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? about adding a special move to a charecter
« on: September 20, 2007, 02:14:32 PM »
i have the coding from another (open sorce) charecter for a special move. how do i add this to the new charecter?
i have the new sprites done and an animation made. the problem i have is that the move im adding has the same state # (i think) as an existing move that i dont want to replace. i think it is state 1000 (im at work right now and will check for sure when i get home) i just want to know for sure "where" to add the code, and what else ill need to change.

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2007, 02:55:09 PM »
add it in the cns then the cmd
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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2007, 03:28:34 PM »
im having the same problem actually.  if someone could post an example of how to accomplish inserting a move into the cns/cmd i would very much appreciate it.
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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2007, 03:33:03 PM »
im having the same problem actually.  if someone could post an example of how to accomplish inserting a move into the cns/cmd i would very much appreciate it.

check the tutorial section that mighthelp..
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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2007, 03:46:34 PM »
im having the same problem actually.  if someone could post an example of how to accomplish inserting a move into the cns/cmd i would very much appreciate it.

check the tutorial section that mighthelp..

thanks for the suggestion but theres nothing in there that really addresses the prob im having. i really just need someone to show me exactly what parts of the character who has the move (in the cns and the cmd) and exactly where i need to put them in the cns/cmd of the character i want to transfer the move to.  frankenspriting isnt an issue, ive got that down.  i just need someone to walk me through the technical mumbo jumbo of cns/cmd.
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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2007, 04:03:40 PM »
i have the coding from another (open sorce) charecter for a special move. how do i add this to the new charecter?
i have the new sprites done and an animation made. the problem i have is that the move im adding has the same state # (i think) as an existing move that i dont want to replace. i think it is state 1000 (im at work right now and will check for sure when i get home) i just want to know for sure "where" to add the code, and what else ill need to change.

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If its the same statedef number, all you have to do is change it to a statatedef number that you are not using , and change the state number in the cmd


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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 04:05:33 PM »
ok here is the code i want to add:


from cmd:

[State -1, psychocrusher]
type=changestate
value=1000
triggerall=var(59)<=0&&roundstate=2&&statetype!=A
triggerall=(var(20)<=0&&(command="cbfx"||command="cbfy"||command="cbfz"))||(var(20)>0&&(comma

nd="bfx"||command="bfy"||command="bfz"))
trigger1=ctrl
trigger2=(stateno=[200,250])&&movecontact
trigger3=movecontact&&var(20)
trigger4=(stateno=[1000,3999])&&numhelper(stateno+5)&&var(10)<=3&&var(20)
trigger4=helper(stateno+5),var(3)







from cns:


;========================<PSYCHO CRUSHER>=============================
[Statedef 1000]
type=S
physics=S
movetype=A
ctrl=0
anim=1000
velset=0,0
poweradd=60*!var(20)
juggle=ifelse((p2movetype=H&&p2statetype=A),15,5)

[State 1000, strengthvar]
type=varset
trigger1=!time&&var(59)<=0
var(10)=ifelse((command="bfz"||command="cbfz"),3,ifelse((command="bfy"||command="cbfy"),2,1))
[State 1000, strengthvarAI]
type=varset
trigger1=!time&&var(59)>=1
var(10)=ifelse(random<500,3,ifelse(random<666,2,1))

[State 1000, width]
type=width
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(4)>=0
value=20;55
ignorehitpause=1
[State 1000, push]
type=playerpush
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)>=0
value=0
ignorehitpause=1

[State 1000, nothitby]
type=nothitby
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)>=0
value=,NP
time=1
ignorehitpause=1

[State 1000, shield]
type=helper
trigger1=!numhelper(1007)
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)>=0
helpertype=normal
stateno=1007
ID=1007
name="Projectile Hitter"
postype=p1

[State 1000, vel]
type=velset
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(4)>=0
x=ifelse(var(10)=3,10,ifelse(var(10)=2,7.5,5))
y=0
[State 1000, statetype]
type=statetypeset
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(4)>=0
statetype=A
physics=N

