Post by: Acey on October 11, 2011, 06:46:20 PM
1) Two of Emma Frost's hypers have Normal hitdef properties. (opps, missed that).
2) Rogue is doing moves from non-EoH characters, crazy Rogue!
3) Cable is doing 3 hyper start sounds on one hyper, cause he's that strong.
Edit: Fixed and uploaded again.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on October 11, 2011, 07:42:43 PM
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on October 11, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
What about the DC abilities? *troll face*
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on October 11, 2011, 08:53:37 PM
Post by: Acey on October 11, 2011, 09:48:01 PM
You managed to fix the "Bishop isn't affected by Typhoon" glitch?
That's not a bug actaully, a variety of attacks act differently on him, for example Bishop absorbes Gambit's cards so they don't explod on him.
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 11:40:36 AM
Post by: prnzokoshiro on October 12, 2011, 12:47:44 PM
Post by: ExeLord on October 12, 2011, 12:50:12 PM
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on October 12, 2011, 01:02:40 PM
FEEDBACK IS IN HERE
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Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 01:17:34 PM
@ Prawnz-ok-oshiro, the stout file should stop at initializing graphics so that's good, sounds like the error is probably some kind of font related, mind to post your the mugen.log for us?
Post by: prnzokoshiro on October 12, 2011, 01:21:09 PM
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X.S.C. ver 1.00 (2011.01.18) status log
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Parsing command line...
Command line: F:\X-Men Second Coming\X-Men Second Coming.exe
Parse command line OK
Initializing...
Allocating game variables
Reading configuration file...OK
Initializing timer...performance timer enabled...frequency 2078154...OK
Initializing keyboard...configuring...OK
Initializing input engine...OK
Initializing sound...Using SDL audio driver: dsound
Requesting mixer parameters (44100, 16, 2, 2048)...
Opened mixer with parameters (44100, 16, 2, 2048)...
OK
Initializing BGM...BGMThreadInit returned 0
OK
Initializing graphics...gameCoord 640x480...render mode 0_0...trying 640x480x16 mode 0x0...success...OK
Setting callbacks...OK
Initializing font...OK
Initializing game variables...OK
Loading system fonts...OK
Loading options...
Initializing pads...OK
Reinitializing input engine...OK
Remapping keys...OK
Reinitializing input engine...OK
Options loaded OK
Loading system...
Load system file system.def...OK
Load system spr...OK
Load system snd...OK
Load system fonts...OK
Load system anim...OK
Load [Title Info]...OK
Load [Option Info]...OK
Load [Select Info]...OK
Load [VS Screen]...OK
Load [Victory Screen]...Couldn't load
Load [Demo Mode]...OK
Load [Continue Screen]...OK
Load [Game Over Screen]...OK
Load [Win Screen]...OK
Load [Survival Results Screen]...OK
Load [Default Ending]...OK
Load [End Credits]...OK
Load TitleBG...VersusBG...VictoryBG...Error loading VictoryBG
SelectBG...OptionBG...OK
Loading fight data
Opening fight data file data/ProjX/fight.def...OK
Reading [Files]...OK
Loading fonts...
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on October 12, 2011, 01:24:13 PM
Post by: prnzokoshiro on October 12, 2011, 01:31:53 PM
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 12, 2011, 01:32:50 PM
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 01:35:55 PM
Loading fight dataWhat is your OS?
Opening fight data file data/ProjX/fight.def...OK
Reading [Files]...OK
Loading fonts...
Could you humor me and drop it on the drive that has your operating system (drive C probably) and give that a go?
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 01:40:35 PM
Post by: prnzokoshiro on October 12, 2011, 01:44:46 PM
What is your OS?
Could you humor me and drop it on the drive that has your operating system (drive C probably) and give that a go?
It's Win7.. ok, that works. I'll just run it from C. Thanks Aye-ceh lol
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 01:46:42 PM
Post by: prnzokoshiro on October 12, 2011, 01:52:46 PM
edit: oh, I'm sorry if this is off-topic and has to be moved?
