After Guild's make-over, P.o.t.S. made his stuff open source.
After Guild's make-over, P.o.t.S. made his stuff open source.
Orly?
is there a reason why ER can't be on the list the same way hsieh is?
Hold it.
Jin, MystikBlaze, and MRev all stated no in readmes at the very least: that still counts as a given they don't go on here (readme states no, it is still no unless they state otherwise at a later time). JinKazama's still around too: last we heard, he was working on a MK game.
Warner's stuff is completely open source.
A lot of ER's stuff falls under the completely-edited clause of things: meaning, you can't modify them.
A lot of ER's stuff falls under the completely-edited clause of things: meaning, you can't modify them.
I think that, if Evil Dan doesn't count as original, neither should Spawn. But, hey, it's your call.
Evil Dan was Dan's sprites modified to a mostly palette swapped character. Spawn and Regina are not akin to their bases however in a similar relation.IMO, Spawn is just Captain Americas Pallete Swap, he really needs an upgrade.
let's drop the Spawn thing, OK? it's not a pallete swap, it's a sprite edit. Pallete is colors. It's old and incomplete, but it's ER'S original work and his alone.Evil Dan was Dan's sprites modified to a mostly palette swapped character. Spawn and Regina are not akin to their bases however in a similar relation.IMO, Spawn is just Captain Americas Pallete Swap, he really needs an upgrade.
...his site is still very much online Nick. Hell, I spoke with him two months back even.
DG's stuff is open source apparently (i was going to keep this to myself, be thankful i didn't.)
you do still have to ask, but unless you're a bad mugen person, he'll always say yes.
DG's stuff is open source apparently (i was going to keep this to myself, be thankful i didn't.)
you do still have to ask, but unless you're a bad mugen person, he'll always say yes.
oh well, take him off the list then, because you do have to ask, he'll just always say yes.DG's stuff is open source apparently (i was going to keep this to myself, be thankful i didn't.)
you do still have to ask, but unless you're a bad mugen person, he'll always say yes.
I don't know if I can really say that his stuff would be open source, even if he'll generally say yes.
add me to the not open source list pls k thx
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Alright.
If you release just the SFF no. That's a patch. If you release the character with that SFF, then it's a sprite swap, which is akin to as you mentioned a palette swap (or worse sometimes...see God Ryu...)so would patches be an allowed release?
Just like to say that ONLY Sakura Plus and Cammy(mvc2) are opensource, anyone else WILL become opensource once they are completed, so this will prevent anyone finishing my work before me due to time constrictions, as a matter of fact I wouldn't mind someone completing Sakura since I had a HDD crash, so KFM could you just state that in the list plz, thanks
Had no idea Mugen was this serious #:-S
There is content of several creators and editors in my chars (i know i only relased ryu so far), some in open some in not open so better clear this out to avoid problems (i would count on the open source side but guys like H wouldnt) so:
My CODE is open source, everything else, ask me so i can redirect you.
like my code was that great XD, someone let kfm know plz cause im not a member in that forum
and XD||
Don't you have to ask permission from warner to edit his stuff?
Ok if I ever decide to edit your chars I'll ask. And thanks for really clearing that up. :)Don't you have to ask permission from warner to edit his stuff?
it would be nice if the one who wants to modify any of my chars, let me know his project. :|
and for the simple reason my sprites are totally originals, it will be kind if give me credit for that. ;D
and the new char who raise from the one of my chars, must to be shared as well.
And with that simple conditions all my stuff will be open source always, but disrespect my simples conditions, :-$ turns my work will be private, all my future chars.
Means too though that Warner goes in the other list (open source equates to stuff folks don't have to ask your permission for)hmmmm, i didn,t see it at that way.
Means too though that Warner goes in the other list (open source equates to stuff folks don't have to ask your permission for)hmmmm, i didn,t see it at that way.
Ok. i think if somebody use my sprites and make public release of his/her new char, giving credit for the sprite's author.
then is OK.
i hope don't miss those releases. :P
since we officially know that the old Yacopu has no author (as KFM has stated), would that make him open source?
are you allowed to use sprites for a private edit
i'm still wondering about ahuron and dala :O*D
since we officially know that the old Yacopu has no author (as KFM has stated), would that make him open source?
