I agree. 2D is way better for KOF. I don't see why they didn't just continue with the style of the last game. It was great.Well tbh as magma said....its pretty much hella expensive annnnd take a whole lot of time. Kof12.....16 to 17 months per character. And they had a team of 10 artists. So split that up to how many characters between the 10 artists and then who knows how many others that helped with much more cause spriter artists arent even the programmers , then there is the bg artists and so on and so on. It gets very very expensive and when your budget isnt in the green.....forget about it. 3d is much less expensive and do not really require a lot of hands on extras. But that depends on the devs production time and budget.
Now you know why SNK is MIA from all these years. Bankrupt got them.Sure did, not sure how much in the red on finances they were but when they got bought by that chinese company they at least got a budget for this game. How much it is.....not sure. It aint probably as large as what sony doin for capcom for sf5 but hopefully the devs make good enough work with whatever the budget is.
I thought they all meant 2D from a gameplay standpoint, not a graphical standpointLol true , i seen that around at other spots but people have different takes on what they think in referencing 3d vs 2d. For some its the graphics and others its the gameplay. For me its both. SF5 is 3d graphics on a 2.5 D plane gameplay wise vs say....Dead or alive where its 3d graphics with 3d arena in which you can sidestep and move around the entire arena. Unless you can count that all the fighting takes place in most 3d fighters on a 2d plane but with the ability to move around then well yup.
its horrible.....plain and simple....sh*tty way for KOF to go out.....it would have been great if Arc system works bought the company and rebirthed the series.....Imagine an a NEW dream match game or even all new Fatal Fury game with Rock much older along with Terry? Sprites re drawn like those Guilty Gear games & Blazblue?
eh just a thought
Congratulations SNKP, you've caught up to StreetFighter 4 L-)Man what you talkin bout bro.....this is kof impact 3 man.......hold up......its kof 14? THIS? /:O
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"Back in our days, the Neo Geo had restrictiona and we only had the option of going by pixel art. But even back then, there were high-quality 3D games like "Virtua Fighter", and it was certainly something I wanted to try if we had a good PCB. 2D pixel art is still something that remains as a culture, and I know there's a lot of people that like them. I like them too. But on the other hand as a developer, there's always the unconfortable feeling that there's no tomorrow if you can't keep up with the times, the progress, and new technology. So it's a hard decision."I find that truly sad.
I rather it be a kof MI3 than a new kof base game.
And even then, it's clear that the graphics are being improved little-by-little.
No offense, but I don't think everyone is getting their priorities straight here. Sure, it'd be nice if the game looked nice, but that's not what's really important here. It's the gameplay and the characters that make KoF, and from what I've seen, all of that looks top-notch, especially this early into development. When it comes to what really matters, this could rank up with the greatest KoF's out there.Ok i get your view and most def gameplay is the top priority in any game, thats a must have from the door. Much respect man on that big time. Now that aside i know how long it takes to do high quality sprites, its not simple.....especially for a small team. Yes. Even for a large team its a train wreck. But again there is another viewpoint missing and thats this aint a ps2 or a 3. This is a ps4 and todays gamers like many look at graphics very seriously. Remember its not just us nostalgia people who play these games, they make a lot more money on casuals and new purchasers more than niche fan bases who wax and wain cause if they only hoped it just would appeal tl the older gen gamers they wont make nearly as much as they truly want to. Graphics as well can make and break a game just like gameplay does. I can tell you for dang sure no one i know in my large gaming circlemis gonna copp a ps4 and then throw down 60 plus dollars for a outdated in visual game. And they been playin since the begining of snk coming into the market. As gen and tech gets better.... the games MUST equate up as well.
That said, I understand where you're all coming from here to some extent. After all, KoF XIII was still 2D and it looked amazing, so why not just stick to 2D? The problem is that, since they'd likely have to make the game for the PS4 instead of the PS3, people would be expecting new and even better graphics instead of just reusing the same old ones from the PS3, and the sprites for KoF XII/XIII already took 5 years and a ton of moolah to finish. Part of this was because they made the 3D models first and then drew over them, which made for amazing animation, but at the cost of taking so long that they had to whip out KoF XII in an unfinished state just to have something to show, and then it still took them a year or two to finish everything up for KoF XIII. They also had to reduce the roster size and the movesets for many characters because of just how long it took to make everything. When it comes to sheer practicality, 2D -- or at least the rotoscoping method they used -- probably wasn't the best route to go.