[State 1000, fx]
type=helper
trigger1=!numhelper(0)
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)>=0
helpertype=normal
stateno=1005
ID=1005
name="Psycho Crusher"
postype=p1
size.xscale=.5
size.yscale=.5
ownpal=1

[State 1000, snd]
type=playsnd
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelem=4
value=0,40
[State 1000, dust]
type=explod
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelem=4
anim=7100
ID=7100
sprpriority=3
postype=p1
pos=0,ceil(pos y)
scale=.5,.5

[State 1000, snd]
type=playsnd
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelem=5
value=4,5
channel=0
[State 1000, snd]
type=playsnd
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelem=5
value=5,4

[State 1000, hitvar]
type=varset
trigger1=anim!=1000
trigger2=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)<0
var(14)=0
[State 1000, hitvar]
type=varadd
trigger1=anim=1000&&(movehit=1||moveguarded=1||movereversed=1)
var(14)=ifelse(moveguarded,1,3)
[State 1000, hitvar]
type=varset
trigger1=numtarget(1000)
trigger1=(target(1000),stateno=[5000,5020])&&!(target(1000),time)
var(14)=3
ignorehitpause=1

[State 1000, hit]
type=hitdef
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)>=0
trigger1=!(time%4)&&!movehit&&var(14)<3
attr=A,SA
damage=80+(10*var(10)),5
animtype=Hard
guardflag=MA
hitflag=MAF
priority=7,Hit
pausetime=12,12
sparkno=s7020+(random%8)
guard.sparkno=s7001
sparkxy=-10,-59
hitsound=s2,3
guardsound=s2,0
ground.type=Low
ground.slidetime=16
ground.hittime=16
ground.velocity=ifelse(var(10)=3,-6,ifelse(var(10)=2,-5,-4)),ifelse(var(10)=3,-6,ifelse(var(1

0)=2,-5,-4))
ground.cornerpush.veloff=0
air.type=Low
air.velocity=ifelse(var(10)=3,-6,ifelse(var(10)=2,-5,-4)),ifelse(var(10)=3,-6,ifelse(var(10)=

2,-5,-4))
damage=(160+20*var(10))*!var(20)
forcestand=1
envshake.time=16
envshake.freq=60
envshake.ampl=4
palfx.sinadd=64,64,64,4
palfx.mul=128,128,128
palfx.time=36+(4*var(10))
fall=1
fall.recover=0
ID=1000
yaccel=.5

[State 1000, flames]
type=helper
triggerall=movehit&&numtarget&&numhelper(7180)<1
trigger1=!(target,time)&&(target,movetype=H)
helpertype=normal
stateno=7180
ID=7180
name="Flames"
postype=p2
ownpal=1
facing=-1
size.ground.front=0
size.ground.back=0
ignorehitpause=1
persistent=0

[State 1000, anim]
type=changeanim
triggerall=anim=1000&&time>=20
trigger1=frontedgedist<=(const(size.air.front)+20)
trigger2=var(10)=1&&time>=37
trigger3=var(10)=2&&time>=61
trigger4=var(10)=3&&time>=85
value=1001
[State 1000, vel]
type=velmul
trigger1=anim=1001
x=.85

[State 1000, end]
type=changeanim
trigger1=anim=1001&&!animtime
value=1002
[State 1000, vel]
type=velset
trigger1=anim=1002
x=0
y=0
[State 1000, pos]
type=posset
trigger1=anim=1002
y=0
[State 1000, statetype]
type=statetypeset
trigger1=anim=1002
statetype=S
physics=S
[State 1000, snd]
type=playsnd
trigger1=anim=1002
value=0,52
persistent=0
[State 1000, dust]
type=explod
trigger1=anim=1002
anim=7102
ID=7102
sprpriority=-2
postype=p1
scale=.5,.5
ownpal=1
persistent=0
[State 1000, end]
type=changestate
trigger1=anim=1002&&!animtime
value=0
ctrl=1



the big question is it has the same state def (1000) as an existing move that i want to keep. what do i need to change and where?

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2007, 04:09:00 PM »
Fallen_Angel, sorry i was typing when you posted  :)

do i need to change it in every spot in the cns and cmd? can you show me based on my last post?

