Post by: .Batzarro. on September 02, 2008, 02:42:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzT23u38GBA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzT23u38GBA)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1p9ukj
No more clones, new sounds, pal issue fixed (12 pals in all, one done by Mew), and a few other things done to her. Hope you guys enjoy her. :thumbsup:
Oh, and if anyone can make her a kick @ss AI patch, I'd really appreciate it. ;D
Almost forgot to mention. The Ivy is a bit mediocre, those sprites of her were only meant to be place holders but I completely forgot about them and it would of taken a week or two to update those. So, instead of waiting for me to update those, I'll just do it a bit down the line now. Just know that those weren't meant to be the finished products of her sprites.
Thanks to everyone that has helped on her. :thumbsup:
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 02, 2008, 04:10:10 AM
Post by: The Anvil on September 02, 2008, 05:35:57 AM
Post by: DrHellSpawn on September 02, 2008, 06:04:34 AM
edit: her select pic is messed up, i couldnt fix it with fighter factory ???
Post by: celobateira on September 02, 2008, 07:24:51 AM
A few AI and she will be a pain in the .ss
Congrats .Batzarro. great release
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on September 02, 2008, 08:05:59 AM
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on September 02, 2008, 08:30:42 AM
her clsn in most of here attacks are to big and illogical, her basic clsn in her walking is off.
In all of her hypers, the hyper bg stays on for to long.
Poisin ivy gives debug spam.
the cammy asualt hyper(because it looks like it) gives debug spam when p1 hits p2 with the last grapple slame attack.
Her meele hyper, doesnt connect 100% of the time in the last attack.
The rocket launcher hyper doesnt hit p2 when up close.
its all good tho, her animations are real smooth.
congrats on the release.
Post by: Alexziq on September 02, 2008, 09:13:12 AM
just acouple things i noticed(im in class right now so i cant take ny screenshots of it)
her clsn in most of here attacks are to big and illogical, her basic clsn in her walking is off.
In all of her hypers, the hyper bg stays on for to long.
Poisin ivy gives debug spam.
the cammy asualt hyper(because it looks like it) gives debug spam when p1 hits p2 with the last grapple slame attack.
Her meele hyper, doesnt connect 100% of the time in the last attack.
The rocket launcher hyper doesnt hit p2 when up close.
its all good tho, her animations are real smooth.
congrats on the release.
Just a few things
Her walking was taken from Mika exact, which was Zarro's preference
Second the Killer Bee adapted from Cammy hits differant based on p2's position, and does a variation of the move depending on the location. To my knowledge thats exactly how the origional works in the Cammy I used as basis for the move. I'd be happy to impove it, but since the move works that way I'd need advice on how to do so. Im not sure what slam you means doesnt hit 100% of the time, but I hadnt noticed that problem myself. Any advice on this move is appreciated though, as I wanted to improve it from the Cammy I used as base code, but no one had any advice that I could find.
I did notice in Debug that the Ivy helper shows a bug, but I see none in gameplay, so I let that go for the beta.
Post by: GTAguy on September 02, 2008, 10:43:30 AM
Thanks :)
Post by: galactus on September 02, 2008, 10:49:50 AM
just downloaded her and had a bit of a look and I have to say she was well and truely worth the wait. :thumbsup:
and I would just like to say well done Batzarro and ALEXZIQ plus anyone else who worked on her =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
and many thanks for the release :) :thumbsup: ;D
cheers :thumbsup: :)
Post by: J.C.McMinis on September 02, 2008, 04:29:07 PM
I did find one glitch however..when Harley does the headlock/bulldog throw on the Joker he shifts positions and looks like he's standing on her shoulders.
Post by: Alexziq on September 02, 2008, 04:55:51 PM
Very cool Batzarro. Glad you got the clone issue fixed fixed. ^^(PM)^
I did find one glitch however..when Harley does the headlock/bulldog throw on the Joker he shifts positions and looks like he's standing on her shoulders.
I think thats a problem with Joker, I will address shortley
Post by: fer619 on September 02, 2008, 06:14:07 PM
i'm gonna check her out when i have the time
Post by: laspacho on September 02, 2008, 06:18:56 PM
Post by: I_Burner on September 02, 2008, 09:08:35 PM
Thanks for yet another epic Team Spoiler release!
Post by: George Costanza on September 02, 2008, 11:50:52 PM
Time To Rev Up Ur Harlys Boys <3
:w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :thumbsup:
Btw what band was that it was awesome
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on September 03, 2008, 12:25:44 AM
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 03, 2008, 12:52:12 AM
Post by: Z4kaR1 on September 03, 2008, 12:55:00 AM
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 03, 2008, 12:57:53 AM
Dr.FeelGood: The band is Rise Against. They're awesome, look up "Prayer for a Refugee" and "Drones" by them. :)
Komm: Sure, go right ahead. The more she's out there, the better. :)
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 03, 2008, 01:09:39 AM
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5113/newharleyportraitqo2.png)
Post by: J.C.McMinis on September 03, 2008, 01:13:17 AM
Hey Batzarro and Alexziq how do you like the new portrait i made for Harley Quinn?