Post by: ExeLord on October 12, 2011, 01:55:51 PM
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Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 02:28:23 PM
oh, btw, on my other comp there's only 2 GB RAM, and I usually have to share this one at certain times of day so I switch off... if I run Mugen 1.0 at anything larger than 640 x 480 in a window, it's too slow to play... but if I run it in full-screen, sometimes when I exit it crashes the desktop. In winmugen I can run it in large windows without any speed problems or other issues, so is there anything I can do with 1.0 so I don't have to play it in a little window?
edit: oh, I'm sorry if this is off-topic and has to be moved?
For other types of performance issues read the game manual. :thumbsup:
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 02:29:42 PM
OS? Win XP x64. Log with shortcut:(click to show/hide)
You're having the exact same issue as Pyron-Ok-Oshiro, however the shortcut is set up it can't find your windows folder.
Post by: ExeLord on October 12, 2011, 02:35:26 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on October 12, 2011, 03:07:57 PM
Plus the fact that he's invincible while the portal is open is ridiculous cause the portal doesn't stay closed long enough, sometimes by the time you realize their aren't sentinels flying all over the screen it's too late.
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Not so much a bug as is a complaint. Bastion phase 2 is bullcarp. He can get locked into a routine so that when you hit him during a move, he'll repeat the move, sometimes before he even finishes it.
Plus the fact that he's invincible while the portal is open is ridiculous cause the portal doesn't stay closed long enough, sometimes by the time you realize their aren't sentinels flying all over the screen it's too late.
Just like Symbiote Onslaught, you gotta learn "the trick" to Bastion 2nd form.
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 03:39:28 PM
Okay guys, I really like this game, so I took some time to gather what feedback I could :
FEEDBACK IS IN HERE(click to show/hide)
I am offended that you're trolling us with your hate... just kidding
* Prof X AI changed so doesn't do combos that players can't
* Beast Feral Charge hyper hit boxe size increased
* Fixed Deadpool hyper possitioning
* Iceman Crouch HP sound
* Iceman D,B,K sounds
* Omega Red, opponent fall on Omega Destroyer
* Colossus projectile hit sound
* Storm lightning storm hyer paus adjusted
* Fixed air pos Y on lightning storm
* The unmatched hitsounds, I guess I'll have to findthose unless someone puts together a list to help me out.
Ok, this will be uploaded in the next 15 minutes.
Post by: ceefus on October 12, 2011, 03:46:08 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on October 12, 2011, 03:55:02 PM
Does everybody know u can select spiderman by pressing down when highlighting deadpool :-??
Was a secret...
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
Was a secret...
Not a very good one that at. :-?? Thanks ceefus for the spoiler, sheesh. ;)
Post by: ceefus on October 12, 2011, 04:21:49 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on October 12, 2011, 10:39:14 PM
Not so much a bug as is a complaint. Bastion phase 2 is bullcarp. He can get locked into a routine so that when you hit him during a move, he'll repeat the move, sometimes before he even finishes it.
Plus the fact that he's invincible while the portal is open is ridiculous cause the portal doesn't stay closed long enough, sometimes by the time you realize their aren't sentinels flying all over the screen it's too late.
Ok, so, he can be hit outside of the portal, but as long as it's up, he regens and and sentinels keep "coming out of it" right?
Also, some supers do no damage to him at all, for instance Cyclops's Optic Rage.
Post by: Acey on October 12, 2011, 11:57:10 PM
Ok, so, he can be hit outside of the portal, but as long as it's up, he regens and and sentinels keep "coming out of it" right?
Also, some supers do no damage to him at all, for instance Cyclops's Optic Rage.
Ok, I'll tel you a little... the portal can be broken... and you're on to something with supers not working.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on October 13, 2011, 12:01:06 AM
Ok, I'll tel you a little... the portal can be broken... and you're on to something with supers not working.