Now, by just making 3D models as opposed to spriting over them, they have more time to add in more moves and, more importantly, add in more characters. It may not look as nice, but it's more cost-efficient and less time-consuming than using rotoscoping. In fact, the game's been in development since Spring 2014, and SNK has stated that they're already 70% through development, so it seems that going 3D was, from a practical standpoint, the best choice. And again, looking at gameplay videos and reading detailed analyses from those who have actually played the current build, the gameplay itself is more than up to snuff. At the least, you might want reserve judgement until you play the game, because by all counts, it looks like it'll be a heck of a time. Just don't expect it to be the best-looking game you'll ever play.
Ok i get your view and most def gameplay is the top priority in any game, thats a must have from the door. Much respect man on that big time. Now that aside i know how long it takes to do high quality sprites, its not simple.....especially for a small team. Yes. Even for a large team its a train wreck. But again there is another viewpoint missing and thats this aint a ps2 or a 3. This is a ps4 and todays gamers like many look at graphics very seriously. Remember its not just us nostalgia people who play these games, they make a lot more money on casuals and new purchasers more than niche fan bases who wax and wain cause if they only hoped it just would appeal tl the older gen gamers they wont make nearly as much as they truly want to. Graphics as well can make and break a game just like gameplay does. I can tell you for dang sure no one i know in my large gaming circlemis gonna copp a ps4 and then throw down 60 plus dollars for a outdated in visual game. And they been playin since the begining of snk coming into the market. As gen and tech gets better.... the games MUST equate up as well.
Sorry i am not droppin 400 plus for a console and still drop another 60 for a lesser game that is no where near where by todays standards in games.....its dang near 2 gens back .....now tho I would drop the cash if its the gen console worthy. If they stuck to strictly 2d sprites i would be fine with that ...long as its ramped up to equal out what i am paying for all around. See... they are going into 3d realm gfx which is awesome but those gfx are hardly up to Usf4. if this was free , i wouldnt give too much to hardly a snare at the gfx being as they are....but its not free....they want my money...so i want better quality other than whats shown cause as stands i will play it but i aint gonna buy it cause its not beckoning me to purchase a ps4 to play it. Thats how business is when your tryin to be exclusive to one console.
If people are fine with their gfx and pretty much just happy to get a new kof game, then cool, no problem and enjoy....but no one should fret at others out here who even tho are just as big of fans, desire more for their hard earned cash. Earn my money, dont give me whatever craziness this is right nlw as looks ( which is what i am only going by cause there may not be a serious change in gfx at this point which we all can just hope they touch this up plenty more and not just gfx wise but gameplay too.
Hell i wouldnt mind at all if they took more time to focus on the game and make it better. They should. It would be ( I pray ) much more worth it than as is. I ammgiving it time and the clock is tickin. I still say and agree with sky79 and a few others on many points and totally too . I personally think 3d cell shaded would have been perfect and its far less time than spriting., 3d models could be cleaner and more pop worthy, Andy looks like a chick ( big O made me laugh cause its true lol) . Ok thats all sorry for the notebook bro. #brofists
Sorry I can't stand that Raul Julia look from Robert.I love Robert and always use him the most in kof 13 on down but this Roberts look.....I agree bruh. Raul Julia or Don Quan. Lol If this his look...which it is....I hope they give him a classic alt.
Don Quan.
I like this scene ^^(PM)^
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Kyo/Benimaru/???(maybe iori?)
Terry/Andy/King of Dinosaurs(if him is really tizoc.)
Chang/Choi/Maybe Jhun
Tung/Chin/???
Athena/Kensou/Bao or Momoko
Chris/Shermie/Yashiro
Lin(or Eiji, but i prefer Lin)
K'999(i hate that Nameless character, but i don't know if them can use him because of rights)
Rugal Bernstein
Adelheid Bernstein
Foxy(i know they will put she with angel)
Vanessa/Ramon/Seth
the one who created that fake list was a idiot, and why it have a brazilian ninja?, i am brazilian, don't exist ninjas here!, it is not even in our culture!
2nd:what make you think it will be joe?, in 2k3, tizoc is in terry's team, and he definitely DON'T will be on angel's team, as he has nothing to do with nests.
9th:why?
11th:but if them gonna make a brazilian character, it have to be a little realist, something in brazilian culture(please, not a female capoeira fighter, it is cliche). and a note, blanka don't make part of snk universe, and ninja is japanese, NOT brazilian
(http://cdn.mx7.com/i/57d/wyQvUb.jpg)fake, strange portraits, some are retired from others games... and this is official portraits:
So, another supposedly leaked image showing the full roster. Most of it looks legit, except for a few clashing portraits.
(http://cdn.mx7.com/i/57d/wyQvUb.jpg)I can't take it serious. That background is the KoF XIII character select.