Could be touchy, as it could be made by someone who stated they aren't open source, just didn't realize to update the character with an authorname (i.e. very old mugen works), or they could've been open source from the getgo. Personally in this case I'd go with listing them in a category to locate info on who the author was first if possible, and go from there.are you allowed to use sprites for a private edit
Obviously yes, just don't distribute it privately or some twit will eventually stab you in the back @_@'i'm still wondering about ahuron and dala :O*D
You might be best off emailing them with a query to see if they respond with a yes?
i think if the original author is lost for years, and you want to update his char, u can do it, but the credit of the original author must remain.
about using sprites for private edit, i think is ok. meanwhile don't boasting how nice is your edited char in the community. :-w
Vyn, no estoy seguro si Boast es alardear. espero que se entienda lo q trato de decir.
No me gustaría ver q usen mis sprites y mejoren el char, solo lo anuncien y no lo compartan. >:P
better keep your edited char for yourself and don't tell to anybody, if u don't think to share it.
I don't like the selfishness! ~X(
would Tetsu's creation's be open source?
all my work and all of my sprite edit that I've post on any forum are free for use and slaughter!.:o
:)
All my sprites are free! Only the sprites. ;)
*looks at list* So, the new rules haven't affected anything? Wow, kind of a waste, don't you think?
Nobody's really done anything with them yet really, which is kinda surprising to be honest.
How do you figure?
Wait. Wouldn't K3nshin's Stuff be open source? Hes the guy who made Strider Hien.
Guess I was forgotten on Random Select, I did mention that my materials from characters to coding, to stages to effects, etc are freely open to use.
@star: Check the documentation for anything that would hint they aren't? As he does seem to be completely gone at this point.
March 9th 2001
I do not work in Mugen anymore. Sorry for keep you waiting. Please, don't blame me.
I'm moving to another town and I won't have a computer.
Please, do not e-mail me.
I'll miss you all, especially the first Mugen makers, who helped me a lot...
Matheus
@star: Check the documentation for anything that would hint they aren't? As he does seem to be completely gone at this point.
found this on his site...QuoteMarch 9th 2001
I do not work in Mugen anymore. Sorry for keep you waiting. Please, don't blame me.
I'm moving to another town and I won't have a computer.
Please, do not e-mail me.
I'll miss you all, especially the first Mugen makers, who helped me a lot...
Matheus
yeah, I'd say that it's open source...
@star: Check the documentation for anything that would hint they aren't? As he does seem to be completely gone at this point.
found this on his site...QuoteMarch 9th 2001
I do not work in Mugen anymore. Sorry for keep you waiting. Please, don't blame me.
I'm moving to another town and I won't have a computer.
Please, do not e-mail me.
I'll miss you all, especially the first Mugen makers, who helped me a lot...
Matheus
yeah, I'd say that it's open source...
well he did not state he is open source......
Edit: This list can also be found at Random Select here: http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/forum/index.php?topic=3844.0 (http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/forum/index.php?topic=3844.0) -Excursion
Under the following circumstances however you are allowed to use or modify parts from another creator's character if:
# The creator and all his or her works have been offline for approximately a year.
# There is no contact to reach or representative for said person to reach regarding hosting of said works, and there is no previous indication of denial to use said parts or modify said character
Also, Hien falls under the completely edited category folks :Pbut the author himself gave people permission to update him. :|
Well i did have a private project involving him I started in the past but I guess I will continue it. If K3nShiN returns and asks for this to stop, then out of respect I will.
If its left up to me as you say, The only thing I ask is that first and foremost, credit K3nShiN for taking the time to make the edits and bringing such a character to life, consider this a privilege and don't abuse it.
Well i did have a private project involving him I started in the past but I guess I will continue it. If K3nShiN returns and asks for this to stop, then out of respect I will.
If its left up to me as you say, The only thing I ask is that first and foremost, credit K3nShiN for taking the time to make the edits and bringing such a character to life, consider this a privilege and don't abuse it.
....I don't think I can help myself. Im an Open Source Freak. Its Fun making and Editing things for MUG3N.
Question. Can I release my edits of POTS Ryu and Akuma? It Says You can't use POTS Fx and I did. :O But I haven't released it so its okay. ;)
Well i did have a private project involving him I started in the past but I guess I will continue it. If K3nShiN returns and asks for this to stop, then out of respect I will.
If its left up to me as you say, The only thing I ask is that first and foremost, credit K3nShiN for taking the time to make the edits and bringing such a character to life, consider this a privilege and don't abuse it.