Oh, I'm familiar with breaking the portal, just when I do, it never stays down long enough to do any real damage. He's also invincible while he's inside it, isn't he?
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on October 13, 2011, 01:10:18 AM
I am offended that you're trolling us with your hate... just kidding
* Prof X AI changed so doesn't do combos that players can't
* Beast Feral Charge hyper hit boxe size increased
* Fixed Deadpool hyper possitioning
* Iceman Crouch HP sound
* Iceman D,B,K sounds
* Omega Red, opponent fall on Omega Destroyer
* Colossus projectile hit sound
* Storm lightning storm hyer paus adjusted
* Fixed air pos Y on lightning storm
* The unmatched hitsounds, I guess I'll have to findthose unless someone puts together a list to help me out.
Ok, this will be uploaded in the next 15 minutes.
Hahaha, yeah i kno right!! hahaha Thanks for taking the time to read my feedback, hope that it was helpful. I think I can go in and see what characters have the unmatched hitsounds, besides I go in and do this all the time with the patches I make.
Post by: ZVitor on October 13, 2011, 02:26:38 AM
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i did some test with storm + bishop problem.
storm have some thunders moves, and bishop could absorve that, but dont should absorve wind attacks, edit attributes of bishop and storm is painful, because alucard and wucash code style is different (soft way to say it is messed), and we must be careful, or it will bug if we miss some helper or set a wrong atribute to mystique counter, or iceman walls....
so easy solution, storm added to group of chars wich powers cant be absorved by bishop.
typhoon will hit bishop, but he will not absorve her thunder.
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on October 13, 2011, 02:06:54 PM
FEEDBACK IS HERE
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Thats all i will do for today but i will be back with more feedback on my end.
Post by: prnzokoshiro on October 14, 2011, 12:23:12 PM
ok, before I even report any bugs... gun moves.
In an MvC-ish environment, supers/hypers filling the screen with projectile are commonplace. And chars can also casually fire invisible (realistic) bullets that travel the screen ultra-fast and affect the whole horizontal space you may have not jumped out of, we know all this, I'm just sayin.
So that brings me to Deadpool and Birdy. Their gun specials are too quick, with too fast of a recovery. With the usual styles of playing, these are perfectly punishable and it doesn't present a problem. But dash-in, block, dash-in, block or super-jump, block, punish goes a hair quicker in actual MvC than it does here. So they can play a very mean keep-away game. Deadpool's has a very small charge to execute, but you can charge in-between things and pretty much have it ready anytime. And maybe it's just what Birdy needs if she's not gonna be updated since her QCF + K is useless (Prof X's is a much better stun attack, though it has less range than Birdy's) and her other specials are decent (landmine is good to decrease rush-in options like Beast), but still, it's not right (I know I said Birdy was weak, but I just noticed all this while playin today. Her normals are good, no complaints there). And nobody has a special that goes through projectiles in certain frames as far as I know other than Nightcrawler (something I notice in mugen chars a lot, along with supers with no NotHitBys but that doesn't seem to be a problem here). Mystique is worse but at least she has limited bullets before she has to reload. Bishop has guns and Cable has a gun as a normal, but they have appropriate start-up delay. And Cable and Namor effectively have guns, as rays. But again, start-up makes them fine. So effectively, the 2 I'm talkin about are like Dhalsim or Necro but worse. And not slow as an old man gettin his hole.
What I'm sayin is, just to consider when you do one of your future updates, can you please do one of these.. a.) decrease the damage dished out by Deadpool and Birdy's guns b.) make Deadpool's charge a little longer (possibly make Birdy's a charge?) c.) give them a tiny bit longer recovery after firing or tiny bit start-up delay, or d.) make block damage a 0 (least preferable) ?
P.S. Sorry if that sounded long-winded and pretentious or anything, I didn't mean it to be. And maybe I didn't play enough to see that they need these options, but right now that's how it seems. It's just a thought.
