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Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« on: January 27, 2015, 12:34:13 PM »
It's finally hit the web!

Fantastic Four | Official Teaser Trailer [HD] | 20th Century FOX

What do you guys think? I'm not sure how I feel. This is mostly a tease and meant to give us the feel and tone of the movie and not much else. I did like the colors in the trailer, they didn't use the dystopian "poop filter". lol
Is that one shot at the end of the trailer, could that have been Galactus? Do they still have the rights to him and Silver Surfer?
I'm curious how this will all be interpreted. There just isn't much to go on right now.
I'm not a big fan of FF anyway, so I it doesn't matter much to me. They're really going to have to bring something cool to the plate for me to really want to see this.

Until then, I guess I'll just wait for more.  :-w

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 01:05:02 PM »
Well the story seems like it's changed a bit, I mean unless that capsule they got in somehow transports them via some form of teleportation it doesn't look like it's going to space but hey movie universe right. Also I guess at 1:07 they're going to show us what Bane did on the plane ride to gotham?

Jokes aside I'm going to hold off cause this teaser didn't really give us much to go on other than it's going to be a long over drawn origin story like the last one was.



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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 02:06:25 PM »
I didn't notice the video description explains a lot till after my post. The experiment IS space travel, BUT it's inter-dimensional travel, kinda like interstellar. No rocket ship required. They appear in a different universe and that causes new powers.
Also notice that shot near the end with the four of them, the Thing is in the nude!?!?!?! Bahaha! He's pulling a Mystique!
There's also signs of Latveria existing. Perhaps the location of Dr. Doom? Or just "Doom" as he'll be called in the movie, as a computer hacker. Hmmmm.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 02:20:32 PM »
I'm just hoping we FINALLY get a good F4 movie.

BTW kinda surprised no one's whining about Black Human Torch

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 03:06:34 PM »
Most movie fan sites way back when Michael b Jordan was first casted, had plenty of racist things said, but I'm of the opinion if an actor can act, it shouldn't matter what shade of skin color they have, basically it would have been the same idiots that complain about Ian mckellen being gay, magneto was awesome, still is, a bit old but that still doesn't matter

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 03:08:13 PM »
I never cared about Micheal B Jordan being black, i just care about a good movie.

looks like I aint gettin mah wish. The Thing DOESN'T EVEN HAVE PANTS ON DUDE.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 04:13:11 PM »
I'm just hoping we FINALLY get a good F4 movie.

BTW kinda surprised no one's whining about Black Humtan Torch
I am and its because he is supposed to be Susans brother, other wise idc.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 04:26:45 PM »
I am and its because he is supposed to be Susans brother, other wise idc.
Maybe he was adopted, I dunno  :-??

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 04:30:06 PM »
Adding to what Rage just said...its confusing to new comic readers if ya ask me.
thats why i am takin this flick like a grain of salt...wtf and also....dont they look all unusually young...especially mr fantasic?  Dr Doom is a hacker....Wtf are they drinkin whoever wrote this script and casting?  /:O

 :-?? But i just dont get it i guess cause i like the original source material and cast identities. Maybe they had to change up stuff ...or maybe they just wanna change up for society reason. I dont need a black version of jonny storm if this pays homage to the original. .....give me solid black superheroes who are already originally black ( nubian) we have some who deserve spotlight too ya know.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 04:55:59 PM »
Adding to what Rage just said...its confusing to new comic readers if ya ask me.
thats why i am takin this flick like a grain of salt...wtf and also....dont they look all unusually young...especially mr fantasic?  Dr Doom is a hacker....Wtf are they drinkin whoever wrote this script and casting?  /:O