....I don't think I can help myself. Im an Open Source Freak. Its Fun making and Editing things for MUG3N.
Question. Can I release my edits of POTS Ryu and Akuma? It Says You can't use POTS Fx and I did. :O But I haven't released it so its okay. ;)
Well like me, custom effects in characters are custom made and its not something you can whip up in an instant.
I see many characters that are from others that really have no changes made to them but prolly a few stances and hitsparks added and some sound effects and voices changed, other than that, no major work was really done, just some sound, voice and sprite fx swaps
All I want to say is don't abuse the open source privilege because it is a privilege you know, from those who make sprite packs to custom coding to whatever fits that topic, use it wisely, don't abuse it.I agree with you on that
I see many characters that are from others that really have no changes made to them but prolly a few stances and hitsparks added and some sound effects and voices changed, other than that, no major work was really done, just some sound, voice and sprite fx swapsand I agree with that
@ Alexziq I mean I am not defending him . I'm just saying he actually resprited Hulk 2099 to make him look like Killer Croc . He actually put work into something & made it different . anon just recolors something & calls it his .
The whole selling on ebay is pretty bad . but I don't think this new seller is him .
@ Kung Fu Man which twit are you talking about ? I mentioned 2 .
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Unless you're stating if you're open source or not or pointing out someone else is, the discussion doesn't really go here ALEXZIQ/DARKTALBAIN :|
I used Acey's code to make Hobgoblin . Acey granted me permission to use the Green Goblin . I totally resprited the character to make him look like Hobgoblin & changed the moves around & did some new looking intros . I don't really see what's wrong with that ? Come Halloween when I release him we will then have 2 of the Goblins . Somebody should make the Demogoblin , I don't have time I have other projects going on !
It's guys like this that people should be worried about the most....
He took Loganir's Thor & Hannibal's Superman & put some blood on them . Now he is calling them "rare" zombie characters so he can trade them . I mean doesn't this go against what the rules of the community ? The Demon (MarvelvsDCU) who actually made some decent edits of things is a total outcast of the Mugen community . But this nimrod KingAnon still runs free with no bad rep . How does that make any sense ?
Shouldn't you be more worried about an @$$hole like Anon than someone who is actually making a totally different character & it turns out decent ?
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I just wanted to clarify something right quick about my materials being open source.
All of my past releases that are now available are free to be used for whatever reason in relation to this open source thread.
However,
The materials used in my SxC full game when a prototype is released are not to be used for open source purposes in reference to the custom/original graphic sprites and some coding for the game. there is no need for me to allow the characters to be open source since they are from open source packs anyway but the coding for this game alone are not along with the custom screenpack graphics and life bar design or whatever that is posted in my threads wip section on my forum or whatever I may show here.
Most likely if I come across a code or develop something new that might help others coding wise, I normally would update my coding section of the site and share the info here in infinity.
Not being an @$$ but until the full game is fully completed or close to it, I may decide to allow it but as for now, please respect my wishes.
Why am I all of a sudden saying this you may ask, Something was brought to my attention and I also have other reasons I would like to keep to myself.
Thanks for reading and understanding.
All files here proposed are free. I mean: you can do what you want with them (release, modify, edit, use, etc.), you don't need to ask me. Any contradicting word you may find in one of the files you download should be ignored.
I have a tiny question for you all...are KGenjuro´s characters open source?i belive so.. i edit his hanzo and got it up for grabs
I know his Hanzo is offline...
PLEASE, DO NOT MODIFY THE CHARACTER-SET!!!i always thought this was his stance on things, though i'm pretty sure a couple of his works may fall under the completely edited works category, like the MSpaint samurai.
YOU CAN EXPLORE OR TAKE SMALL PARTS OF IT TO CREATE
AN OWN M.U.G.E.N.-CHARACTER, BUT DON´T MODIFY THE
ORIGINAL CHARACTER!
I request that my moniker be removed from its current standpoint, and placed in the opposing list.
Life definatley goes on & mine will with a dragon guy in my roster
Out of respect I would ask you not to, but I can't stop you.
Its barely a month old beta anyways so I don't care. He is on hold anyway until I decide to finish him.
>:-(-| Question:No.
can i host Heartburnkid mugen stuff............im gettin a lot of request in my page (raw stage ,smackdown screenpack) so i tryed to mail him but his email doesnt exist anymore and his stuff been offline long time a go.
