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IMT Projects => DC Universe => Topic started by: ColdPyro on May 20, 2009, 08:32:24 PM
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I talked to acey awhile ago about putting freeze and riddler in the project.
As of right now riddler has alot done all basics are almost done still gotta convert whites cane to the riddler staff I could really use a coder and maybe if someone wants to go over the sprite work i got too touch it up a little for the best outcome that would be awesome.
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Ive decided to go back and kind of redo the riddler want it to look as good as i can get it so i made my own base so far all i got is the stance concept for the new riddler and im probably going to add some of my old sprites too this just have to edit them a little bit.
I could use help with spriting and I need a coder so please if anyone wants in let me know.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/newriddlerwip.png)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/newpallet.png)
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old
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/riddlerpal.png)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/riddlerstance.gif) (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/theriddlerwip-1.png) (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/kneel.png)
just a few sprites dont want to show too much don't want nothing to get taken.
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He is looking awesome ColdPyro :thumbsup:
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wow he looks great! What kind of attacks would he have? All I remember is that he threw clues at Batman
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=D> He Looks Perfect
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Still working on some ideas going to take things from the comics and the animated series and yea the movie
figured hell have the brain drain move staff attacks like how he can use his staff for the brain drain to daze the opponent he can maybe use it to shoot lasers or something just an idea hell have stuff from the animated series like the hand and minotaurs as maybe assists. And of course most hypers will be riddler challenges if it can be done like picking the right answer to a series of questions and if the wrong thing is picked the riddler will explode.
Basic attacks will use his staff
Specials will execute specials from the staff
-brain drain
-lasers
-rapid riddler staff attack
Hypers will be mostly riddle based
-Different riddles still not sure how to make this work correctly because im sure someone will figure it out and then everytime the cpu executes a riddle you would know so maybe combination riddles or something
-minotaur assist (2 different minotaur hypers
-hand of fate
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Great use of the staff in those ideas.
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He looks fantastic!
Some suggestions on his appaerance.
- He should have a question mark on his tie and hat maybe?
- The face needs a little bit of work-up so maybe he looks like TAS Riddler.
Other than that, great! May I ask who you're using as a base?
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Glad to see this char join the project. :)
He looks fantastic!
Some suggestions on his appaerance.
- He should have a question mark on his tie and hat maybe?
- The face needs a little bit of work-up so maybe he looks like TAS Riddler.
Other than that, great! May I ask who you're using as a base?
The base is White (KOF) and I agree on the question mark on the tie. Don't remember him ever having one on his hat though.
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You're right he doesn't have one on the hat, just the tie.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/Animated_Riddler.jpg)
He should look more or less like this when he's done but it looks like you're on the right path. He just needs some work on his face, that's all.
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hmm thought the face looked alright but im open for ideas if someone wants to go over my work and change the face maybe an assistant spriter for this that would be awesome and yea i been thinking about adding the question mark i got a few sprites with the question mark just when i started this wip i was going for the whole Batman Hush story riddler where he doesnt have all that its more basic but as i went on I thought it would be awesome to have different pallets for different versions of riddler.
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It's just the lips and the hair that need improvement.
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Excellent work!
An idea for a hyper: you can take the example of Faust, he have a super where he summons four boxes, a ghost will come from one of them, then Faust slices the opponent. My idea is to have Riddler summons the four boxes (or six, one to each button), and depending on the button you press, a different box will open, with a different effect of course!
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and you gotta make one with question marks all over his suit, for the old head (like me) who's been waiting for the riddle.
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The shirt/tie area needs just a little work. It looks like the lines from Whites puffy shirt just had the detail removed, and colored. I have the same criticism of Joker for the DCVM project that his vest looks tucked into his pants because the detail was overlooked just a tad (still a fantastic character though)
I think for this kinda project that the detail is important.
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Someone asked about attacks, and think that's a good question. I do have a suggestion...why not use "The Batman" as a base for attacks for Riddler? He was kinda a good fighter in there...just a thought
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/riddlerstance.gif)
His pants change shading from a frame to another, is misaligned (easy fix) and the soulder from the staff arm moves weird...
gluck
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It is surprising that the look has. :o
He is a great villain for Batman.
good luck ::salute::
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o48/Mindreaper21/riddler.jpg?t=1242930091)
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and you gotta make one with question marks all over his suit, for the old head (like me) who's been waiting for the riddle.
Sorry thats not likely too happen that might only be seen in a intro or ending or maybe a hyper like how scruffys batman has all the different batmans in the hyper there might be something like that with riddler alt attires im thinking right now with the win pose he will be standing there making a shhh like pose with his finger over his mouth then maybe in every win pose the attire will change maybe. --Mr E-- haha just watched batman forever he has alot of awesome stuff in that
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y would we take it it is too awsome
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tus sprites son muy buenos por que no creas el char
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wow amazing sprites nice work!!!
