Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

yeah there is manolo bro...its millions of them...just watch a youtube video on the insane combo infinites , the underhand tatics then study how they pull them off, go take in online play against their starter level plays, and bam unless those guys are studying the same guides and tatics..win. my 14 year old nephew can vouch for that cause thats how he learned. pratciced watching youtube vids. . gamers these days dont have an identy in fighting style anymore like we did years ago bro.  you had to seriously earn those wins to be cosidered a worthy player while watching the quarters get dropped in the slots till it was your turn. these days, instant gratification is required for new players to have a good fighting chance which is why its more pickup and play friendly but still has a learning curve to expolit the cheapnesses of certain characters and gameplay mechanics.

with the "code '' thing..yeah thats long gone. it hold true now still a bit in more 3d fighters like VF series and DOA and even a little in SF3 & SF4 series. it depends upon the players who employ them. i wont get that kind of thing with this generation of fighters like that. you do have to adapt but in a sense you lose your fighting idenity cause you have to conform to a new way to play thats mainstream in order to win. for instance bro manolo, remember when me and you would start off a match and you would use Amy... your first move before match would be able to start was to get close to me so when the fight started it was first hit gets the combo going and only defense was to be able to block before the start up frame commensed but as well at what focal point was your attack gonna be directed to block good enough and able to repell back to get my fight on.

thats not the old school way, the "code" way. that way was when you stood your stance ground and the cerebal mid game began of who was gonna jump first, flinch, when the bait and trap could began. now your able to start your rush in almost off the bat. there was a fighters respect code on the emphesis of true combat. jump in dish it out , counter , guard, counter attack , pressure but back off was conered to alloow mortal combat to flow. its called a Fair One.  

[Swiziga]

I don't think there are that many cheap no skill spammers in live face-to-face play. They would have been killed by now...  

@ Kriven - I don't agree with what you said. Those cheap no skill tactics are there only to appeal to noobs and no skill players, just so Crapcom can make a buck on their sad lives...  


@ Swiziga - Again, what characters were you using on that match?  

@manalo dante, vergil, wesker. even if i got behind him with teleport i would still get hit by a missile which was enough for him to start a simple l, m, h, special and hidden missile teleport kick all over again. the most frustrating part is strider's teleport kick because even if i got a hyper combo to try and ko doom the kick is an over head that avoids all ground attacks and would hit me out of the hyper combo. that move has really annoyed me and even as an assist its cheap because its almost impossible to punish

@kriven are you serious?

[Kriven]

I'm completely serious. Video games aren't the same as real fighting. If the programmers included knives, feel free to bring them to the fight.

[Swiziga]

I'm completely serious. Video games aren't the same as real fighting. If the programmers included knives, feel free to bring them to the fight.

so you're saying there's no such thing as cheap tactics/spamming not even in mvc3?

[Kriven]

Not exactly. There are certain imbalances that are game-breaking, but I don't find spamming to be one of them.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

Not exactly. There are certain imbalances that are game-breaking, but I don't find spamming to be one of them.

 wait ...what

MVC3 and Ultimate is littered with imbalances. Moreso than ANY game i have ever played in my 30 years of fighting games playing. Spamming was NOT allowed in the arcade tournaments where i live. especially at the old Alladin Castle acrade. if you spammed attacks, instant boos and ya got labled a scrub. back then a scrub player wasnt someone who couldnt play well , it was someone who used spamming and corner burglering as a way to win. Its not really part of the creators whole gameplay design to do it but its the players choice to apply it.  Spamming = Scrubs.

[ExeLord]

I always thought he's capcom spy agent... jk

[-Whiplash-]

Look man, I know you took hours to learn your combos and set-up and all that, but I'm better then you cause I mastered the ability to run away and mash   +  :bp

On a side note: I don't have that  much problems with spamming... Except Dr. Doom.... he has a projectle for every situation...