 :-?? But i just dont get it i guess cause i like the original source material and cast identities. Maybe they had to change up stuff ...or maybe they just wanna change up for society reason. I dont need a black version of jonny storm if this pays homage to the original. .....give me solid black superheroes who are already originally black ( nubian) we have some who deserve spotlight too ya know.
You know the whole diversity push bull that they are doing these days. You see more blacks, gays, lesbes, etc. shoehorned into things these day because they want to be tending even if it screws with the story.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2015, 05:12:20 PM »
Yep and i dont like it. Its one thing to actually do justice if they are actually part of the story than forcefeed them into some position they never we part of from jump. Its pretty ho hum if ya ask me. We got plenty of stories centered around many others to do  great movies ...... so why plant them there  in others ones just fill a social trend when it doesnt lend anything credible to the original or versionized story of the original? This is a reboot not a whole separate universe version. Which makes it kinda uhhhgggg And whyyyy!  o.O# damn hollywood i tell ya.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2015, 06:10:40 PM »
Um, actually, most super hero movie franchises ARE a separate universe. Most studios deviate, especially Fox's. This will be a huge departure from the original source. They're taking from the Ultimate FF a lot out, sounds like. Since this is a departure, there's not much need to worry about Human Torch's ethnicity. Also, Marvel is canceling the FF comic, so no need to worry about new readers, cause there won't be. :P I'm sure it's all explained in the movie. Either they're brother and sister with bi-racial parents, ones adopted, OR they're actually a married couple. At this point there's not much use comparing to comics. This is going to be really different. We've already had two movies that tried to match the comics. At least this isn't like Amazing Spiderman, where it literally was redoing the first movie. Even if this is mostly an origin story, it looks to be very different and exciting actually.

Anyone who doesn't like black HT, because the one in the comic isn't, are totally justified, IMO. It's not wrong to want to see it adapted exactly as is from the comics. Adding diversity for diversity's sake is annoying... Do consider how much of the character's identity actually revolves around being white, though. Not much I'd say.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2015, 06:23:20 PM »
The problem with this movie is that in prior interviews, they wanted to go down to earth. For a FANTASTIC 4 movie, this is the wrong idea. Especially since Marvel Studios proves that brighter movies can sell too.

Hell, even DC knows when to do it, since Shazam will have the proper tone instead of following the DCU tone.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2015, 06:27:51 PM »
Yeah Fox def seems to have a penchant for that Twin. Lol.  To me, if its separate  then make sure folks who ARE comic intuned know that it is and where ya drawing it from. If its the ultimate version...clarify it is. Just do not sell me a reboot that isnt a real reboot. To me anyway. Lol. If anything if this is ultimates universe story then fine, bam case closed. If not....the debate and debacle continues.  XD|| lol

No matter cuz they doing away with the FF comic, new readers doesnt mean they starting from new material. I got a neph that reads older comics to gain the originality aspects of the comics vs movie versions and boy do we have discussions. Lol. I can see what ya mean tho but ahhhhhhh still. Lol

Ya pretty much Said what i was thinkin on that next paragraph bro. Lol

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2015, 07:08:47 PM »
Well I have been reading some of you guy´s opinions and actually I do mind about the black torch, mind you that this is not a race disput, it´s just that I really hate when they deviate from the original source in this particular case.
I mean this is not "Assassin´s Creed", it´s the fantatic four, what is the need?
I usually have a very pratical view of things, so for me, if you are going to change something it´s has got to have a pratical meaning to it and in this case I just can´t see it.
Take Brian Singer´s X-men movies for instance (I don´t think they´re awesome but I liked them), what was the point in changing some characters "bios", like ice-man dating rogue and what not? Don´t get me wrong, I think the diretors have the right to experiment or have different aproaches, but it they are going to make a movie based on a comic or a game they have to choose wisely. And in most cases, they haven´t in my opinion.
Well, just my two cents on the debate, in the meantime like everybody I guess I´ll wait and see!
     

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2015, 08:22:52 PM »
I know this is a bit off topic, but ... they're canning the comics?!  /:O Are they gonna get killed off or will they still be around, but as guest stars in other comics?

Why is it that my favorite superhero group can never catch a break  :-w

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2015, 09:17:29 PM »
I know this is a bit off topic, but ... they're canning the comics?!  /:O Are they gonna get killed off or will they still be around, but as guest stars in other comics?

This is old, OLD news, like from august at least.

anyway they'll still be around, but no comic for them because "it promotes the other studio's film" even though this film isn't supposed to be anything like the comic.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2015, 09:53:00 PM »
This is old, OLD news, like from august at least.

anyway they'll still be around, but no comic for them because "it promotes the other studio's film" even though this film isn't supposed to be anything like the comic.
I guess I'm still in shock in it. Haha.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2015, 11:23:34 PM »
Maybe he was adopted, I dunno  :-??

A good point-

If we're going to be honest about this, it doesn't matter what changes they've made, all that matters is that they've made changes, and that's a bad sign.

"Cautious optimism" is whats called for here. If it sucks, the only way to keep this from becoming "Bayformers", is to send a clear message, don't see it, let it bomb, eventually Marvel will get the rights back. 
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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2015, 11:31:50 PM »
Very interesting points of view. I'm really liking this discussion. It shows us how people view adaptions differently.

