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IMT Projects => Avengers vs. X-Men => Topic started by: Acey on June 14, 2012, 05:57:27 PM

Title: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 14, 2012, 05:57:27 PM
So if someone ended up making a Hope cahracter some day what would be some possible special and hyper attacks for her?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: ZVitor on June 14, 2012, 06:38:05 PM
i like her big guns and future gadgets.

last time i saw her was on XSC, i dont know so much about her powers, she is like a peter petrelli from tv heroes?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 15, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
True, technically her powers are the ability to influence the mutant genes around her and can mimic other's powers somewhat due to proximity...
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on June 15, 2012, 10:45:20 AM
Right

Like the Shiar Skrull Warrior shoved a claw through her, but because Logan was in the same area she was able to borrow Logans abilities.

She's different than Rogue, or Mimic though in the sense she doesnt need to physically touch them, nor is it automatic. She has to will the borrowing of powers.

She has psychic blasts she can unleash in unknow circumstances too.

Obviously there the Pheonix force for a hyper too, but thats a lil tired, and old hat (but prehaps neccessary)

Hope is still kinda new so they havent really reveled a lot about her powers yet.

I gotta assume there will be more to come since shes an Omega level mutant
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: G.P.O.A - GatlingPunchRalf on June 15, 2012, 10:59:57 AM
I sort of have to think that they would either give her more standard specials, or make it obvious who's powers she'll borrow by having there be a selection screen pre-fight or have them all show up in an intro or something.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on June 15, 2012, 11:59:44 AM
True, technically her powers are the ability to influence the mutant genes around her and can mimic other's powers somewhat due to proximity...

 cool!  so that kind of makes her somewhat like Synch from Generation X. He has pretty much same type of ability. may work a bit differently ( because of the aura thingy) but still very dang close. he basically can mimics others abilities within a certain proximity and has been known to "hold" that ability even after the person has left it.  i still have the first series of the comic. good stuff too.

hypers and specials... i would have her do a move where she actually "taps" into the oppsing characters abilities and use one  that characters major moves for a special.. it got pulled off with Rogue that you done acey so maybe instead like how the whole kiss activates it, she does a sorta psychic linking ( aura around her head type deal) and thats how she gets the powers.  characters that are strong in strength , she gains a power boost in dishing out damage or have a super strength move. could play on that many ways. there is alot that could be done with her indeed.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: ZVitor on June 15, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
True, technically her powers are the ability to influence the mutant genes around her and can mimic other's powers somewhat due to proximity...
so
hypothetically
would be great if she have a different special hyper to each char from one hypothetical roster.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 15, 2012, 12:10:38 PM
Wow... we've been there before...  :-[
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: G.P.O.A - GatlingPunchRalf on June 15, 2012, 12:29:24 PM
Wow... we've been there before...  :-[
So Hypothetical Hope needs the Acey Rogue treatment?... Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 15, 2012, 12:35:42 PM
So Hypothetical Hope needs the Acey Rogue treatment?... Sounds good to me!

I'm not even done with Rogue yet!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: JagwarKnight on June 15, 2012, 12:41:02 PM
One thing to remember about Hope is that she was ALSO raised and trained  by Cable and while I'm not saying give her some of the Crazy Gun stuff that he got in MVC2. maybe some Close Combat like Moves and a Gun Special or two *Kinda Like Mystique by zvitor* would be a good start while mapping out what she can do with her powers  :)

Edit: In Fact, I can see her playing as a Bit of like Rouge with a touch of MVC3 Chris* his Combation Punch move would  be a Good non Mutant power type of move for her,changed around a little of Course*
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Epic Win Man on June 15, 2012, 01:23:37 PM
...hopethethical?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: ZVitor on June 15, 2012, 01:30:19 PM
Wow... we've been there before...  :-[
yea, or maybe she should play like your rogue with konami code.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 15, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
I found a crouch animation for this hypothetical character.

(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/images/AceySprites/HopeCrouch.gif)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on June 15, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Theres some plot lines going on involving the Iron Fist power too.

I'll post something if it unravels, but it's looking like a Hope will somehow get similar abilities to Iron Fist which somehow gave a previous host greater control of the Pheonix Force.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on June 15, 2012, 02:35:55 PM
I found a crouch animation for this hypothetical character.