Post by: Acey on October 14, 2011, 12:25:44 PM
Edit: regarding the guns, nothing is going to change, the start up varies according to the particular move in question but all have the appropraite recovery times to make the moves punishable.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on October 14, 2011, 11:26:40 PM
Post by: Acey on October 14, 2011, 11:43:07 PM
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Post by: HyperVoiceActing on October 15, 2011, 12:27:58 AM
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on October 15, 2011, 01:40:48 AM
Post by: Acey on October 15, 2011, 10:14:46 AM
Um.... Don't forget about the latest feedback I left, its very important stuff.... ;D
I already fixed and update 75% of it. Everything up to Mystique's knives, she now shares Wolverine's sharp sounds, and deadpool too.
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on October 16, 2011, 12:38:50 PM
I already fixed and update 75% of it. Everything up to Mystique's knives, she now shares Wolverine's sharp sounds, and deadpool too.
Oh ok, sorry to come off the way I did, i just thought some of that stuff needed some of that stuff needed immediate attention. Thanks for fixing it though :thumbsup:
Post by: Rage on October 17, 2011, 04:11:14 AM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on October 17, 2011, 06:46:38 AM
Is there a way to turn around in the training stage? its a little hard to hit the orbs at times because you cant turn around which cause you to miss other orbs in the process.You can, just at very weird times and spots
Post by: ZVitor on October 17, 2011, 07:47:47 AM
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but moves are not hard to learn... so i tink i will set back turn to "hold back"
Post by: Acey on October 17, 2011, 10:49:12 AM
char turn close to corners, i did that because main goal was not beat balls, was pratice moves, and if i set to turn if he "hold back" then will not be possible do the B,F moves.
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but moves are not hard to learn... so i tink i will set back turn to "hold back"
I think the corners are better actially, I always use that screen to practice the character's move set before going into the real battles.
Post by: novasod on October 17, 2011, 04:49:52 PM
1.Can't jump while dashing forwards or backwards.
2.Can't chain his standing normals together.
3.Can self-chain S.MP while moving forward at least 2 times, with the right timing.
4.Can self-chain H.MP while moving forward at least 7 times, with the right timing.
5.Can self-chain S.HK while moving forward at least 5 times, with the right timing.
6.Can self-chain C.MP at least two times, with the right timing.
7.Can attack opponent when opponent is downed, with C.LK and C.MK.
8.Can self-chain C.MK at least two times, with the right timing.
9.It's hard (but not impossible,) for him to chain Air Normals into Standing Normals.
10.Can self-chain Air.MP at least 2 times.
11.Can self-chain Air.LK at least 2 times.
12.Can self-chain Air.MK at least 2 times.
13.Has no grab.
Post Merge: October 17, 2011, 04:58:11 PM
Also, two general bugs that I noticed;
1.The debug keys are on.
2.Characters don't seem to able to use Crouching Normals when holding either DF or DB.
Post by: Acey on October 17, 2011, 05:08:03 PM
Post by: Acey on October 17, 2011, 05:22:36 PM
Right; with the new release of Second Coming, here I am again. Just an FYI: bug updates are going to be slower this time around, but rest assured, I plan to get everyone done at some point. And first off, is the new the guy; Professor Xavier! :DB:
1.Can't jump while dashing forwards or backwards.
2.Can't chain his standing normals together.
3.Can self-chain S.MP while moving forward at least 2 times, with the right timing.
4.Can self-chain H.MP while moving forward at least 7 times, with the right timing.
5.Can self-chain S.HK while moving forward at least 5 times, with the right timing.
6.Can self-chain C.MP at least two times, with the right timing.
7.Can attack opponent when opponent is downed, with C.LK and C.MK.
8.Can self-chain C.MK at least two times, with the right timing.
9.It's hard (but not impossible,) for him to chain Air Normals into Standing Normals.
10.Can self-chain Air.MP at least 2 times.