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thinking about starting over kind of on the riddler and creating something from scratch im working on something right now and it looks alot better then what i got im still going to probably keep the get hits some of them that i got and edit them a little.
side note thinking about making a private forum for everyone working on the batman project so we can all help each other and trade ideas that way we can probably get stuff done and create something better
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New one is a step down rather than an improvement.
Scratching doesn't mesh well with Capcom style, especially not pillow shading. That's a fine TAS Riddler, but you'll probably want to be sticking to bases for a full char.
Look for bases wearing suits - Matrimelee has a few, as does AoF. White wasn't a bad choice, but his animations are really limited. Good luck.
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New one is a step down rather than an improvement.
Scratching doesn't mesh well with Capcom style, especially not pillow shading. That's a fine TAS Riddler, but you'll probably want to be sticking to bases for a full char.
Look for bases wearing suits - Matrimelee has a few, as does AoF. White wasn't a bad choice, but his animations are really limited. Good luck.
I agree, I am more fond of the first stance you had going there. ANC listed a few great bases to pull from as well.
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New one is a step down rather than an improvement.
Scratching doesn't mesh well with Capcom style, especially not pillow shading. That's a fine TAS Riddler, but you'll probably want to be sticking to bases for a full char.
Look for bases wearing suits - Matrimelee has a few, as does AoF. White wasn't a bad choice, but his animations are really limited. Good luck.
does anyone have any links to maybe where to find these sprites
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does anyone have any links to maybe where to find these sprites
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/ (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/)
just click on sprites.
Power Instinct Matrimelee and Art of Fighting 3 are all right there.
:)
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It is surprising that the look has. :o
He is a great villain for Batman.
good luck ::salute::
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o48/Mindreaper21/riddler.jpg?t=1242930091)
That poster looks awesome! Obviously, the character looks pretty cool as well. Can't wait to se the finished product.
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http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/ (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/)
just click on sprites.
Power Instinct Matrimelee and Art of Fighting 3 are all right there.
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I looked at a few of them couldnt really find any that wear a suite and tie or just a suite without a tie any character suggestions
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Personally I think you were on the right track with White as base. No one has really released a decent character edited from him. I think you should take a look a Jay Highs edit from a year or so back, and make it look like this. I'm sure I could help get permission for this. If you need any help, just holla
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5836/whiteriddlersp8.png)
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only problem being is someone else is making clock king using white as base for this project
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Cold pyro i luv ur avatar man i remember when i use to wear famous back in the day lol
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Took a cue from the tie and palette on that old edit Alexziq posted. White top, Eagle bottom. Kain from MotW would be a great third base for extra kicks. White alone won't work, he's missing numerous basic motions, as he was a boss character originally. All the same, he's probably the best top you could work from for Eddie.
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7237/riddler.png)
Good luck. I wouldn't worry about the other WIP using White. Riddler outprioritizes Clock King, and that fellow would be better off using Clock King's newer 'Long hair and trench' look, anyway.
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only problem being is someone else is making clock king using white as base for this project
Actually no, Clock King is not for this project.
Just to avoid confusion there are 2 new Batman projects. IMT's of course, and Spiderbat, Super_Joker, Spooky, and I's. I'm sure there are others as well. So there wont be 2 white bases in your project. While the newer Clock King may look better to some I think the version were tackeling is more based on the animated version. Its still in early developement so I'm sure it will continue to improve visually.
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Took a cue from the tie and palette on that old edit Alexziq posted. White top, Eagle bottom. Kain from MotW would be a great third base for extra kicks. White alone won't work, he's missing numerous basic motions, as he was a boss character originally. All the same, he's probably the best top you could work from for Eddie.
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7237/riddler.png)
Good luck. I wouldn't worry about the other WIP using White. Riddler outprioritizes Clock King, and that fellow would be better off using Clock King's newer 'Long hair and trench' look, anyway.
Truly loving the design on this Riddler. Doubt the design for Edward is gonna get any better then this, so I hope this one gets taken up. :)
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Truly loving the design on this Riddler. Doubt the design for Edward is gonna get any better then this, so I hope this one gets taken up. :)
agreed :)
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I wouldn't worry about the other WIP using White. Riddler outprioritizes Clock King, and that fellow would be better off using Clock King's newer 'Long hair and trench' look, anyway.
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as far as i know they dont share the same abilities, havent had the chance for reading all of the terror titan issues though.. i wanna base my clock kings moves on the animated series version, when he had that time field generator..
coldpyro! dont change his look just because i use the same base! you started your wip months before mine! and i dont wanna make him too similar to white, i started to rework all of his sprites (he will have a sword).. btw i like your riddlers new look, just the shoes look odd, the old look was great too! i say if both of us will change a few things, they wont be too similar!