(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/images/AceySprites/HopeCrouch.gif)

Nice crouch for her and love that design for her!!  :thumbsup:

Hope she becomes a "hypothetical" WIP!!! :)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 15, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
That crouch looks so smooth
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Xfields on June 15, 2012, 03:30:48 PM
i like that crouch
i guess hope could borrow movements from other characters of the game...i mean, limitless, not like rogue, but she can have moves from any character of the game...dunno
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on June 15, 2012, 04:17:23 PM
i like that crouch
i guess hope could borrow movements from other characters of the game...i mean, limitless, not like rogue, but she can have moves from any character of the game...dunno

Yeah u could have her mimic only X-men chars powers in order to be a bit different than Roque who can steal powers from other games too!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Spidermew on June 15, 2012, 04:23:53 PM
What if at the start of the match, you had to pick from a group of characters, who's powers you have at the time.
Like a short amount of time to pick up to 5 or so mutants that she has used the abilitys of at some time in the past. (but if you dont act fast enough then you dont get anything)
Include a few powers that she has no matter what, and rogues coppy ability once its finished.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: G.P.O.A - GatlingPunchRalf on June 15, 2012, 05:58:47 PM
What if at the start of the match, you had to pick from a group of characters, who's powers you have at the time.
Like a short amount of time to pick up to 5 or so mutants that she has used the abilitys of at some time in the past. (but if you dont act fast enough then you dont get anything)
Include a few powers that she has no matter what, and rogues coppy ability once its finished.
That's pretty much what I said a while ago.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Spidermew on June 15, 2012, 06:11:30 PM
That's pretty much what I said a while ago.
i see, well to be fair i didnt read any of the other posts. The idea hit me and i jotted it down..  :thumbsup:

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/SpiderMew/Emoting/EmoteSpiderMew.gif)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 15, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
Actually I had the idea first... I just started this thread to see whose ideas I could steal... I mean... which ideas were exactly like the ones I already had.

 :cool
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on June 15, 2012, 06:33:08 PM
Cool!!

So if Hope becomes a playable char in project X, that will mean that she wont follow Cable like she did in the first project X?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Spidermew on June 15, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
For when you fight her (ie: AI only), have 2 modes. Easy mode where she just has the default powers and coppy, and boss mode where she has all mutant powers active and all coppy powers active.

 :8 :8 :2 :2 :4 :6 :4 :6 :bp :bk :F1 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on June 15, 2012, 06:48:03 PM
Good idea SpiderMew!!!  ^^(PM)^


I remember a guy that uploaded an unofficial release of Cable with Hope doing a Phoenix Force hyper and maybe u could use that FX for a Phoenix Force hyper if u plan to add it on her moves!!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 15, 2012, 07:09:39 PM
I remember that patch.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Rage on June 15, 2012, 09:19:50 PM
Good idea SpiderMew!!!  ^^(PM)^


I remember a guy that uploaded an unofficial release of Cable with Hope doing a Phoenix Force hyper and maybe u could use that FX for a Phoenix Force hyper if u plan to add it on her moves!!
where is that patch. ive been looking for it. tho idk how to install it.  :|
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on June 16, 2012, 09:33:06 AM
Thats the link for him guys:

http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=36183.msg438172#msg438172 (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=36183.msg438172#msg438172)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 16, 2012, 10:00:59 AM
Actually the new attacks have been included in the current version of Cable that is downloadable from the website. I strongly suggest you use that version since the code for the new moves was heavily adjusted to "work better" and be "bug free".
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Megabyte on June 22, 2012, 02:13:05 PM
Typically it sounds like she would be ALMOST identical to Rogue...what I would do differently though is maybe have her powers activate at the start of the round (not sure if this is possible in mugen yet though) where maybe there is a darkened screen to denote that she is starting to gain their ability and that is where she will typically become a project as big as Acey's Rogue and Buyog's Parasite...she'll need a huge library of possible powers to tap into...I think it would be possible though...then like someone else said, give her some weapons as other specials...maybe a Phoenix force Lvl 3 hyper would be appropriate (is it possible to do Phoenix's MvC3 'Dark Phoenix' hyper in mugen?)

P.S. Thank you to (forgot who it was) for remembering one of my favorite Marvel characters, Sync...sucks that Marvel felt it was appropriate to kill him off though (*sigh* and that day we lost yet ANOTHER black superhero :-w)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: volzzilla on June 22, 2012, 02:19:59 PM
Actually the new attacks have been included in the current version of Cable that is downloadable from the website. I strongly suggest you use that version since the code for the new moves was heavily adjusted to "work better" and be "bug free".

beyond that time when you updated the cable to include that hope hyper made by obsidian i believe? or that what you mean and nothing more done?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Blagoy on June 22, 2012, 07:21:31 PM
Hope for Hope !!!  :thumbsup: \-/o
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on June 23, 2012, 06:24:42 AM
Hope for Hope !!!  :thumbsup: \-/o

Hope that too!!!  :w00t:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 26, 2012, 04:12:32 PM
I guess it's about time I rename this topic...