11.Can self-chain Air.LK at least 2 times.
12.Can self-chain Air.MK at least 2 times.
13.Has no grab.
Post Merge: October 17, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
Also, two general bugs that I noticed;
1.The debug keys are on.
2.Characters don't seem to able to use Crouching Normals when holding either DF or DB.
All fixed, except there still is no throw and # 2 and 9 are correct as they are. An update will be loaded up tonight.
Post by: ArmageddoN on October 23, 2011, 04:26:33 PM
This is really a game by now, and at this point I think its close to perfection, and i just want to help a little.
Here are some bugs I found while playing.
Deadpool.
- In the win where crashes to the screen, if you are using any of the other palletes the highlighted tones are still red
- In the ninja hypers, some times the opponent cancels it but the green guys still appear runing
- In the hyper where he stabs with the katana, there are some red pixels in the final sprites (I noticed this by using the black pallete on him)
- The granade of MK can freeze the opponent in the middle air, that looks strange.
Bishop
- The stance has some double line of pixels in the head in one of the sprites
Emma Frost
- In the diamond form, If you use Psylocke psychic blade hyper where she gets the opponent in the middle air and you dissapear, the shines of diamond mode doesnt dissapear
- She cant connect his 3 crouching punches
- In the special of the astral form, if you punch with HP and after hit LP the HP gets cancelled
Cable
- Cable hyper where he makes a proyection of him finishs up slideing :P
Nightcrawler
- He dissapear at the start of a team match
Other
- Is professor x suppose to be that strong ? xD Its to much :lol:
- In iceman stage, in the "continue?" screen, a pice of ice stands in front of the char.
- In team mode, the mini portraits of prof x and nightcrawler are bad.
- the "X" that should be showing that one character has been defeated is bad aligned
- A lot of times the characters are bad aligned at the start of a match
- Why in storm forward dash the wind is black using her default pallete?
- Mystique and cyclops has different default palletes, they look cool but they look different near the others :/ And mystique sprite in the rogue hyper using mystique power has the old pallete.
- Gambit hyper portrait could use some color fixes since the default pallete its not the same as the old capcom one, same with juggernaut
- In beast stage professor x passes behind xD
I know a lot of them are a bit stupid, but since the game is almost perfect, every little thing should be fixed. I will try to post more later. And thanks for doing all this
(Sorry for the "english")
Post by: novasod on October 25, 2011, 10:36:56 PM
After Launcher: Can self-chain MK 3 times, with the right timing. Self-chaining Air MK just 2 times is easier.
His "Be on Your Guard..." Super has an awkward looking finisher; the opponent should be knocked a good distance away, but instead, the foe moves back in the air just a bit, then seems to stay there for a second or two untill the full end of the super. :|
Other then just those two issues...he's actually pretty good! At least, in terms of his gameplay. This is more of a personal matter, but, while the sprites are improved from last time, there seems to be less of them, and the animations aren't fluid as before, as a result. I know, nothing can really be done that, but I'm just curious as to why that is.
Post Merge: October 27, 2011, 10:25:36 PM
Next, is Collosus.
1.His voice is a bit hard to hear compared to some of the other characters; too quiet. I'd suggest turning up the volume for his voice.
2.His Crouching Kicks automatically make a 'hit' sound, regardless of whether or not it actually connects with the opponent.
3.The second hit of his LP>LP auto-combo; after the first hit connects, you can guard against the second hit. Also, the second hit has not 'hit' sound when it connects.
4.Cant hit foes while they're downed, with C.LK or C.MK.
5.As soon as he can pollisbly do so, Collosus can hit an opponent with multiple C.LK's, while they're falling down from a C.HK.
6.After Launcher: Can self-chain LK times.
7.After Launcher: Can self-chain MK two times, but only when jumping straight up, after the launch.
8.His winquotes sometimes don't get enough time to play fully.