EDIT: also do i add it at the end in the cns and cmd or do i need to put it in a certian spot?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 04:11:58 PM by shin fuuma »

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2007, 04:09:28 PM »
IN the cns you can put it anywhere before Statedef - 3, and after The data stuff.

Lets say you added
[Statedef 1337]

In the CMD:

You would put something like this at the top of the CMD

[Command]
name = "WRYYYY"
command = ~D, DF, F, x+y

In statedef -1 (CMD)

You would put something like
[State -1, Hyper1]
type = ChangeState
value = 1337
triggerall = command = "WRYYYY"
trigger1 = Statetype != A && ctrl
trigger2 = (StateType != A) && (HitdefAttr = SC, NA) && (MoveContact)
trigger3 = (stateno = 200) && (MoveContact)
trigger4 = (stateno = 205) && (MoveContact)
trigger5 = (stateno = 210) && (MoveContact)
trigger6 = (stateno = 230) && (MoveContact)
trigger7 = (stateno = 235) && (MoveContact)
trigger8 = (stateno = 240) && (MoveContact)

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2007, 04:16:52 PM »
so.............

;========================<PSYCHO CRUSHER>=============================
[Statedef 1000]  i would need to change it here
type=S
physics=S
movetype=A
ctrl=0
anim=1000
velset=0,0
poweradd=60*!var(20)
juggle=ifelse((p2movetype=H&&p2statetype=A),15,5)

[State 1000, strengthvar] do i need to change it here as well?
type=varset
trigger1=!time&&var(59)<=0
var(10)=ifelse((command="bfz"||command="cbfz"),3,ifelse((command="bfy"||command="cbfy"),2,1))
[State 1000, strengthvarAI]
type=varset
trigger1=!time&&var(59)>=1
var(10)=ifelse(random<500,3,ifelse(random<666,2,1))

[State 1000, width] and here and so on?
type=width
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(4)>=0
value=20;55
ignorehitpause=1
[State 1000, push]
type=playerpush
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)>=0
value=0
ignorehitpause=1

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2007, 10:09:45 PM »
shin fuuma, you only need to change it in the statedef, the numbers in the [state #] are used only to identificate it you can put whaterever number its not going to make anything


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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2007, 11:39:25 PM »
ok i only changed the animation # and the statedef # in the CMD and CNS from 1000 to 1010.
i get this error from mugen now:

Error message: Undefined command lable: "bfz"
if not misspelling in CNS, check CMD
Error parsing [state 1000, strengthxar]
Error in states/specials.st
Error loading chars/shingouki/shingouki.def
Error loading p1

library error message: Died parsing
ifelse((command="bfz"||command="cbfz"),3,ifelse((command="cbfy"),2,1))


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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2007, 11:47:02 PM »
shin fumma that error its because you haven't made the bfz command to fix that you have to make it


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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2007, 07:52:44 AM »
what do you mean i have to make bfz?? where do i do that? i thought that was what the code i was adding did??

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2007, 09:06:33 AM »
in the cmd of the char look for all these commands and copy them

"bfz"  ,    "cbfz",  "bfy"  , "cbfy"



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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2007, 09:19:21 AM »
so in the cmd i need to copy the "psychocrusher" part and all the motions that have to do with that move........makes sence :) ill try this out when i get home :)

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2007, 05:48:09 PM »
cool that worked :) i have the move working now except for one small proble. when i do the move for the first time it leaves a copy of the stance behind (still animated) but it does not affect anything, its just there. if i do the move again it works fine and doesnt leave another copy. any idea what i may have done wrong??

thanks again to all for the help with this :)

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2007, 10:28:22 PM »
shin fumma the mistake is because maybe you havent put the statedef of the helpers

[State 1000, fx]
type=helper
trigger1=!numhelper(0)
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)>=0
helpertype=normal
stateno=1005
ID=1005
name="Psycho Crusher"
postype=p1
size.xscale=.5
size.yscale=.5
ownpal=1