[Dead Phoenix]

Will someone cover any info thats released? I'm taking a family trip for 2 weeks where theirs no intenet or computer and games
So heres a some info on Heroes and Heralds mode before I leave.

later. Happy Holidays

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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/dec/12/umvc3-patch-date-announced-hh-included-vita-version-has-replays/

Inside Games has revealed that the patch (which includes Heroes and Heralds) will be coming out on December 19th, 2011.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/12/heroes__heralds_week:_a_primer_for_ultimate_mvc3s_free_dlc

Heroes & Heralds week: a primer for Ultimate MvC3's free DLC
Monday, December 12, 2011, 1:17 PM [General]




An air-dashing Ryu? Invisible health bars? Regenerating Hyper meter? Something's definitely different about the matches inside our upcoming Heroes & Heralds mode, which arrives soon as free DLC for Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3. In preparation for its impending release, we'd like to spend the week discussing the various aspects of this free add-on, which range from online and offline modes to elaborate character customization. There's a lot of great new content in here, so let's get to it!


First off - what is Heroes & Heralds mode? A sizeable update that adds a deep, customizable new angle to online and offline play. Each time you begin, you choose a faction - either noble Heroes or silver-colored Heralds of Galactus - and engage in a series of battles with the opposing side. Online battles pit you against human opponents, while the offline mode has you scrapping with AI teams.



But there's more to it than simply choosing teams - the real meat of Heroes & Heralds mode is the acquisition of Ability Cards that give your team all kinds of new powers. These abilities range from basic alterations (like a speed boost) to game-changing, combo-enhancing powers (like invisibility or the ability to pass through projectiles). Even better, said cards are based on classic Marvel and Capcom characters, so each and every one acts as a tiny cameo from someone you know! We'll go into card specifics later this week, complete with descriptions of their powers and the aforementioned artwork featuring dozens of beloved characters.

Heroes & Heralds is a standalone mode, and does not introduce Ability Cards into other areas of online play. That said, you can still hop into Training mode and try out your decks before taking them into the online or offline Heroes & Heralds mode. Find three cards that work best together (or suit your play style best) and see what happens!

Here's how the posts will break down:

Tuesday: A look at the online mode of H&H
Wednesday: Scrap with AI teams to perfect your H&H decks
Thursday: A card spotlight on three beloved Capcom characters
Friday: We'll end the week with a look at three Marvel ability cards
Monday: Three more Marvel characters receive an up-close examination
Tuesday: Closing out our week of coverage with three more Capcom cards

See you tomorrow for more. Until then, this thorough trailer should help recap the general topics we touched on today:

[Yung Kratos]

so you're saying there's no such thing as cheap tactics/spamming not even in mvc3?

I thought it would be best to highlight this post. Marvel is a game where team composition and creativity are as key to winning as the actual gameplay. Every character is given a very powerful dynamic powerful set of tools and your goal is to pair those sets of tools together between 3 characters to achieve the goal of winning. So not just one but 3 sets of completely ridiculous toolsets. Sounds pretty cheap right? That's the goal.

Bottom line bitching about the existence of certain tools will only serve to hinder the process of beating them. You must approach everything in the game as something that must be beaten. Analyze the strengths and weaknesses of everything you see and overcome. you gotta realize if YOU are weak against something the first step is is improving YOUR control over it. Actions win battles not small talk.

[Kriven]

@Yung Kratos: Well said.

I always thought he's capcom spy agent... jk

I sometimes wish I were. Then maybe I'd have some say in the rosters...

Chill Penguin for MvC4! Ah yeah!

[C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle]

@manalo dante, vergil, wesker. even if i got behind him with teleport i would still get hit by a missile which was enough for him to start a simple l, m, h, special and hidden missile teleport kick all over again. the most frustrating part is strider's teleport kick because even if i got a hyper combo to try and ko doom the kick is an over head that avoids all ground attacks and would hit me out of the hyper combo. that move has really annoyed me and even as an assist its cheap because its almost impossible to punish

That is a really good team. The only problem with it is that you don't have an assist that can help Wesker extend his combos, so you lose all that extra damage. Vergil's Judgment Cut assist could be used for that, but the timing is very tricky. You could also use Dante’s Weasel Shot assist, but you lose the great Jam Session assist...