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5113/newharleyportraitqo2.png)
Oooh I likey ^^(PM)^
Post by: Alexziq on September 03, 2008, 01:27:45 AM
Im curious, maybe you guys can help. I programmed the grab/bulldog using MvC2 Ken, is there something thats out of sync, ot misaligned?
I just like that move, and want it to look good. How it looks obviously depends on how well P2 is programmed but agaist a properly coded character like Ken, or Ryu, does it look good??
Post by: Vault-tec Rep Høröúßøí on September 03, 2008, 01:30:45 AM
Hey Batzarro and Alexziq how do you like the new portrait i made for Harley Quinn?
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5113/newharleyportraitqo2.png)
I want one ;D
Post by: J.C.McMinis on September 03, 2008, 01:34:57 AM
That looks great next to jill.
Im curious, maybe you guys can help. I programmed the grab/bulldog using MvC2 Ken, is there something thats out of sync, ot misaligned?
I just like that move, and want it to look good. How it looks obviously depends on how well P2 is programmed but agaist a properly coded character like Ken, or Ryu, does it look good??
ALEXIQ I've tested Harley against alot of char and the bulldog looks fine. The only one I have seen a problem with, as I said above is Joker. But you addresses that earlier.
Hey Stallion could ya send me a copy of that portrait.
Post by: dragonesku on September 03, 2008, 04:04:56 AM
Post by: George Costanza on September 03, 2008, 08:31:54 AM
Hey Batzarro and Alexziq how do you like the new portrait i made for Harley Quinn?
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5113/newharleyportraitqo2.png)
I want one ;D
i want that 2
but can sum1 tell me how to change portraits !?!?!?!
Post by: Alexziq on September 03, 2008, 08:41:08 AM
Hey Batzarro and Alexziq how do you like the new portrait i made for Harley Quinn?
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5113/newharleyportraitqo2.png)
I want one ;D
i want that 2
but can sum1 tell me how to change portraits !?!?!?!
Once you have the new port go into Fighter Factory scroll through the sprites till you get to the port, make sure youre in the sprites, the Icon up top with a little guys head. On the left side of FF theres a toolbox, one of the tabs is the change sprite tab. Click it, and you should be able select a new port.
Post by: George Costanza on September 03, 2008, 08:44:31 AM
Hey Batzarro and Alexziq how do you like the new portrait i made for Harley Quinn?
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5113/newharleyportraitqo2.png)
I want one ;D
i want that 2
but can sum1 tell me how to change portraits !?!?!?!
Once you have the new port go into Fighter Factory scroll through the sprites till you get to the port, make sure youre in the sprites, the Icon up top with a little guys head. On the left side of FF theres a toolbox, one of the tabs is the change sprite tab. Click it, and you should be able select a new port.
It go's For Both Big And Small Portraits?
Post by: Alexziq on September 03, 2008, 08:51:32 AM
Post by: George Costanza on September 03, 2008, 09:00:07 AM
Yep you can change any sprite that way.
ok ok i get it but does the image have to be like a Sff or can it be Jpeg Also?
Post by: Sabaki on September 03, 2008, 11:24:56 AM
That looks great next to jill.If the grab/bulldog looks good on other characters and the targetbind is coded exactly where p2 should be, then the issue's most likely the Joker. There are 2 things to check. First, check his constants, which is on top of the .cns. Try to adjust the head.pos, mid.pos, height, etc. and test to see if characters interact with the changes based on how the sprites look. 2nd, check the required sprites, especially the one that's used for p2 during the grab/bulldog. Could be that Joker's misaligned. Best way to determine that is to open up Kung Fu Man and compare all of his required sprites with the Joker's. Hope this helps.
Im curious, maybe you guys can help. I programmed the grab/bulldog using MvC2 Ken, is there something thats out of sync, ot misaligned?
I just like that move, and want it to look good. How it looks obviously depends on how well P2 is programmed but agaist a properly coded character like Ken, or Ryu, does it look good??
Post by: Captain Cold on September 03, 2008, 12:32:02 PM
-pop guns attacks seem way slow except the boxing glove one
so far looks great keep it up :)
Post by: Alexziq on September 03, 2008, 01:36:20 PM
a lil feed back
-pop guns attacks seem way slow except the boxing glove one
so far looks great keep it up :)
I actually adjusted that, the cork guns are exactly the same animation frame time as the boxing glove in this latest release. The flag is slower just to add an element of surprise to it. I guess it just may seem like its slower but technically its the same speed.