So, another supposedly leaked image showing the full roster. Most of it looks legit, except for a few clashing portraits.
fake, strange portraits, some are retired from others games... and this is official portraits:
as you can see, it is 3d portraits and not pictures, the background of that fake image uses the same as kof xiii as you can see here:
and also on the false image, has some image editing programs open.
nakoruru comes from samurai shodown, samurai shodown is on the same world as the king of fighters them just occurs in differents times.
and nests or not, angel is a evil character, if king of dinosaurs are tizoc he has also nothing to do with a secret agent, as he is a Wrestler, and ramon and tizoc are good characters
SS is not on the same canon as KoF.
There's really nothing to say whether it is or isn't either way. While it's true that SS never gets referenced in KoF, there's nothing saying that it couldn't have taken place in the KoF timeline, being so far back in the past and all. Besides, if Last Blade can be part of the KoF canon, (and it is, thanks to Eiji being Zantetsu's decendant and all,) why not SS?http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Nakoruru
And speaking of which, KoF might have it's own decendant from SS too. It took a while, but in SS Sen, the last game in the series, they added in Kim Hae-ryeong, who looks like Kim, shares a name with Kim, and even has some of Kim's moves. If that isn't a link to KoF, I don't know what is.
Liking what I'm seeing there 8) though where Sylvie came from, is she newcomer? She looks quite interesting.
Was wandering if they gonna add anyone from AOF3, that game was good and with real smooth animation, but stragely no Sinclair or Rody, or anyone else made to KOF yet...
Heck, I was gonna say that.
Liking what I'm seeing there 8) though where Sylvie came from, is she newcomer? She looks quite interesting.
Part of that is because, well, let's face it; aside from Kasumi or maybe Sinclair, none of the new characters werea actually good. They weren't bad persay, but they just weren't very interesting, which is a shame, because AoF3 was a good game. At least we got Kasumi out of it.
...If you were going to say that, then why did you say SS takes place in a different canon in the first place?
vice is amazing :thumbsup:
So... blonde clown, yet no sign of Chizuru?
Sylvie
A remaining survivor from the Nests cartel who can control electromagnetic power at will.
NESTS treated Sylvie as completely useless since she couldn't bring out her potential back when the cartel was around, but she later woke up to her powers and started making use of it in the underground fighting scene after the organization had demolished.
From there, she was scouted by the tournament organizer of the KOF tournament.
honestly... I do.
That some kind of a problem?
SS does take place in a different canon. That's not to say a different Nakoruru can't exist in the KoF universe. KoF canon just takes the other games events into consideration instead of placing them in the same canon (like with the Fatal Fury canon, where AoF takes place 30 years before and Geese is dead for good).
Japan Team: Shingo
AOF Team: Takuma
FF Team: Mary
South America Team: Brazilian MMA fighter
Official Invitation Team: Shapeshifter fighter (Ash, Yashiro and Krizalid)
Another World Team: Lee (Last Blade)
K' Team: Whip
Ikari Team: Heidern
Yagami Team: Eiji
Mexico Team: Vanessa
Kim Team: Jhun
Southtown Team: Yamazaki
Psycho Soldier Team: Bao
Women Fighters Team: Kasumi
Villain Team: Raiden
China Team: Jin Chonrei
You do realize that KoF Wing is a fan game, right? as for...
Well, it's about time!
You do realize that KoF Wing is a fan game, right?
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Team ROTD anyone? :)
I'm checking out the demo right now to see whats up
EDIT:
The demo is pretty damn cool. definitely better combos than SFV IMO.....that's just me although I like both games gameplay. This KOF game isn't as stiff. its faster. easy to chain combos. I'm just annoyed I cant use my Boi Terry in the demo :( lol
You only can use
Kyo
Iori
King of dinosaurs
Nelson (the boxer) whos actually cool
Shun'EI
Mai
&
Sylvie paula paula
Backgrounds are bright and vibrant. Design wise of course it doesn't stand up next to DOA 5 or SFV But the speed & combos rivals those latest fighting games. I think folks will have fun because of that alone. But sheeeesh I so wish the char designs were way more up to date up scale better.
I'm still going to get this game. its worth it I can tell
Reading that I'm glad that I didn't jumped on either "SF V" hype train or "KOF XIV" bashing train. Proves to be right bet on KOF, even with not ultra graphics it's more appealing to me and gameplay seems to be more interesting.
To be honest - while I like Nelson I'd liked to see Rick Strowd more, he's one of my favorite characters. Maybe Nelson would be mugenized one day and I'll see personally who's better at face punching :)
Hmmmm overall how would you rate this against sfv per say?
KOF14 is getting a new graphic update with the 1.10 version that will be available at PSX this weekend
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Amazing!!! i hope snk plans making more dlcs or then a sequel soon