Post by: novasod on October 28, 2011, 07:29:34 PM
1.Okay, someone tell me something; isn't Rouge a Tank? Because I thought she was a tank, and if so, she shouldn't be able to do full 5-6-hit Magic Chains. So, is she supposed to be able to do that, or not? If not, then you should fix that.
2.Rouge can chain her C.HK into her C.HP, which happens to be a Launcher. This should probably be fixed, and likely has something to with the Magic Chains.
3.C.LK can self-chain 3 times.
4.After opponent is downed, you can follow-up with either C.LK or C.MK. C.LK in particular can be self-chained at least 8 times, when the opponent is downed. Again though, you can use C.MK as well.
5.After Power Drain, Rouge still has the opponent's power after the Power meter runs out.
Also, I've noticed that Rouge really only has one Winpose; changing into any one of several outfits, and then saying "Easy win." It'd be nice if she had some more variation in in her Winposes.
Post by: Tazzer on October 28, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
1.Okay, someone tell me something; isn't Rouge a Tank? Because I thought she was a tank, and if so, she shouldn't be to do full 5-6-hit Magic Chains. So, is supposed to be able to do that, or not? If not, then you should fix that.
Well she was in the last version of the game (a tank, I mean.) However, I didn't think that really fit her at all. The reason for that is because Rogue is kind of a rare combination of Speedy/Agile as well as Tough/Powerful. You don't find that mix often, but sometimes it happens. She's never really been depicted as the "powerful but slow" type. She's got a fair amount of speed to her and is also quite agile.
So really, IMO, she shouldn't be a full on Tank, but she also shouldn't be full on Speedy type either because she fits into both categories. Rogue should really be some kind of mix between the two. Not one extreme or the other. Just my .02 cents.
Post by: Acey on October 28, 2011, 08:57:26 PM
So... she is classified as an air fighter, she is light which means swift but not fast, she only does 15 - 65 in normal hit damage with her groundattacks only doing up to 55 damage. Her specials damamge only does from 65-100 (up to 120 with Power Dive due to long start up time). As far as damage goes Rogue and Storm are the weakest but also have good manuverableility and combo ability.
At the beginning of this process, all the char's stats were charted out and reset according to the style classes that were assigned and their variety of attributes. Their chaining ability, power add, speed, all this stuff was set according to this system.
Agile (Beast, Gambit, Mytisue)
Teleport (Deadpool, Nightcraeler, Psylocke, Quicksilver)
Zone/Beams (Cable, Cyclops, Magneto, Omega Red, Omega Red is a special case)
Bruiser (Colossus, Strong Guy, Namor, Juggernaut, Juggernaut is also a special case)
Float/Air (Rogue, Storm)
Scrapper (Wolverine, Sabretooth)
Guns (Birdy, Bishop)
Telepath (Emma, Prof X)
Post by: Acey on October 29, 2011, 11:06:42 AM
2.Characters don't seem to able to use Crouching Normals when holding either DF or DB.
That is an issue with your keyboard, typically with a wireless keyboard but not always. It's very common in mugen. I suggest using a gamepad.
Post by: novasod on October 30, 2011, 03:11:40 PM
1.C.MP can't be chained from C.LK. Similarly, C.MK can't be chained into at all. I'm giving S.HK and C.HK passes due to how much start-up time they have for Normals.
2.Wolvie's S.MP>S.MP Target Combo can be self-chained up to 4 times; this amounts for 8 hits total.
3.After Launcher: Can self-chain LK 3 times.
4.After opponent is down, Wolvie' can follow-up with either C.LK or C.MK.
Post by: novasod on November 05, 2011, 08:51:43 PM
1.Beast can self-chain S.MP whilst moving forewarned, with the right timing; I haven't been able to completely drain the health-bar myself, but there's potential for an infinite there.