[State 1000, flames]
type=helper
triggerall=movehit&&numtarget&&numhelper(7180)<1
trigger1=!(target,time)&&(target,movetype=H)
helpertype=normal
stateno=7180
ID=7180
name="Flames"
postype=p2
ownpal=1
facing=-1
size.ground.front=0
size.ground.back=0
ignorehitpause=1
persistent=0

make sure that you have thse statedefs 1005 and 7180, or try deleting the helpers, maybe you dont need them


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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2007, 09:52:39 AM »
yeah i dont need them :) this was the first "sprite edit" i did about 2 months ago and i made the "fx" part of the normal animations  ;D (i know better now :)) this will get fixed when i get home tonight :)

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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2007, 07:53:22 AM »
well i tried removing both of the things you suggested but it still does the same thing (first time you use the special move it leaves a copy of the standing animation behind and after that it works fine) here is the code as im using it now.


;========================<PSYCHO CRUSHER>=============================
[Statedef 1010]
type=S
physics=S
movetype=A
ctrl=0
anim=1010          (1010 is the main animation)
velset=0,0
poweradd=60*!var(20)
juggle=ifelse((p2movetype=H&&p2statetype=A),15,5)

[State 1000, strengthvar]
type=varset
trigger1=!time&&var(59)<=0
var(10)=ifelse((command="bfz"||command="cbfz"),3,ifelse((command="bfy"|

|command="cbfy"),2,1))
[State 1000, strengthvarAI]
type=varset
trigger1=!time&&var(59)>=1
var(10)=ifelse(random<500,3,ifelse(random<666,2,1))

[State 1000, width]
type=width
trigger1=anim=1010&&animelemtime(4)>=0
value=20;55
ignorehitpause=1
[State 1000, push]
type=playerpush
trigger1=anim=1010&&animelemtime(6)>=0
value=0
ignorehitpause=1

[State 1000, nothitby]
type=nothitby
trigger1=anim=1010&&animelemtime(6)>=0
value=,NP
time=1
ignorehitpause=1

[State 1000, shield]
type=helper
trigger1=!numhelper(1007)
trigger1=anim=1010&&animelemtime(6)>=0
helpertype=normal
stateno=1007
ID=1007
name="Projectile Hitter"
postype=p1

[State 1000, vel]
type=velset
trigger1=anim=1010&&animelemtime(4)>=0
x=ifelse(var(10)=3,10,ifelse(var(10)=2,7.5,5))
y=0
[State 1000, statetype]
type=statetypeset
trigger1=anim=1010&&animelemtime(4)>=0
statetype=A
physics=N

[State 1000, fx]
type=helper
trigger1=!numhelper(0)
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelemtime(6)>=0
helpertype=normal
stateno=1005
ID=1005
name="Psycho Crusher"
postype=p1
size.xscale=.5
size.yscale=.5
ownpal=1

[State 1000, snd]
type=playsnd
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelem=4
value=0,40
[State 1000, dust]
type=explod
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelem=4
anim=7100
ID=7100
sprpriority=3
postype=p1
pos=0,ceil(pos y)
scale=.5,.5

[State 1000, snd]
type=playsnd
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelem=5
value=4,5
channel=0
[State 1000, snd]
type=playsnd
trigger1=anim=1000&&animelem=5
value=5,4

[State 1000, hitvar]
type=varset
trigger1=anim!=1010
trigger2=anim=1010&&animelemtime(6)<0
var(14)=0
[State 1000, hitvar]
type=varadd
trigger1=anim=1010&&(movehit=1||moveguarded=1||movereversed=1)
var(14)=ifelse(moveguarded,1,3)
[State 1000, hitvar]
type=varset
trigger1=numtarget(1010)
trigger1=(target(1010),stateno=[5000,5020])&&!(target(1010),time)
var(14)=3
ignorehitpause=1

