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O No Rambo Spam :/
« on: May 02, 2013, 09:17:39 PM »
Im sure this is just a minor bug that can be fixed i noticed the A.I. lovessss to spam this move like constantly and i don't know how to keep him from spamming it can you help?



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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 10:37:02 PM »
I think i've explained AI to you already. Any "spamming" is caused by too high a random value and bad triggering. If you like, (again) show the code! and we can point out issues. Please, any time you post one of these, show the code. More than the screenshot. Screenshot tells me that's state 1800, not overly useful.

cmd changestate would show me how the AI works which is something solvable.

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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2013, 11:05:19 PM »
Is this what you needed to see?

Code: [Select]
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;Chuva de Granada
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[State -1, Chuva de Granada]
type = ChangeState
value = 1800
triggerall = command = "ChuvadeGranada"
triggerall = power >= 1000
trigger1 = Statetype = A
;trigger1 = P2MoveType != H
trigger1 = ctrl
trigger2 = StateType = A
trigger2 = HitdefAttr = A, NA

Code: [Select]
[State -2, Chuva de Granada]
type = ChangeState
value = 1800
triggerall = RoundState = 2
triggerall = Var(59) != 0
triggerall = Random = [99,999]
triggerall = MoveType != H
triggerall = P2MoveType != H
triggerall = power >= 1000
trigger1 = Statetype = A
trigger1 = ctrl
trigger2 = StateType = A
trigger2 = HitdefAttr = A, NA
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2013, 02:00:49 AM »
Spam isn't QUITE accurate, it takes 1000 power to do so i imagine it maxes out at 3.

For AI triggers, those suck badly. Quick fix is do this

triggerall = Random = [99,999]
becomes
triggerall = Random < 50

Less spam. Still crap triggers.


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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 11:05:30 AM »
Iight i imputed that code in and it made my mugen crash and the error message reads as follows:

Error message: can't access data
error in rambo.cns
error loading chars/rambo/rambo.def
error loading p2

library error message: need at least one [victoryBG] type bg
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 12:42:28 AM »
Uh, you've done something else then. My code change would NOT cause that, it's impossible.

You've altered the .def file in some way, possibly activating a non-existent ending sequence. Make sure those lines are either blank or commented out in the .def.

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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2013, 11:19:50 AM »
Naw i swear i ain't touch the .def i only edited what you told me to edit that's all and that error message popped up :/ here i'll even show you the .def file

Code: [Select]
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;================================================================================================
;+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++/-----------------------\++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
;-----------------------------------|      -=+Rambo+=-      |------------------------------------
;===================================|  A Maquina de Matar!  |====================================
;+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\-----------------------/++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
;---------------------------------------------------By: CaVaLeIrO_NeGrO\_InCaS_------------------
;================================================================================================
;++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[Info]
name = "John J. Rambo By CaVaLeIrO_NeGrO" ;Nome completo do personagem
displayname = "Rambo"                     ;Nome mostrado na tela
versiondate = 03,02,2004                  ;Data da versão do personagem
mugenversion = 04,14,2001                 ;Data da versão do MUGEN que funciona
author = "CaVaLeIrO_NeGrO"                ;Nome do autor do personagem
pal.defaults = 1;,2,3,4,5,6                ;Padrão da ordem das paletas por preferência

[Files]
cmd       = Rambo.cmd           ;Comandos
cns       = Rambo.cns           ;Constantes
st        = States/Basico.st    ;States de Movimentos Básicos
st1       = States/Normal.st    ;States de Golpes Normais
st2       = States/Especial.st  ;States de Golpes Especiais
st3       = States/Super.st     ;States de Golpes Supers
st4       = States/IA.st        ;States da Inteligência Artificial
stcommon  = common1.cns         ;States Comuns
sprite    = Rambo.sff           ;Sprites
anim      = Rambo.air           ;Animações
sound     = Rambo.snd           ;Sons
pal1      = Paletas/Rambo1.act  ;Paleta 1 - Azul Claro & Verde
;pal2      = Paletas/Rambo4.act  ;Paleta 2 - Bege & Preto
;pal3      = Paletas/Rambo3.act  ;Paleta 3 - Preto & Preto
;pal4      = Paletas/Rambo6.act  ;Paleta 4 - Vermelho & Preto
;pal5      = Paletas/Rambo5.act  ;Paleta 5 - Verde & Verde
;pal6      = Paletas/Rambo2.act  ;Paleta 6 - Branco & Preto
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 09:37:19 PM »
That OUGHT to have broken ages ago then. Normally that would mean stage/ending. So... possibly there is a piece of stupid in the CNS somewhere. But my code can't have done that because it's just a change of random trigger. Change it back, bet you the error is maintained. Something else has to have been altered.

All you can do is search rambo.cns for type = BG and see if anything comes up. Type = BG is invalid so i would be interested if it's there.

Feel free in this case to go to www.pastebin.com and paste the contents of the cns file there. Can have a full read through that way. Changes in cmd do not result in changes to cns so that character has issues anyway.

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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 11:15:55 AM »
Iight i signed up for pastebin here is my link so you can see the .cns

http://pastebin.com/4j6QgfJt
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 11:13:23 PM »
That's not rambo.cns is it. The error and i have both referred to rambo.cns. That one is probably AI.cns or something, that's not the file being complained about. The reason i say this is normally the main .cns is named after the character, a file that's just state -2 stuff will not be named after the character.