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as far as i know they dont share the same abilities, havent had the chance for reading all of the terror titan issues though.. i wanna base my clock kings moves on the animated series version, when he had that time field generator..
coldpyro! dont change his look just because i use the same base! you started your wip months before mine! and i dont wanna make him too similar to white, i started to rework all of his sprites (he will have a sword).. btw i like your riddlers new look, just the shoes look odd, the old look was great too! i say if both of us will change a few things, they wont be too similar!
I hadn't been aware that you guys were making a TAS game until after I posted that. In the comics, Clock King had rarely been seen in his other incarnation, as opposed to popping up a ton lately in his newer one. It wasn't intended as a dig, so apologies.
All the same, even if you guys did both use straight up White, there's room for over 9,000 Shoto edits, so why not?
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okay that s good
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Sorry to say, but I'm not too fond on your new design. I much prefered what you had earlier.
Like ANC and Batz said, take some ideas from this edit and continue to use White and add in Eagle's legs. I think that it is the best way of continuing.
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7237/riddler.png)
But either way good luck!
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im likin the look ANC but going to change the face and a few other things but its an awesome look thanks for the help
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He can do Mind Control
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/123.png)
ok i did a few edits off of a new challengers im personally liking number 2 but still up in the air what do you all think number 2 i changed a few things on a new challengers
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#2 as well my mans :thumbsup:
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alright that kills it this is the final stance
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/riddlerfinal.png)
with that said going to need a coder and an assistant spriter
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Number 2 is fine, but you need some more contrast in those greens. Having them bleed together like that isn't quite Capcom styled. All the same, that's just a palette thing so it can be fixed in post.
Good luck, glad you liked the redesign.
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(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5857/riddlercolors.png)
Try using these colors instead.
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Wow, looks great Cold Pyro!
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heres a little bit of an update heres his pallet
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/riddlerspallet1.gif)
wont really show much else until there's enough for a video but i do got quite a bit sprited on him right now so hopefully will find a coder and all that soon.
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heres a little bit of an update heres his pallet
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/riddlerspallet1.gif)
wont really show much else until there's enough for a video but i do got quite a bit sprited on him right now so hopefully will find a coder and all that soon.
Nice evolution dude. You should be proud
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heres a little bit of an update heres his pallet
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/riddlerspallet1.gif)
wont really show much else until there's enough for a video but i do got quite a bit sprited on him right now so hopefully will find a coder and all that soon.
flashing colors @-)
anyway, looks great :thumbsup: can't wait to see more progress
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thanks heres a still pic
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/rpf2.png)
right now i got the
run/ jump/ kneel/ walk/and some get hits that need to be reworked to his newer look, and i got the stance and taunt that need to be animated so he is breathing
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just asking but is that Eagles legs?
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eagles legs and whites upper body
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if eagle legs = no kicking.
but i think eddie nigma wouldnt really use his legs anyways.
:)
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He might as well have cane swipes for most basics, but if he really wanted to give him say an LK, he has King, Yamazaki and Rugal as ready bases.
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methinks yamazaki would be the better choice of the three, as he has "dirty" looking kicks, and the otehr two are more martial arts. riddler doesn't strike me as a karate champ.
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methinks yamazaki would be the better choice of the three, as he has "dirty" looking kicks, and the otehr two are more martial arts. riddler doesn't strike me as a karate champ.
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hmm i have to look into yamazaki if he has dirty looking kicks im using the cane as his low and high punches for low it will be swung towards the legs medium punch will be swung from the side and high will be swung in the fashion of an uppercut
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/thedudes/riddler57575.png)
here is an in game shot of riddler against scruffys joker an batman
not really enough done for a video but ill be there soon been working on him not too much lately since college is starting up soon but doing what i can when i can.
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Any chance of these shenanigans? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnHO0LdJ4Ck# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnHO0LdJ4Ck#)
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This is lookin nice ColdPyro dam i want to see more lol @-)
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hmm no he wont act like that but i do plan to have a jim carrey intro or hyper along with other previous riddler looks as either a winning ending or intro or hyper
the classic riddler the jim carrey riddler and hopefully if he is in the next movie maybe even add something from that but that stuff prob wont be in his 1st release im more worried about just finishing all his basics and all that stuff right now I still could use some help with the breathing animations and taunt breathing animation im no good with making breathing animations and he needs them
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I was talking about "The Puzzler" and all his failed attempts at making a name.
maybe as an intro. :-??
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ehh idk for the jim carrey appearance in the wip it will be something over the top he did some crazy stuff in the movie maybe if he wins hell be dressed as batman kind of like at the end of the movie where he says he knows who batman is.. lol
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:thumbsup: Ice Man Approves
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hmm no he wont act like that
Thank goodness
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will enjoy fighting this guy
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I'm so looking forward to this character. Riddler is one of my favorites, keep up to good work and keep us informed. ^^
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Instead of going back and redoing it, why not make the standing pose the intro and have the second set of sprites to be for battle.