[State 1000, hit]
type=hitdef
trigger1=anim=1010&&animelemtime(6)>=0
trigger1=!(time%4)&&!movehit&&var(14)<3
attr=A,SA
damage=80+(10*var(10)),5
animtype=Hard
guardflag=MA
hitflag=MAF
priority=7,Hit
pausetime=12,12
sparkno=s7020+(random%8)
guard.sparkno=s7001
sparkxy=-10,-59
hitsound=s2,3
guardsound=s2,0
ground.type=Low
ground.slidetime=16
ground.hittime=16
ground.velocity=ifelse(var(10)=3,-6,ifelse(var(10)=2,-5,-4)),ifelse(var

(10)=3,-6,ifelse(var(10)=2,-5,-4))
ground.cornerpush.veloff=0
air.type=Low
air.velocity=ifelse(var(10)=3,-6,ifelse(var(10)=2,-5,-4)),ifelse(var(10

)=3,-6,ifelse(var(10)=2,-5,-4))
damage=(160+20*var(10))*!var(20)
forcestand=1
envshake.time=16
envshake.freq=60
envshake.ampl=4
palfx.sinadd=64,64,64,4
palfx.mul=128,128,128
palfx.time=36+(4*var(10))
fall=1
fall.recover=0
ID=1010
yaccel=.5

[State 1000, flames]
type=helper
triggerall=movehit&&numtarget&&numhelper(7180)<1
trigger1=!(target,time)&&(target,movetype=H)
helpertype=normal
stateno=7180
ID=7180
name="Flames"
postype=p2
ownpal=1
facing=-1
size.ground.front=0
size.ground.back=0
ignorehitpause=1
persistent=0

[State 1000, anim]
type=changeanim
triggerall=anim=1010&&time>=20
trigger1=frontedgedist<=(const(size.air.front)+20)
trigger2=var(10)=1&&time>=37
trigger3=var(10)=2&&time>=61
trigger4=var(10)=3&&time>=85
value=1011
[State 1000, vel]
type=velmul
trigger1=anim=1011
x=.85

[State 1000, end]
type=changeanim
trigger1=anim=1011&&!animtime
value=1012
[State 1000, vel]
type=velset
trigger1=anim=1012      (1012 is the ending animation for when he comes out of the crusher)
x=0
y=0
[State 1000, pos]
type=posset
trigger1=anim=1012
y=0
[State 1000, statetype]
type=statetypeset
trigger1=anim=1012
statetype=S
physics=S
[State 1000, snd]
type=playsnd
trigger1=anim=1012
value=0,52
persistent=0
[State 1000, dust]
type=explod
trigger1=anim=1012
anim=7102
ID=7102
sprpriority=-2
postype=p1
scale=.5,.5
ownpal=1
persistent=0
[State 1000, end]
type=changestate
trigger1=anim=1012&&!animtime
value=0
ctrl=1

i left in the 2 things you told me to take out because they didnt seem to affect anything and i wanted you to see the whole code :)  any other ideas what it could be???

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2007, 09:36:09 AM »
shin fuuma, maybe you need to make the statedef for the helpers

[State 1000, shield]
type=helper
trigger1=!numhelper(1007)
trigger1=anim=1010&&animelemtime(6)>=0
helpertype=normal
stateno=1007; you have to make the statedef 1007
ID=1007
name="Projectile Hitter"
postype=p1

maybe the  error is because you dont have the anim of the helper


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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2007, 10:00:18 AM »
do you mean i need to add more code or the actual animations?

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2007, 10:06:06 AM »
do you mean i need to add more code or the actual animations?
I think that you need to add both

in the helper it says stateno = ###  ; thats the statedef that you need to make



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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2007, 10:18:32 AM »
ohh, now i know what you mean :)
in the cmd there is a tab for "helpers" i put in the "phychocrusher" helper but didnt think to see if i needed anything else. i know i saw a "projectile hitter" and "projectile eater" and a few others i dont think i need but ill try this when i get home tonight. for the animation do i use "blank" sprites with clns boxes? reason i ask is a saw some in there and didnt know what they were for.

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Re: ? about adding a special move to a charecter
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2007, 09:18:06 AM »
i added the "projectile hitter" and a blank animation for it and it now works PERFECT!!!!

thanks for all the help Fallen_Angel!!! your the best  ^:)^ ^:)^ ^:)^

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