banshee has no true anti-air. There might be more cases of this situation.
4.Ryu: What Ryu can do: A projectile, both types of air projectiles, an anti-air, and a multi-purpose attack (rushing, zoning, maby more.) Cyclops can do all that and more (beams instead of projectiles, but there's not major differences between the two) and there might be other characters who eclipse Ryu. Maybe you should give Ryu his fourth special from SFIII:TS to make him stand out more.
Maybe I'll think of more later...
You have some valid concerns there. Let's touch on a few points.
1) Balance, Yes we're constantly addressing this issue until we get it pretty close but nothing has been balanced since SSFII Turbo and it took them how many tried to get that close. It's an uphill battle with so many different fighting styles, just like real life. There is a reason why Ken Shamrock always won Ultimate Fighting
2) I am a Guile enthusiast and I understand the concern about douplicates. I won't argue the difference between him and Charlie because I know every other Guile enthusuast allready knows that he is far superior and always has been, which is why he only has 2 special moves. The are different characters. As for War Machine and Iron Man, we need more Marvel characters, so there you go, it was good enough for MvC2, it's good enough for us.
3) Ryu and Cyclops were made to be balanced equals in the X-Men vs SF game. That said, Ryu is still the strongest shoto and definatly stronger than Cyclops, but hey, I'm always in favor of more hypers for everyone!
4) Hulk 2099 is... bland. I know. As well is Sabretooth and Juggernaut. :-??
5) Banshee has flight rather than anti air, and his flight combos are killer, that is where his strength lies, in covering the higher ground and thus controlling the possition of the opponent. Unfortunatly he's not the most popular character so alot of people don't really get to explore his deeper side.
I hope you feel satisfied with the answers and you are correct, the new version of EoH might come out someday. :)
Post by: novasod on December 31, 2008, 11:26:21 AM
Post by: warecus on December 31, 2008, 02:05:59 PM