Out of respect I would ask you not to, but I can't stop you.
Its barely a month old beta anyways so I don't care. He is on hold anyway until I decide to finish him.
ye i respect you a'll just wait for you release and btw was it bloodninja who put in on the forum?
>:-(-| Question:No.
can i host Heartburnkid mugen stuff............im gettin a lot of request in my page (raw stage ,smackdown screenpack) so i tryed to mail him but his email doesnt exist anymore and his stuff been offline long time a go.
ye i respect you a'll just wait for you release and btw was it bloodninja who put in on the forum?... <_<|...| <_<|...| <_<|...| <_<|...|
EDIT:he was the guy who made The Rock and Stone Cold for Mugen right?it would be very good for your site being able to host his stuff...i don`t remember if that creator was applicable or not...
Hi, sorry for the late answer. Of course it's open source and you're free to
edit them.
Cirio.
You shall add Cirio to the opensource, a friend of mine send him an e-mail asking if he was opensource and here its the answernice, then I can create some of my svc/kof characters while referring on his creation as tutorials, great for making kof characters :) but for warusaki3's work, just only the cvs2 characters need to ask him but for his kof/svc creations, does that means that I could use his work without asking him?Quote from: cirioHi, sorry for the late answer. Of course it's open source and you're free to
edit them.
Cirio.
all that has been said before 8=|
I dunno if someone already said this but...
Warner's stuff is completely open source.
Okay, we have confirmation.
I'll clarify something about my works:i wish everyone was as smart as you.
1 - People should read the readme <_<|...|
2 - "Wide Open Source" in my work says: "it's open source, but, if you use, you MUST provide something open source in exchange". Last line of readme.
Let's say: you take my Takuma's edited sprites. Ok, then. Now you'll provide other thing (maybe Gunter's sprites, KOF NeoWave default hit & super sparks, KOF XI sounds, Gravity throw code, or anything else) for the comunity. I'll NOT seek or policy that. But that's a nice thing to do: "take a free one, give a free one"
I think N64 Mario mentioned something after he stopped MUGEN that his works are now open source as they no longer being worked on.
Nope you need to ask N64Mario permission to use his stuff.
He more than likely give you permission but he is not open source.
http://www.ioffer.com/i/-Everything-Vs-Everything-2D-Fighting-Game-MUGEN-3-DVDs-35195436 (http://www.ioffer.com/i/-Everything-Vs-Everything-2D-Fighting-Game-MUGEN-3-DVDs-35195436)
this bunghole is selling mugen on i-offer
Post Merge: April 08, 2009, 01:26:05 AM
hey it wasn't me who is selling this and i'm not promoting it, i actually hate the idea that somebody is earning some money on compilation of mugen works that is not his. it's suppose to be just a fan base and the creator of certain mugen chars/stages/etc should decide wheather he/she will sell it and thats if he can have some sort of license from capcom/electibite.
Rock Volnutt by Maitake is this open?
That was quite a few years ago now though, maybe asking again might have a different result.assume that someone on this team must know or able to reach him. can we try contacting him again? i was looking at his roll sprites.
assume that someone on this team must know or able to reach him. can we try contacting him again? i was looking at his roll sprites.
Get with Laspacho, he made contact when we tried before.
assume that someone on this team must know or able to reach him. can we try contacting him again? i was looking at his roll sprites.
"ZVitor is opensource?"
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Okay, could someone please tell me why this exists?Its not that easy. Some communities accepts it, some note. The idea is half right, half wrong.
I'm mainly asking this because I think the idea of some things being not open-source and the idea of permission very stupid. If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it. It's really that easy.
Its not that easy. Some communities accepts it, some note. The idea is half right, half wrong.Like I said, I don't really see the idea behind permission as something clever. However, I do think that the creator needs to be credited. Yes, CREDITED, but not more. As long as the user uses stuff from the creator for WORKSAFE things, crediting the creator IS enough to show respect to the creator, because crediting the creator means that that is was in fact the CREATOR who did it, and NOT the user of the creation.
For me, its just a matter of to have RESPECT and GOOD SENSE. Its polite to at least check with the creator about it, or at least to CREDIT him for that.
On cases of custom made stuff (like sprites), this is more delicated. Always contact the creator, at least is what I think.
The "If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it." rule is BS. There are many things on the internet that you can't simple modify as you want to.
