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IMT Projects => Super Marvel vs. Capcom: Eternity of Heroes => Topic started by: Acey on March 07, 2010, 11:07:59 AM

Title: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 07, 2010, 11:07:59 AM
As various other odds and ends are being taken care of I'v been using some free time to make some much needed changes to old characters.

Storm:
I was watching Storm in demo mode last night and decided to just fix up her face a little but some other itmes ended up getting a minor fix too. So I lengthened Storm's torso, shrunk her hips a little, tamed the hair just a bit and a few face items, her nose, eyes and neck basically:

(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9249/stormh.gif)

Colossus:
I've thought for the longest time that Colossus looks great, the only probelm was that Capcom gave him a big nose, and he never had a big nose in the comics so here he got a nose job. I also ended up lightening his eyes, closing his mouth, moving his jaw and reshaping his head.

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6609/colossus.gif)

Rogue:
I don't kow if I ever showed this before but Since Kong gave Rogue flight I've been redoing her flight sprites.

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1869/rogue.gif)

Haggar:
Lastly, I have been giving Haggar updated animations as well. He has a few new punches as well as the ability to jump and air attack while holding the lead pipe now.

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/659/haggar.gif)
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Worksa8 on March 07, 2010, 11:20:27 AM
Cool.If you guys make a new EOH rogue, you should really take the whole idea of Parasite in mind. Stuff her with so many powers that a zip file would probably explode xD
She could mimic the powers of all the EOH combatants...and if you were really generous, other comic characters in the Mugen universe. As it stands there is no rogue that keeps my attention for very long, they all seem to just giver her a random boost on attack or something.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Nestor on March 07, 2010, 11:30:29 AM
I like the new Storm and Colossus designs, even when minor, it's good to see this overhaul :).
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 07, 2010, 12:48:11 PM
Cool.If you guys make a new EOH rogue, you should really take the whole idea of Parasite in mind. Stuff her with so many powers that a zip file would probably explode xD
She could mimic the powers of all the EOH combatants...and if you were really generous, other comic characters in the Mugen universe. As it stands there is no rogue that keeps my attention for very long, they all seem to just giver her a random boost on attack or something.

Rogue will eventually be able to steal all the powers of the EoH fighters but it won't happen for the next release unfortunately. I built a spreadsheet of the powers that will need to be made so the process has begun though.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 07, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Rogue will eventually be able to steal all the powers of the EoH fighters but it won't happen for the next release unfortunately. I built a spreadsheet of the powers that will need to be made so the process has begun though.

That is definitely great news.

BTW the new sprites look great. The Rogue & Hagar are probably my favorites
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: .Batzarro. on March 07, 2010, 01:29:34 PM
Storm's my fav from those. Minor changes that made a huge difference. Looking forward to seeing more on her. :)

Can't wait to see Rogue start getting all her power sets also.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Weapon x program on March 07, 2010, 01:31:43 PM
if you do the nose like you want on every colossus sprite, it won t be just a minor work, these little details are time consuming.  
GOOD LUCK   %%-
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Vitamin on March 07, 2010, 04:37:16 PM
Storms my Favorite, and she looks fantastic!  I always thought the creators made her a little bit too thick.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Ununsed-Username on March 07, 2010, 05:11:11 PM
Who knew such minor changes could do such great work, loving everything! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Playing Enemy on March 07, 2010, 05:20:08 PM
Those all look really good, nicely done. It might just be me, but Storm's right leg seems a little skinny compared to the other one. Other than that, she looks really good. I really liked what you did with Colossus and Haggar too, can't wait to try them out.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 07, 2010, 08:03:54 PM
Those all look really good, nicely done. It might just be me, but Storm's right leg seems a little skinny compared to the other one. Other than that, she looks really good. I really liked what you did with Colossus and Haggar too, can't wait to try them out.  :thumbsup:

You're right, I thinned out the right leg more than the left so I'll need to go back and touch that up.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Rage on March 07, 2010, 09:51:05 PM
nice work. i love ur work on Haggy and Colossus. Storm is a beautiful looking sprite but i think it needs some tweaking. He right are is a bit to muscular and it looks as if its out of socket. If its the puffy shirt like the original then a lil more work is needed. I love what you did with the face and hair. She looks so F'ing sexy  now . . .OMG. One other thing that should be address is the left leg. A lil thiner or toned. I love the work. ^:)^

(http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/storm-better-stance.gif)(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9249/stormh.gif)

edit: LOL the original Storm always made me think of Oprah.   :'(  not any more tho  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Tenspeed on March 07, 2010, 11:36:50 PM
wow. such light changes taht make such a heavy improvement. I really like them.

the only thing that gets me is haggar's pipe. it seems too small.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: moonmaster1 on March 07, 2010, 11:46:47 PM
The pipe would be medium sized if cody or guy was holding it.