Lando, you bring a good point, if its based off a comic, many will wonder where is most of the creative inspiration coming from? I usually expect it to follow the "main" comic universe. Often though they seem to pick and choose between that and ultimate.

Laforga, you're totally in the right for wanting a pure adaptation of the source material, without it ever being considered a racial dispute.

I believe most everyone here are logical thinking adults. The black torch issue has never been a racial dispute, it's a problem with adaptation of a beloved character that we want to see brought to the screen the way we remember him from the comic. Nothing changed, period. Sadly that's often very hard to pull off while making for a good cinematic experience. Just look at the previous FF movies. What I would like to know is, was Jordan cast among a mixed group of young actors and he turned out to be the best pick? Or was torch's character changed in the script for a reason?


At this point I think we shouldn't compare it to the comic on a high end level, but rather see if each member on the team does a good job bringing the ESSENCE of their character to life. Even though the origin, "costumes" and who knows what else are different. In the video description there's a link to the director and script writer commentary through the trailer, they discuss some interesting points that sound cool to me. Such as, they want to get the family dynamics down right. FF is a family, not just a team.
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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2015, 11:45:13 PM »
I like this interpenetration of the F4.  It's seems slightly darker, a bit more deeper than the previous films. 
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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2015, 11:51:45 PM »
I saw the trailer and I've seen some of the interviews of the film but it doesn't make me want to see this film right away. I can wait until Blue Ray or when it's about to leave theaters. I'm going to be honest here.... I haven't read a FF comic in yrs. I haven't even read the new reboot of either Marvel or DC universes comics either, so I can't say what direction these movies are going because for all I know they have changed all their origins from the previous begginings of the comics to how they are now a days. As for me personally, I don't like it because I grew up on the older comics and these modern versions may look cooler and their stories may be intriguing but still I don't quite like it. That Michael whoever he is I've seen him in other films and to me he's not a good good actor, decent but not good. Plus Johnny Storm is white and not black and he's susan's BLOOD brother. Not adopted or anything like that he's BLOOD brother to susan. All the actors in the film are way to young and it's stupid on the direction they're taking this film eventhough I do like the darker tone the film is being approached but still not enough. Now the thing supposed to have at least shorts and not being nude. Jeeze if you want to see naked just go look at porn, come on people. Reed supposed to be older and have his white hair side burns and for CHRIST sakes why is DOCTOR DOOM a hacker!!!! WTF! he's not the dictator of his own country with his trademark uniform. OMG!!! Anyways like I said before, I don't know what direction they're taking this film but the first trailer doesn't show much. The parallel universe travel thing is a neat concept and the light in the end could be anything but let's hope it's GALACTUS or at least Silver Surfur calling to GALACTUS. The film supposed to come out in August so we'll see in the next coming months what other trailers they come out that shows more of the movie. Still not impressed.  *Iceman ThumbsDown!*  <_<|...|  \-/o  :|

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2015, 02:10:23 AM »
Its actually Susan that would be the adopted sibling
if you seen the trailer, the voice over guy is actually johnny's dad
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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2015, 02:59:32 AM »
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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2015, 09:15:44 AM »
After a day of thinking about it, I feel I've finally figured what I like and don't like about this trailer.
If you take away the FF name and change the character names, this movie appears to be very GENERIC. Just like a lot of the recent sci-fi teen action movies, like the Giver or Divergent or whatever dumb titles (Dawn of the Ascending Insurgence Rises :P).
However, since this IS the FF and there's a very strong focus on science and discovery, I'm interested in seeing this film. Not because I think it will be really great, but because I feel there's a chance they have a really neat spin on the FF universe and how to approach them with a new twist.
Unless that twist to the FF is really genius, I feel this movie will be very generic. Not bad, just.... generic. :-/

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2015, 12:33:36 PM »
Like I said earlier, Movie Universe.

Once to many liberties have been taken that's just where my mind goes and I no longer care if it's faithful to a specific comic as long as they do the name justice and this movie with the younger cast, ethnicity changes, character changers(Doom is a hacker?), origin changes and what have you all we're left with is character names and powers(Looking at you Dragonball Evolution and The last air bender and possibly Batman vs Superman).

So at this point all I can hope for is that the movie is good and we don't end up with another Ghost Rider(or the movies I mentioned above) and from this teaser there isn't much to go off of.