(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/images/AceySprites/HopePunch.gif)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on June 26, 2012, 04:56:41 PM
The punches are awesome Acey!!!   :w00t:

Wow!!! It will become a wip thread?

Good luck on her if she will become a wip!!!  :thumbsup:

That would be great!!!  ^^(PM)^
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Blagoy on June 26, 2012, 05:27:55 PM
Look very nice   ::salute::
Good Luck  %%-
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: dev. on June 26, 2012, 05:28:48 PM
nice work,acey.cant wait to see what the new PX brings to us.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 26, 2012, 06:10:35 PM
Very nice Ace.

So Cable will just be fighting alone for the next update (assuming Hope is in the next update)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on June 26, 2012, 06:27:55 PM
Very nice Ace.

So Cable will just be fighting alone for the next update (assuming Hope is in the next update)

Well... actually... yes and no... I kind of can't explain at this moment.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on June 26, 2012, 07:03:09 PM
Well... actually... yes and no... I kind of can't explain at this moment.

Maybe it will be 2 chars in 1 for a tag team game play for Cable and Hope althought i want both Cable and Hope to be single chars!!! :)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on July 03, 2012, 05:36:59 PM
So... what have you been up to? I've been doing sprites. Just a few more of these aweful get hit sprites.

(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/images/AceySprites/HopeGetHit.png)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 03, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Looks excellent Ace. Glad you got the gethits out of the way
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: laspacho on July 03, 2012, 06:45:06 PM
Nice get hits, good idea to get them out of the way early.  I usually end up doing most of the other basic movements before doing the get hits for some odd reason.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Spidermew on July 03, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
Those look good.  :thumbsup: I hate doing get-hits, its the most boring part.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 03, 2012, 09:11:56 PM
I agree. I already had half of Sonic's gethits done before I started on anything else.

Wait ... half ...

 o.O#
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Xfields on July 04, 2012, 11:24:46 PM
get hits are ok for me...my big problem are the walking
never goes right in the first try
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on July 06, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
get hits are ok for me...my big problem are the walking
never goes right in the first try

I'm trying to make you proud with my custom animations.  :cool
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Xfields on July 07, 2012, 12:19:37 AM
youre not only making me proud...youre making me jealous too lol....
awesome work...im waiting for this character since the first sprite i saw on cable topic at px forum lol
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on July 09, 2012, 08:16:51 PM
Nice get hits sprites Acey!!!  ^^(PM)^

Keep it up!!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: esn23 on July 14, 2012, 01:10:43 PM
beautiful acey great work.. I agree with you the sprites that annoy me the most are the get hits they are boring and sometimes the positions they get into are very unrealistic but you did a great job on everything in this topic :)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 31, 2012, 06:40:42 PM
they way things are going, I think that "Hypothetical" should be removed from the topic's name
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on January 01, 2013, 12:42:34 AM
One thing is for certain, she is going to be the very last character finished for... any possible use that we may have for her is she wasn't hypothetical.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on January 01, 2013, 07:08:05 AM
I really cant wait for her!!!  :thumbsup:

Hope for Hope in 2013!!!  :w00t:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 01, 2013, 12:23:27 PM
Hope for Hope in 2013!!!  :w00t:

 %-(
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: boogerboy on January 01, 2013, 12:30:45 PM
I really cant wait for her!!!  :thumbsup:

Hope for Hope in 2013!!!  :w00t:
Me too!  :w00t:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: dev. on January 01, 2013, 12:34:49 PM
Me too!  :w00t:

Me three.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Arkady on January 01, 2013, 06:39:58 PM
me 4?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: warecus on January 01, 2013, 07:14:39 PM
 i will change the subject

i'm a little foggy....so hope has rogue like abilities?

i wonder how acey implemented that to make her stand out from the rouge? hum.

maybe she will have a few cable future weapons too.  who knows who knows.
Title: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: Acey on January 01, 2013, 08:17:17 PM
Hope is planned out and I think everyone will like how she turns out. Warecus is hitting on some key points but she will not play like Rogue, we have something else in mind.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Hope
Post by: NX-MEN on January 02, 2013, 06:41:45 AM
Bet she will have Phoenix powers!! :)

I am very anxious about the boss too!!!  :w00t:
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