Final fight's pipes are usually alot smaller in comparison to say, streets of rage's.

All in all, This is very cool acey. It most likely be a long drawn out process, but at least it will make up for alot of capcom's silly mistakes.

Will the other two wolverines be ridden of their rubber claw stance in the distant future?
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Tenspeed on March 07, 2010, 11:52:46 PM
I am aware of the fact that the pipes were small in the old final fight games, but I still think the sprites would be improved in this game by having bigger pipes.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: moonmaster1 on March 07, 2010, 11:59:02 PM
I'm sure It could be fixed with a few pixels.

The pipe has so many directions it can go as its always facing upwards.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 08, 2010, 05:24:41 AM
Will the other two wolverines be ridden of their rubber claw stance in the distant future?

lol, ZVitor made a stance for Maskless Worlerine that was pretty good and had no jangly claws, so we'll see, but BoneClaw wolverine will retain the original stance regardless.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Playing Enemy on March 08, 2010, 05:56:09 AM
Now that Haggar's pipe was pointed out, it does look a little weird. Instead of changing it's size, since it's accurate like you said, maybe you could just give it a little depth so it doesn't look flat (2d). I keep forgetting these aren't finished yet though, so you were probably already going to do that, but just in case, I guess it is still good to be said.  ;)
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Tenspeed on March 08, 2010, 11:54:53 AM
watch around the "1:05" mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch# (http://www.youtube.com/watch#)!v=9Gju2RPkZIM
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 08, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
That is pretty much the finished pipe as I was planning to have it. I agree, it was much, much bigger in the actual game, looks like I have some food for tought.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: warecus on March 08, 2010, 08:00:04 PM
anychance of combining those 3 xmen with projectx to lighten the load?
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Shadow_p3 on March 08, 2010, 08:14:07 PM
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9249/stormh.gif)

 AWESOME :o

I love this look, congrats

Something i think can be changed is the clothes... i don't know, maybe a movie trilogy style...

Well, maybe a pallete... is just my feeling  :P

Excellent sprite edit

See ya'  :)
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on March 09, 2010, 12:16:19 AM
I'm loving storm's new look.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 09, 2010, 04:13:35 AM
anychance of combining those 3 xmen with projectx to lighten the load?

X-Fields knows that they can have anything I make.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: zombiejerky on March 21, 2010, 08:39:38 PM
nice work on hagger and sence your fixing up these characters will the original  be there to
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on May 04, 2010, 07:34:46 PM
When will we see this amazing overhaul in action?! WHEN?!!!
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 15, 2011, 11:29:28 PM
So I'm still going at it with sprite updates in all my characters. I'm keeping a matrix of what needs to be done with everyone and I'm getting a lot checked off the list.

Haggar has had his throws updated again as well as a variety of game play aspects. He was also a test dummy on a new style of realistic AI I had been working on for a while. Only thing left to do on Haggar now is to update his AI into mugen 1.0 standards and make his electrified animation. He has a new intro and win pose as well. Below is a shot of his new jumping punch "with pipe active" animation.

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/659/haggar.gif)

Human Torch has been begging for sprite updates and even though I did a variety of touch ups over the years all his normal attacks have remained basically the same, well no longer, we're going for complete sprite harmonization here with many moves just simply replaced. His controlls have been changed as well as a lot of his timing. I've decided to leave most of the fire fx seprate form the character now wihch allows the fire to keep burning even during hitpauses.