2.When an opponent is downed, Beast can followup... just C.LK. You see, this bug isn't as bad as other characters; for one, he can't use both C.LK and MK, only C.LK, and he has to be in the corner to followup at all. It should still be fixed though. (The following is bolded to make sure no-one misses it.) Also, there's something that's been bothering me for a long time; are characters supposed to be able to attack downed opponents? I keep thinking that the characters shouldn't be able to do this, and yet, just about everywhere I look, there it is, even in EoH. Of course, this wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for instances such as, in some cases, being able to use C.LK 8 times in a row. So, again, is attacking downed opponents (like, say, after a C.HK,) supposed to be there or not?
3.J(Jumping).MP can't hit opponents on the ground. Yes, J.LP can't hit opponents on the ground as well, but that one actually looks like it's not supposed to, as opposed to J.MP, which does.
4.C.MP can't chain to C.MK.
5.Beast can't seem to complete full Launcher Combos well, at least against Nightcrawler. I don't think Nighcrawler has that small a hitbox though, so it's quite possibly the same with other characters as well; he might have an easier time against bigger characters, such as Sabretooth, Collusos or Juggernaut, though.
6.According the Game Manual, Beast's canceling ability is Level 1; in other words, he should be able to cancel normals into specials. He can't do that. This should probably be looked into.
7.If Beast chooses to defuses his mines, there's sound when they defuse. That doesn't feel right.
8.Characters can block against Beast's mines.
9.One of Beast's qinquotes cancels out as soon as it starts. Unfortunately, since I've only seen the very start, I don't know which winquote it is.
10.Beast's throw does too much damage.
Despite all of these problems, Beast is still a very enjoyable character, though again, these bugs need to be fixed.
Post Merge: November 06, 2011, 12:57:16 PM
(Before I begin, if you haven't looked at the bolded area in Beast's section yet, please do so. Anyway...)
Next up, Storm!
1.S.MK can't be chained into from Standing or Crouching normals; Jumping Normals still apply though.
2. Her J.HP Throw looks... awkward. The opponent seems to head right off screen, before disappearing and then coming back where he/she was when the throw started; then the throw continues as normal.
3.She can hit downed opponents. I'.ll say more when I get an answer on that.
4.Can self-chain S.LP whilst moving forward at least 2 times, with the right timing.
5.Can self-chain S.MP whilst moving forward at 4 times.
6.Can self-chain S.LK whilst moving forward at least 2 times, with the right timing.
7.Can follow-up with an J.HP Throw, right after a launcher.
8.Can't directly chain into a J.MP after a launcher; you can self-chain a J.MP after a launcher two times though.
Lastly, this is just a cosmetic issue, not a bug, but... Storm isn't being done justice. When she's all she mostly says is a "DOH!" and when she doesn't do that, she yells out "LIGHTNING STORM!". The only single line, or grunt, she says, is "I'm as strong as a hurricane!". That not only sounds like her, but the dialogue fits her as well. As it is though... she has the looks, and she has the moves, but for the most part, the personality that makes Storn isn't there. Which is a shame, because withe everyone else, you did such a good making them feel like the characters they're representing. My advice, (you don't take it if you don't to of course, it's your game,) is to look into sources such as the three different cartoons, or the X-Men Legends games, and find a good combination of voice-clips that suit the character, because her certain voice mostly doesn't. Just my two cents.
Post by: novasod on November 07, 2011, 09:45:01 PM
1.Can attack downed opponents.
2.Iceman can self-chain C.LK at least 2 times, with the right timing.
3.After Launcher: Can self-chain J.LK two times.
4.After Launcher: Can self-chain J.MK two times.
5.Iceman's Chain level is 1, which means he should be able to chain Normal's into Special's. He can't do that.
Other then those problems, very nice. ;)
Post by: novasod on November 11, 2011, 10:46:36 AM
1.Can attack downed opponents.
2.This isn't strictly a bug, but, concerning his QCB+P, I think it should be a grab. It looks like it should be a grab, and bypass defense as a grab should, but as it is now, it's just a glorified normal. QCB+P would have considerably more of a place in Juggernaut's arsenal if it were a true grab.
