kong's Juggernaut

[Arias]

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Is this suppose to be funny becuase i foun this hilarious

[Arias]

nothing epic can be derived from this after all

[DEMONKAI]

wow^^

was that an unfinished beta of Kongs juggernaut? im sure thats not complete

a lot of errors and the attack hit Frames dont look on at all. the Female character seemed invincible and couldnt get hit at all
it seemed



Anyway the funniest thing about the whole video was when that Troll singing dude came on. wtf was that?

[Arias]

the Female character seemed invincible and couldnt get hit at all
it seemed

is just that I have godlike reflexes wich allow me to troll any char easily
                                              


but seriously, is just that he's too predictable, his size and cheap AI just make him vulnerable to counters, plus in the last "round" I did choose the eclipse mode(boss mode) of Kohaku and abused of her counter wich gives her some invincible frames, so...isn't too hard to performs perfects in some kong chars like this, even in medium AI(not counting hard because kong made them "invincible" in that level)

was that an unfinished beta of Kongs juggernaut? im sure thats not complete

unfinished?.....they're just bad

[Jelux Da Casual]

Ok then, fight without counters. Not saying you can't do it, but it'd be more interesting than doing the same move over and over again to win right?

[Arias]

Ok then, fight without counters. Not saying you can't do it, but it'd be more interesting than doing the same move over and over again to win right?

..... maybe....
I won't fight him again tho...

[Acey]

The thing about this video is that Juggernaut specifically has code to counter-act helper clones falling into statedef 0. He has an all encompasing "destroyself" that immediatly removes clones should they ever be generated, so I'm really wondering what's wrong with the girl character that it forces projectile helpers with it's reversal. I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with custom hitstates. I'm thinking taking a look at her code would be quiet interesting.

[DEMONKAI]

The thing about this video is that Juggernaut specifically has code to counter-act helper clones falling into statedef 0. He has an all encompasing "destroyself" that immediatly removes clones should they ever be generated, so I'm really wondering what's wrong with the girl character that it forces projectile helpers with it's reversal. I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with custom hitstates. I'm thinking taking a look at her code would be quiet interesting.

good F*ckin catch Acey I knew somethin was odd about that female char. and ive always wondered if authors or folks who may edit stuff code in stuff to make other chars react a certain way. im familiar with Kong so seein that video had me stuck on huh??

anyway im curious to know what you find also

[Arias]

I'm thinking taking a look at her code would be quiet interesting.

since I've been busy with stuff lately, I haven't checked my chars for bugs(normally I do it to find errors in the chars I use), Kohaku normally can counter helpers without making clones, I've just tested her and that just happens with this Juggernaut
btw
she's Kohaku_AA by 9

[Acey]

since I've been busy with stuff lately, I haven't checked my chars for bugs(normally I do it to find errors in the chars I use), Kohaku normally can counter helpers without making clones, I've just tested her and that just happens with this Juggernaut
btw
she's Kohaku_AA by 9

Thanks, I'll go find her 'cause I'm interested.

[O Ilusionista]

He has an all encompasing "destroyself" that immediatly removes clones should they ever be generated, so I'm really wondering what's wrong with the girl character that it forces projectile helpers with it's reversal.

Its a known mugen bug:

Helpers which have blue clsn, even if you use NotHitBy, STILL be affected by ReversalDef. So when your helper is attacked my a ReversalDef, it will go to its root hitstate.

Pretty retarded, but it happens.

The solution:

1) if your char's helpers can't read your -1 , you need to put a Destroyself in every hitstate with a trigger like "trigger1 = IsHelper"

2) if your char's helper can read your -1, just put a destroyself there with a "trigger1= IsHelper && MoveType = H"

[Jelux Da Casual]

The problem here is that it was Kongs.....

Rly, that's your contribution to the discussion?

[Acey]

Its a known mugen bug:

Helpers which have blue clsn, even if you use NotHitBy, STILL be affected by ReversalDef. So when your helper is attacked my a ReversalDef, it will go to its root hitstate.

Pretty retarded, but it happens.

The solution:

1) if your char's helpers can't read your -1 , you need to put a Destroyself in every hitstate with a trigger like "trigger1 = IsHelper"

2) if your char's helper can read your -1, just put a destroyself there with a "trigger1= IsHelper && MoveType = H"

Wow, no matter how much I love mugen, sometimes I hate it too.

[Arias]

really...