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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2015, 02:46:28 PM »
Twinimage......its a sci fi channnel well done generic remake  bro.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2015, 03:39:59 PM »
"Dawn of Fantastic 4: D00M Rising"

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2015, 04:48:47 PM »
I have some reasons to think this one won't be good:

- Black Human Torch - I honestly hate when they change the ethnic group. Seriously, I'm not racist (I'd hate if someone like Storm ended up white), but having this forced change of such a famous character. If they want good black characters, then give attention to the ones they already have, like Black Panther.
- Hacker Dr. Doom - I heard things about he being a hacker or an evil programmer... like... a forever alone or a hater? Instead of the powerful ruler of Latveria?
- Cast - Not only this one is already underwhelming compared to the original, but it looks unfitting to the characters themselves, they look like a bunch of teens.

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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2015, 11:11:08 PM »
I have some reasons to think this one won't be good:

- Black Human Torch - I honestly hate when they change the ethnic group. Seriously, I'm not racist

Ok I'm going to say this about the whole black thing, it isn't racist to point out that they've changed his race.

Here's the fun part-

It IS however very racist to change a character's race because you think that will make more money. Bare in mind, Marvel isn't making this movie. This studio has one goal in mind, to make money, this isn't a labor of love, crafted for long time fans, everything they will do with these characters is to meet that goal, that includes any changes they make. Therefore, the only conclusion is this, they do not believe the traditional Torch character is interesting enough, they believe more people will see him as interesting or controversial (movie buzz) if they alter his race. It's a gimmick, they do not have confidence in Stan Lee's traditional Fantastic Four. Thus they are using race as a means to an end........That's "Race baiting."

 This isn't Marvel's vision of the FF, they don't want them represented in this manner. They do not support the changes made. Thus, out of respect, nor shall I.
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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2015, 02:39:33 AM »
Ok I'm going to say this about the whole black thing, it isn't racist to point out that they've changed his race.

Here's the fun part-

It IS however very racist to change a character's race because you think that will make more money. Bare in mind, Marvel isn't making this movie. This studio has one goal in mind, to make money, this isn't a labor of love, crafted for long time fans, everything they will do with these characters is to meet that goal, that includes any changes they make. Therefore, the only conclusion is this, they do not believe the traditional Torch character is interesting enough, they believe more people will see him as interesting or controversial (movie buzz) if they alter his race. It's a gimmick, they do not have confidence in Stan Lee's traditional Fantastic Four. Thus they are using race as a means to an end........That's "Race baiting."

 This isn't Marvel's vision of the FF, they don't want them represented in this manner. They do not support the changes made. Thus, out of respect, nor shall I.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2015, 08:18:46 AM »
Well Sky79 you do have a point, but i´m not sure that is entirely the case. In my opinion I think Chronicle´s director just plainly feels that Michael B. Jordan can embody the character, he has worked with him before plus he is clearly more concerned with his vision of the fantastic four than reproducing the original material. The fact that this is a Fox movie only furthers this vision, as they are widely known for altering the material as they see fit, something in the lines of "the means justify the purpose".
Personally I don´t agree with this method as I have stated before and yes, money drives a lot of influence but I think they just like to temper with the source material, like giving it their own personal touch. Sadly or not the general public opinion and the box office has proved them right so far.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2015, 10:56:32 AM »
Ok I'm going to say this about the whole black thing, it isn't racist to point out that they've changed his race.

Here's the fun part-

It IS however very racist to change a character's race because you think that will make more money. Bare in mind, Marvel isn't making this movie. This studio has one goal in mind, to make money, this isn't a labor of love, crafted for long time fans, everything they will do with these characters is to meet that goal, that includes any changes they make. Therefore, the only conclusion is this, they do not believe the traditional Torch character is interesting enough, they believe more people will see him as interesting or controversial (movie buzz) if they alter his race. It's a gimmick, they do not have confidence in Stan Lee's traditional Fantastic Four. Thus they are using race as a means to an end........That's "Race baiting."

 This isn't Marvel's vision of the FF, they don't want them represented in this manner. They do not support the changes made. Thus, out of respect, nor shall I.

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Ok i am a black man... ( ok actually i am brown...i am not same color as my black pants... nubian thank you. Lol) and i for 1 finds this change kinda offensive in the way of....changin him from one ethnicticity most commonly known and built an entire history off of to another just to bankroll or cause comic fandom chaos.  This is why the whole letting other companies get rights to your stuff fails at times. Marvel needs to get them damn rights back and keep them!