Like I said, I don't really see the idea behind permission as something clever. However, I do think that the creator needs to be credited. Yes, CREDITED, but not more. As long as the user uses stuff from the creator for WORKSAFE things, crediting the creator IS enough to show respect to the creator, because crediting the creator means that that is was in fact the CREATOR who did it, and NOT the user of the creation.You create stuff from scratch then maybe you'll change your tune.
Permission, on the other hand, is just nonsense and not useful, because there are still people, who ignore ask for permission. And there is nothing that can be done against that, because it's FAN art. I know that stealing the work of someone else is stupid shouldn't be tolerated, but crediting someone is enough, and the "DON'T USE WITHOUT PERMISSION" will only encourage other people to exactly do the opposite, and since it's fan art, there is nothing that can be done against it.
Oh, and the "If you don't want someone to use your work, just don't release it." rule is NOT bull, but the only thing the creator can do if he doesn't want other people to use his creations, and it's extremely easy.
I don't see why someone can't just contact the creators of whatever first before releasing said re-work, true that crediting is the most important part of the process, but permission itself really is about respect enough to let that person know that whoever is going to take a stab at improvements on the work originally created, I say this coz I find some characters aren't entirely created by one person, and can ruffle features with work groups and projects
I mean why invest your time and effort and not be credited, or notified by whoever wishes to re create your work, most cases you'll see a "hell yeah, improve it for me" some cases a " no, I'm still updating that to be better"
I like to think that if a creator wants to work on something they can but pay respect enough to contact them about it, I've asked for "permission" plenty of times and usually if the creator can see an improvement from this they'll say yes
that said, open source rule is about communication, if you can't bother to respect that and hide behind "its the internet, it all free, why even bother" then good luck on making future relationships on help and trust within the communities in and around mugen, I think it's just common sense
I don't see why someone can't just contact the creators of whatever first before releasing said re-work, true that crediting is the most important part of the process, but permission itself really is about respect enough to let that person know that whoever is going to take a stab at improvements on the work originally created, I say this coz I find some characters aren't entirely created by one person, and can ruffle features with work groups and projects^^(PM)^ Thats life you speak of good ...Sir/ Lady. Many people just throw people under the bus for there own goals/ to obtain success. they can became successful but it is often a hard path and most often end up alone. Its all about networking and respect. And it is not common since those days. This world is very negative and value are becoming relics of the past.
I mean why invest your time and effort and not be credited, or notified by whoever wishes to re create your work, most cases you'll see a "hell yeah, improve it for me" some cases a " no, I'm still updating that to be better"
I like to think that if a creator wants to work on something they can but pay respect enough to contact them about it, I've asked for "permission" plenty of times and usually if the creator can see an improvement from this they'll say yes
that said, open source rule is about communication, if you can't bother to respect that and hide behind "its the internet, it all free, why even bother" then good luck on making future relationships on help and trust within the communities in and around mugen, I think it's just common sense
nah Race I wasn't talking about yourself, was talking in general when it come to these threads that get hi-jacked by the rebellious rule-haters :D I see It on most sites I visit, but like I see most of the points that brought up, and yeah they make sense, and proves hypocrits of everyone who get upset when they get their work used (or abused) all i'm sayin is pretty much what you said already, do whatever you feel is best, its really the work your crediting not the creator
skelotor-X not sure what you your asking me, maybe quote it so I can address it, not sure I need to though, i'm not really pro or con this discussion , i'm just bored and having a "lando-esk" essay-a-thon to pass the time
i'm pretty sure that's all "open-source" so I still don't get what you want me to answer
listen i'm not looking for a debate, I just viewed my opinion, as did everyone else, I never made the rules, but I respect them, even if it has its flaws, regardless, I know I can make creations without needing to use someone's else's work now, and if I don't I'll ask purely to show respect to the work.
i'm really not out to quote scripture or create a tablet of commandments, do whatever tickles your fancy and have fun, just be respectful to those who don't "believe" in the same thing, otherwise we'll once again create another mugen religion debate
I'm more than positive that NONE of you creators asked Capcom, SNK, etc to rip ANY of their sprites from their respective games.And here we go again. I keep hearing this kind of comment for about 14 years. And it keeps poping up...
I can't believe all the posts got deleted......SMHAre you freaking serious!
It wasn't even necessary, but then again... I'm not even surprised....
Last I checked, Xboy's sprites are open sourced, no?
Don't recall the source of this..but I'm not trying to spread misinformation.