Anyway, you could have punished him with either one of those characters, especially since all of them have teleports, but to get close in that case you have to teleport above your opponent most of the time, not behind since Strider is too fast. Teleport above him, hitting high and then low, but mixing it up enough so you don't become predictable. Jam session was your best friend in that match since it appears quickly next to you and can punish Strider’s teleport. You should have called it every time he teleported and he would have been punished every time. Jam Session would have also protected you from Doom’s missiles... 

Now, the most important thing is that you have to play a defensive game against that type of player until you find an opening. First, find and study the pattern. There usually is one. It will take you about 10 to 20 seconds, but it will be worth it. Strider's teleport hit can be blocked while standing, while jumping and even while crouching, and neither that nor Doom’s assist do much chip damage, so just block and study. After you figure it out, you will know when to hit. 

Also, besides Jam Session, Strider's teleport can be punished in two ways, one by using Standing S as soon as he teleports and the second way is by blocking it and hitting him right after. Since Strider's health is so low, punishing his teleport can drain his life quickly, especially if you follow the hit into a combo, which you can easily do with all three of your characters. 

Doom's assist weakness is that you can predict when and where it will land, if you are used to it and will not hit you the closer you get to the side of the screen from where Doom came from. Keep moving forward. 

A good way to get rid of both would have been to punish Strider's teleport and as soon as you do, call a team hyper. If timed correctly, you can punish both at the same time. You could have also done the team hyper or just a regular hyper as soon as Strider teleported to catch him as soon as he appeared above you. 

The point is that as soon as Strider's health got low or you had gotten rid of him, the tables would have been turned, and if he was a good Doom user, you just had to watch out for that foot dive and then teleport behind him and punish him... 

[Jelux Da Casual]

Too long; didn't quote

Good lord man, you should like, write a book or do a DVD, or something....

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

Good lord man, you should like, write a book or do a DVD, or something....

HA! and you guys made fun of me for a whole year of how long i post . But manolo is very detailed, a true UMVC3 player right there. manolo is the undisputed new champ of posts! . Yo those are some great tactics Manolo

[Rage]

Good lord man, yall should like, write a book or do a DVD, or something....

Yeah i dont really read anything any  more because of the novelist we have.......... 

[C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle]

Good lord man, you should like, write a book or do a DVD, or something....

HATEEER !!!   

I was trying to help a friend and a UMvC3 comrade. Get of your strike and buy the game so we can relive old times... 

PS. You keep lurking in this thread so you know you want it...

PSS. Did you know they did a tribute to Mega Man with some of the costumes...??

[Swiziga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBDksrQU5s0&feature=g-u#

[Acey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBDksrQU5s0&feature=g-u#

I was watching the Doom loop in this video and thinking to myself that the AI on Very Hard Arcade mode will never do that but guess what, I got the Doom looped just tonight by the AI, I was so excited to (almost) get my butt kicked.

[C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle]

I was watching the Doom loop in this video and thinking to myself that the AI on Very Hard Arcade mode will never do that but guess what, I got the Doom looped just tonight by the AI, I was so excited to (almost) get my butt kicked.

...By the way, loved video... 

Good find Swiziga...




 

[Rage]

Good find Swiziga...




 

[Swiziga]

im still hoping that the real doom becomes dlc

[HyperVoiceActing]

im still hoping that the real doom becomes dlc

DOOM NEEDS MORE YOGURT

[C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle]

Don't know if this one was already posted, but it was pretty cool too...  

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz2SGrFN_c4&annotation_id=annotation_373765&feature=iv#

EDIT:

More info on H&H...  



Heroes & Heralds: The online campaign

*http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/13/heroes__heralds:_the_online_campaign*

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The first stop in our weeklong look at the upcoming Heroes & Heralds DLC - due 12/19 in all territories - examines the Online campaign. Odds are this is where everyone will spend most of their time, so it makes sense to cover this one right away, eh?

In a nutshell, the Online mode is a week-long tournament that tallies the overall performance of two factions - Heroes and Heralds, naturally - and then crowns a winner at the end.