Show us rambo.cns.

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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2013, 11:28:34 PM »
That's not rambo.cns is it. The error and i have both referred to rambo.cns. That one is probably AI.cns or something, that's not the file being complained about. The reason i say this is normally the main .cns is named after the character, a file that's just state -2 stuff will not be named after the character.

Show us rambo.cns.

Naw bruh the creator who made Rambo named both the Rambo.cns and the IA.cns files the same thing (idk why i think it's poorly done if you ask me) but if you want i can give you the download link to the Rambo char so that you can see that im not lying :/

Here he is

http://www.4shared.com/file/aCa9p23w/Rambo_10.html?
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2013, 12:28:34 AM »
You can't name them the same thing. You can't have 2 files with the same name, windows doesn't let you. You haven't read the file name or something. There is no way there are 2 rambo.cns files in that folder. There will be one, and i seriously doubt it's only got state -2 stuff in it. When you do a state -2 or -3 file it's normally named something special.

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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2013, 12:33:32 AM »
no not that I mean inside the files he named them both AI if u get what im sayin once u download him and u will see what I mean
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2013, 12:51:10 AM »
Sorry, not registering an account to download a character from 4shared.

cns       = Rambo.cns           ;Constantes

See that? That's rambo.cns. It is in the folder or it would never have loaded at all. You have shown me IA.st. IA.st is useless. Rambo.cns please, that's what the error says.

Find the file in the folder. Open it with notepad. Don't use FF anything for this. If it still looks like what you have here, i can't tell you any more, re-download the character, you have something f**ked somewhere.

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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2013, 01:48:47 AM »
Iight i used notepad this time i wish this post didn't have a maximum length of 20000 characters tho :/ or else i would post it here but ima use pastebin again

http://pastebin.com/uieyPaGM

Btw what download site do you use? do you use mediafire? cause i can upload him to that site so you can download him and see what im talking about
« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 01:55:08 AM by {C.R.O.M.} Skorpophobia »
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2013, 01:56:18 AM »
I think your character is busted now. That file starts with inteligencia artificial which really does make me think it's IA.st, except you say it's not. If that's really the contents of rambo.cns i think he's busted something somewhere, or you've got something corrupted.

None of the errors you've received make sense, nor does what you're getting out of the files.

Re-download him, and make the random change i suggested.

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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2013, 02:03:12 AM »
That's the thing i redownloaded him a good 4 times already and made the change to try and fix the error but to no avail so that's why i said if you want i can just upload him for you to download and see what the problem is because the creator that made rambo merged the contents of the IA.st WITH the Rambo.cns and i think that's why he is spamming and or causing the error everytime i input your fix into his .cns file
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2013, 02:07:39 AM »
Ok wait something ain't quite right...i just opened his .cns file with FF classic and his .cns showed up WITHOUT the AI thing at the top but when i loaded him in FF 3 it loaded up with BOTH IA.st and Rambo.cns :/ hmm must of been an error in FF 3 but this should be the .cns am i correct?

Code: [Select]
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;================================================================================================
;+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++/-----------------------\++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
;-----------------------------------|      -=+Rambo+=-      |------------------------------------
;===================================|       Constantes      |====================================
;+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\-----------------------/++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
;---------------------------------------------------By: CaVaLeIrO_NeGrO\_InCaS_------------------
;================================================================================================
;++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Data]
life = 1000
power = 3000
attack = 100
defence = 100
fall.defence_up = 50
liedown.time = 50
airjuggle = 15
sparkno = 2
guard.sparkno = 40
KO.echo = 0
volume = 555
IntPersistIndex = 60
FloatPersistIndex = 40

[Size]
xscale = 1
yscale = 1
ground.back = 20
ground.front = 20
air.back = 18
air.front = 22
height = 60
attack.dist = 160
proj.dist = 90
proj.doscale = 0
head.pos = 1, -83
mid.pos = 1, -53
shadowoffset = 0
draw.offset = 0,0

[Velocity]
walk.fwd = 3.6
walk.back = -2.7
run.fwd = 6
run.back = -8,-3
jump.neu = 0,-9.0
jump.back = -3.7
jump.fwd = 3.2
runjump.fwd = 4.4
runjump.back = -4.4
airjump.neu = 0, -8.9
airjump.fwd = 2.5
airjump.back = -2.55

[Movement]
airjump.num = 0
airjump.height = 35
yaccel = .41
stand.friction = .85
crouch.friction = .82
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2013, 02:16:56 AM »
I uploaded Rambo to mediafire if that is a better site for you to download him from

http://www.mediafire.com/?g3c6tcqge2662v6
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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2013, 01:19:29 AM »
Yes, his constants have been overwritten. I don't know how that has been managed. Nor do i know exactly where you got them from because what i downloaded did NOT have that information in it. Put what you posted inside rambo.cns and delete the contents of it.

IA.st (and it is .st) is his state -2. It's for his RUBBISH AI. You would honestly be better off coding the AI yourself.

Triggerall = Random <= 1000
That is the same as trigger1 = 1, or not even having the trigger there. That's how terrible this AI has been made.

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Re: O No Rambo Spam :/
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2013, 02:30:51 AM »
Wow that's wild..lol alwell guess ima just have to deal with this char and if i get tired of the spamming i'll just delete him till he gets a update  :-?? thanks again Cyanide  ::salute:: 8)
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