Ok i want to see more black superheroes other than just Black Panther, we have plenty that can get some spotlight. But to change someone to a whole nother ethnicticity to say well ya put one in......GTFOH ! I dont care if the flick does well....its still stupid......and yes its demoralizing In some areas depending on your own outlook of it.

Oh and the whole Twilight Fantastic 4 teen vibe look....GTFOH with that too. Change can be a good thing and can be a bad thing. Somethings just shoukdnt be messed with unless ya gonna do it justice for the sake of not just earning money ( yes thats always the main point tho. Lol ) but if going off already laid material i always think it shoukd be done well within that materials works. Some spins are cool but dont go total overboard.

Yeah Doom is a hacker......Fox.....GTFOH says the hobo. Repect is lost on that . \-/o

I only will give this a free pass if this is based on some Ultimate universe version. Other than that...it can kick cinderblocks barefooted! 
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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2015, 01:03:20 PM »
I think what makes this so difficult is we don't have all the details. We don't really know what went down in Fox studios to change the human torch. We don't truly know if this is strictly political or if Jordan was the best pick for their vision and he happened to be black. Sadly we will probably never know.
Us comic fans know that Johnny is white... But imagine all the people who don't know and won't make a difference for them. It's important to us because we know the material and take the littlest changes as them saying the material we love isn't good enough.
Pretty much, let's try not to assume too much for now. ;)

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2015, 02:21:29 PM »
Imma try not to assume real hard Twin from what i do know now of it....but i will be side eyeing fox the whole time waiting to see what is really gonna go down with this flick. Better blow my dang mind i tell ya. Lol

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2015, 02:35:52 PM »
I think what makes this so difficult is we don't have all the details. We don't really know what went down in Fox studios to change the human torch. We don't truly know if this is strictly political or if Jordan was the best pick for their vision and he happened to be black. Sadly we will probably never know.
Us comic fans know that Johnny is white... But imagine all the people who don't know and won't make a difference for them. It's important to us because we know the material and take the littlest changes as them saying the material we love isn't good enough.
Pretty much, let's try not to assume too much for now. ;)
Its nothing but click bait as i sad b4. Look at us now talking about it. Do you think we are the only ones. To be frank i would have not every paid the movie any mind if it wasn't  for johnny being black. Here are the reason;

F4 are not that reverent these days and are pretty lame compared to all the other options out there these days.

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The History fox has had with it Marvel movies. One movie can't save a ship, "Days of FP", and   "Wolve2" doesnt count because people are sick of him like batman but they do make money.

Thats all it is, click bait. I wouldn't even see the movie if it wasn't for black johnny and i am not paying to see it. Fox doesn't deserve my money. At the end of the day that's why these thing are shoehorned, because it is click bait. People love negativity, controversy, and using these as a ploy its a great way to help draw sales.

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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2015, 07:50:40 PM »
Let's be realistic, they are going to make 2 movies out of this version and then in about 9 years marvel will end up back with the right to Fantastic 4...
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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2015, 08:11:57 PM »
Let's be realistic, they are going to make 2 movies out of this version and then in about 9 years marvel will end up back with the right to Fantastic 4...

 XD|| I hope so, but maybe sooner, doom, Galactus and silver surfer need to join as antagonists in avengers

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2015, 10:02:47 AM »
Black Human Torch - I honestly hate when they change the ethnic group. Seriously, I'm not racist (I'd hate if someone like Storm ended up white), but having this forced change of such a famous character. If they want good black characters, then give attention to the ones they already have, like Black Panther.

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I totally agree. Why change a such beloved characters race when they could easily concentrate on other awesome black characters. I'm still waiting for Michael Jai White to play Luke Cage in a Heroes For Hire movie. I think Kerry Washington could be a good choice for Monica Rambeau/Captain Marvel... Idris Elba as John Stewart/Green Lantern... even Michael B. Jordan properly cast as Cyborg in a live action Teen Titans film. There are plenty of good black Super Heroes... Hollywood is just filled to the brim with idiots and there BS!!!

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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2015, 10:26:45 AM »
Michael B. Jordan properly cast as Cyborg in a live action Teen Titans film.
did you know he ALREADY played Cyborg once? he was cyborg in Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox (a beefed out, upgraded as hell Cyborg to be precise) so he already has experience playing him.

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Re: Fantastic Four Trailer 2015
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2015, 10:57:51 AM »
He was cyborg in Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox (a beefed out, upgraded as hell Cyborg to be precise)
You forgot "with an ugly design like every male (and a few females) in that horrid film"

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