After choosing your side, you search for battles with the opposing faction via Quick Match, Create Match or Custom Match. The difference between fights in standard multiplayer and Heroes & Heralds mode is these matches incorporate performance-enhancing Ability Cards, and your battle outcomes are graded individually and as a group; as you play, you earn H&H points for your own ranking, but these points also contribute to your faction's total. At the end of the week, the campaign is over and the faction with the most points is declared the winner. On the losing end? Don't worry - you can switch factions at the beginning of the next week's campaign and try your luck over there.

What's in it for the victors? Well, other than bragging rights and nice placement on the leaderboards, you're also more likely to receive better Ability Cards, plus a chance at unlocking the silver-hued Herald Color for Marvel and Capcom characters. Rewards come at a quick pace, so even if you only have time for a few battles each week, you're still going to unlock new content.

Tomorrow we'll examine the Offline mode for Heroes & Heralds, and then Thursday onward we'll focus on specific Ability Cards. Until then, consider checking out the earlier trailer that covers the new, free mode as a whole:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3k5WcicY_0&feature=player_embedded#

Above: In this case, Team Heroes is winning the overall campaign. Note the progress bar - it will change throughout the week, depending on the current state of the campaign





Above: A Herald-colored Strider faces down Tron. Both are equipped with Ability Cards, displayed underneath their team icons. Notice how Strider's life bars are invisible!



Heroes & Heralds: The offline campaign

*http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/14/heroes__heralds:_the_offline_campaign*

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Yesterday we highlighted the online aspect of Heroes & Heralds, so naturally today we're moving to the offline component. As you may expect, the offline mode has you battling AI opponents instead of other sentient beings, but the way these fights play out (and how you earn Ability Cards) is completely different from the online mode.

In the offline mode, the goal is to dominate each territory on this hexagonal grid. After choosing either the Hero or Herald faction, you then hop from place to place, either defending Earth as a Hero or trying to claim it as a Herald of Galactus. Each victory brings you closer to owning that territory, and if you achieve 100% ownership of a given battleground you're rewarded with a top-notch Ability Card. However... the final battle for the last 10% is a real doozy, with brutal AI opponents armed with particularly strong Ability Cards. A tough battle, but all that playing will yield many Ability Cards for the online portion, where you're facing down other players.

Thankfully, there's more to do in the offline mode than move a percentage bar. Notice the Hit List in the lower right corner - as you move from area to area, the Hit List alerts you as to which characters inhabit a given battleground. If you pay attention to this data and "take out" a full row of the Hit List, a bonus background will appear. This newly unlocked area will award even better Ability Cards, but if you lose a match on that stage, poof, the area disappears.


The Offline mode serves two purposes: one, it acts as a sort of mini-campaign for solo play, with the goal of controlling every piece of the grid; two, it lets you practice new card combinations in a results-free environment. If your cards can topple the Hit Lists and lock down 100% on a map, odds are you've discovered a rather effective mix that'll do well against human players too.

Another nice aspect of the Offline mode is that you can modify decks without having to back out to the actual "Create Deck" section of Heroes & Heralds. Change cards in between matches and hop right back into the fray!

You can also hop into UMvC3's usual Training mode and test your cards out there, as well as equip the training dummies with a deck for further experimentation. Depends on what you're trying to test, in the end - if you want a dummy to pound on, or to see how an opponent's cards could affect you, Training is your mode, while the Offline campaign is good for battling tough AI enemies who can actually react to your deck.

With Online and Offline covered, it's time to get into Ability Cards themselves. Check back tomorrow for our first spotlight on three of 'em!

Above: Keep your eye on the Hit List to complete rows and unlock more stages. Once one Hit List is done, another takes its place




Above: Want quick access to the deck builder? Offline mode lets you alter the deck in between matches




and...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw5qsMzFreU&feature=player_embedded#

[G.P.O.A - GatlingPunchRalf]

I think we of the IMT need to align ourselves to one side!

[SanjiSasuke]

I vote heroes. Shiny is distracting.