(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1782/humantorch.gif)

As seen in my sig Blanka has a new stance to make him feel more serious. I've been working on the rest of the sprite set to make sure it all matches and he's still a work in progress.
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5889/blanka2.gif)

And for those who caught it in the graphic arts section, I'm getting all the iced sprites installed into all the characters too now.
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7185/icedm.png)
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Space (DCL) on March 15, 2011, 11:44:26 PM
So...How ya gonna freeze Iceman? lol
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: -Whiplash- on March 15, 2011, 11:50:29 PM
Uhhh... can you give me some tips on how to make a good freeze sprite? I've been having a lot of trouble on my Onomatopoiea's Frozen sprite.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: davismaximus on March 16, 2011, 12:49:04 AM
Great work on all the updates so far.  I did have a couple of questions regarding Haggar, though.  I know you said you're updating his throws, does that include the spritework?  The only reason I ask is that his grab sprite looks a bit lackluster, specifically where his arm meets his shoulder:
(http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq243/davismaximus/hags.gif)
Secondly, I was wondering if you were planning on doing any color separation for him, as his shoes and shoulder strap are shared with his skin and hair. 

Either way, it's nice to see you doing such great work with everything you've done.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: LarsAlexandersson on March 16, 2011, 03:37:08 AM
Will Haggar has some of his MvC3 moves & ENG voices
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 16, 2011, 11:37:03 AM
Great work on all the updates so far.  I did have a couple of questions regarding Haggar, though.  I know you said you're updating his throws, does that include the spritework?  The only reason I ask is that his grab sprite looks a bit lackluster, specifically where his arm meets his shoulder:
(http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq243/davismaximus/hags.gif)
Secondly, I was wondering if you were planning on doing any color separation for him, as his shoes and shoulder strap are shared with his skin and hair. 

Either way, it's nice to see you doing such great work with everything you've done.

The throw sprite looks exactactly the same as the sprite posted there, and unfortunately Haggar will not get palette separation. There just isn't a point to it.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on March 16, 2011, 06:17:11 PM
I've been wondering. Outside of that frozen sprite, what kind of updates can we see for Green Goblin
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 16, 2011, 06:19:41 PM
I've been wondering. Outside of that frozen sprite, what kind of updates can we see for Green Goblin

Green Goblin hasn't gotten much time yet but...

*Hyper pause time
*launcher ariel raves
*move canceling
*minor graphical work
*handbag
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: davismaximus on March 16, 2011, 10:31:43 PM
The throw sprite looks exactactly the same as the sprite posted there, and unfortunately Haggar will not get palette separation. There just isn't a point to it.

That's cool, I'm still lookin forward to the updated Haggs, as all the new stuff looks awesome. 

 >:-(-|
In regards to the color separation, are there any tutorials out there on how to do color separation on an existing character?  I can't code or sprite for anything, but I'd like to try my hand at that for a few characters.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on March 16, 2011, 11:03:10 PM
When do we see the updates in action?
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on March 16, 2011, 11:35:14 PM
Green Goblin hasn't gotten much time yet but...

*Hyper pause time
*launcher ariel raves
*move canceling
*minor graphical work
*handbag
Sounds great. If I may throw in my two cents, I'd like to suggest that maybe some of his basics could be changed to look less like Spidey's and MAYBE remove the Gwen Stacy intro

Just my opinion
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Acey on March 17, 2011, 10:28:43 AM
Will Haggar has some of his MvC3 moves & ENG voices

Both Haggar and Arthur are maintaining their pre-mvc3 game style. I considered hard revamping them totally (which would be easy for Arthur since my version is much more complex than the MvC3 version code wise) but it's not worth it. Someday we'll get our hands on MvC3 sprites then we'll really get to work on MvC3 characters.

Sounds great. If I may throw in my two cents, I'd like to suggest that maybe some of his basics could be changed to look less like Spidey's and MAYBE remove the Gwen Stacy intro

Just my opinion

Some new basics, that makes a lot of sense, but he won't be losing the Gwen Stacy intro.
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on March 19, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Also I just noticed, maybe it's just my compe, but some of Green Goblin's voice clips sound muffled
Title: Re: EoH Minor Sprite work
Post by: Slayer on March 20, 2011, 01:01:45 AM
Best looking Storm Ever! =D>

She looks incredible, best design I've ever seen for her, I have to say I've never liked capcom's version nor any other Storm edit, you are doing a fantastic job on her.
I want to make a little suggestion, is there any chance she could lose her shoulder pads?
Always thought they were awful. :P

Good luck on all your projects.
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