3.In Juggernaut's "Ooh yeah, I'm unstoppable!" super where he rams the opponent, not all of the hits fully connect; it'll depend on the distance between Jugs and his opponent, but at some point, there will be enough time between at least two of his attacks for the opponent to defend. You'll probably want to look into that.
4.Juggernauts says "ORA!" his QCF+P special like's a Japanese man. Please fix that.
Post by: novasod on November 22, 2011, 04:00:42 PM
Post by: Acey on November 22, 2011, 04:18:53 PM
Post by: laspacho on January 04, 2012, 08:21:30 PM
Post by: Ross on February 12, 2012, 06:08:50 PM
Edit: cr. lk kick can cancel out anything but his projectile moves. Causing him to go through the floor or into the sky.
Post by: Acey on February 13, 2012, 05:45:56 PM
Bishop can cancel his dp - k move and hyper into cr. lk. Plz fix.
Edit: cr. lk kick can cancel out anything but his projectile moves. Causing him to go through the floor or into the sky.
Great find, thanks Roshie!
Post by: jethroyo on June 12, 2012, 03:32:10 AM
Was he made that way or this only have problems with keyboard players?
Edit just in case I dont get in trouble double posting:
Ya brought a gamepad and it does the same thing >_>. Connecting a chain combo does not work in air.
Post by: Acey on June 15, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
Am I the only one having problems chaining Cyclops air combos?
Was he made that way or this only have problems with keyboard players?
Edit just in case I dont get in trouble double posting:
Ya brought a gamepad and it does the same thing >_>. Connecting a chain combo does not work in air.
Could you be more specific? What exactly are you trying to do?
Post by: jethroyo on June 18, 2012, 01:30:03 AM
Could you be more specific? What exactly are you trying to do?
When I launch an opponent into the air (D Hp) to do an air combo, Cyclops can only connect Lp - Lk - Mp. After trying to connect either Mk, and end it with a Hk (or Hp), he goes down before the opponent.
I think its the jumping height problem or his gravity, when trying to air combo an opponent.
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on July 02, 2012, 12:33:14 PM
Normal Bastion appears when Legacy Virus Bastion's Psychic Cutter (I think that's the name for that circle move) collide's with Cable's Crackdown.
Birdie's number of his & her damage when she do her This Is X-Parta attack. I think it would be better if it was like in X-Men vs Street fighter. 35 Hits, short but really effective.
Post by: Astaroth on July 12, 2012, 05:42:14 PM
Normally, I'd assume these were design choices, since Zvitor mentioned that he wanted to limit combos in some characters. However, the Mystique that is playable in X-Men: SC seems to combo perfectly fine, with perfectly responsive zigzag and LMH combos. Anyone else have this problem?
Since I'm already posting, here's some other issues I've found:
-Some of Colossus's attacks make hit noises, even if they are blocked or miss completely. In all honesty, this is an easy fix (just delete the hitnoises using FF; they really aren't necessary anyhow) but it's worth mentioning so that other less mugen-savvy people who download him won't have the same problems.
-Juggernaut's QCB+K move (the bodyslam) doesn't seem to have any hitnoise at all.
-Quicksilver's QCF+PP hyper (the quick punches) is really difficult to combo into, does horrendously low damage, and even PUSHES Quicksilver away from his target, reducing the potential damage even further. I know that ZV is trying to lean away from high-damage combos and chaining into hypers for XSC, but you should probably change SOMETHING about this move so that it's a viable choice in a fight, or at least so that it fits his kit a little better. This is a minor complaint, though.
Thank you for your time!
Post by: ZVitor on July 12, 2012, 06:08:03 PM
i updated mystique combos to xsc 1.0,
i should take some time to re-releases this chars with this updates.
i was playng with quick this weekend and i had this problem too, will save that to his "to do" list.
thanks and bring more feedback and bugs, is always welcome.