Post by: Alexziq on September 03, 2008, 01:44:28 PM
Congratz on the release, Batzarro! Alot of people (including myself) have been looking forward to this WIP for a long time. The vid makes her look like a load of fun. Gonna try her out in a few :)That looks great next to jill.If the grab/bulldog looks good on other characters and the targetbind is coded exactly where p2 should be, then the issue's most likely the Joker. There are 2 things to check. First, check his constants, which is on top of the .cns. Try to adjust the head.pos, mid.pos, height, etc. and test to see if characters interact with the changes based on how the sprites look. 2nd, check the required sprites, especially the one that's used for p2 during the grab/bulldog. Could be that Joker's misaligned. Best way to determine that is to open up Kung Fu Man and compare all of his required sprites with the Joker's. Hope this helps.
Im curious, maybe you guys can help. I programmed the grab/bulldog using MvC2 Ken, is there something thats out of sync, ot misaligned?
I just like that move, and want it to look good. How it looks obviously depends on how well P2 is programmed but agaist a properly coded character like Ken, or Ryu, does it look good??
Appreciate the feedback, and that was my exact thoughts. Batzarro still feels theres something not quite right about it, he didnt seem to mind I just couldnt figure out what he means. There is a shift in P2 position, going from headlock to the sidelock going into bulldog but that was done purposely, otherwise it looks like lazy coding to me if P2 doesnt adjust with Harley's movement.
Other than that I can only think its how p2 bounces onto his back on impact, but since Im dependent on the states P2 can do within required sprites its the closest I could get, and as far as I know thats how Mika's is done too :-??
Post by: Alexziq on September 03, 2008, 02:00:46 PM
Yep you can change any sprite that way.
ok ok i get it but does the image have to be like a Sff or can it be Jpeg Also?
Its gotta be either a 256 color bitmap or pcx, if not converted right, it may cause colors to become transparent.
Post by: Captain Cold on September 03, 2008, 02:12:44 PM
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 03, 2008, 02:14:04 PM
ALEXZIQ would you like me to send it to you and then you can just change the link with the update version of her with the new portrait?
Post by: Alexziq on September 03, 2008, 02:20:32 PM
Hey everone, about the new portrait i made for Harley, i will send it to anyone that wants it.
ALEXZIQ would you like me to send it to you and then you can just change the link with the update version of her with the new portrait?
I like your port a lot, but Zarro's vision of the character is to use all MvC edited stuff. I think you could safely allow people to download it in the graphic arts section if you wish. If I were you I would see if someone wants to do a similar style hyper portrait using comic art, and offer them up as a 2 pack. so people can customize Harley if they choose.
Post by: Kurizu208 on September 03, 2008, 02:47:58 PM
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 03, 2008, 03:56:34 PM
-jcmcminis
-Hollow Boy
-Dr.FeelGood
-DarkTalbain
-Captain Cold
Already in .pcx format.
If anyone else would like that portrait just let me know. :thumbsup:
Post by: Alexziq on September 03, 2008, 04:38:01 PM
Alright I sent the portrait to those who requested it:
-jcmcminis
-Hollow Boy
-Dr.FeelGood
-DarkTalbain
Already in .pcx format.
If anyone else would like that portrait just let me know. :thumbsup:
Id like a copy for use in differant packs
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 03, 2008, 04:42:21 PM
Alright I sent the portrait to those who requested it:
-jcmcminis
-Hollow Boy
-Dr.FeelGood
-DarkTalbain
Already in .pcx format.
If anyone else would like that portrait just let me know. :thumbsup:
Id like a copy for use in differant packs
Yeah deff man, ill send it right now.
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 03, 2008, 05:00:02 PM
Stallion: Thanks for giving people alternate options to the select pic. Like how it looks as well, but I'll be keeping the one I made. The select pic I made was actually way bigger and a full body shot, but it turned out to be way too big for in-game. Will resize it later on to fully use it. :)
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on September 03, 2008, 06:48:23 PM
Post by: alex87 on September 04, 2008, 03:21:56 PM
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 04, 2008, 09:35:41 PM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5mh2og (http://www.sendspace.com/file/5mh2og)
The SFF had some sprites with misplaced colors and it took away a little from palettes. The CNS actually still had the clone problem, but it was really rare to run into. Now, it no longer happens. Hope you guys enjoy. :)
As for the bulldog, it actually does shift but only with certain characters. As mentioned Joker was one, and the Scruffy Superboy is another, I believe. Not sure where the prob really lies though as it doesn't happen with everyone like I first thought. :-??
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on September 04, 2008, 10:38:40 PM
Here's another minor update, guys. Just her SFF and CNS to replace.got it hosted ;D
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5mh2og (http://www.sendspace.com/file/5mh2og)
The SFF had some sprites with misplaced colors and it took away a little from palettes. The CNS actually still had the clone problem, but it was really rare to run into. Now, it no longer happens. Hope you guys enjoy. :)
As for the bulldog, it actually does shift but only with certain characters. As mentioned Joker was one, and the Scruffy Superboy is another, I believe. Not sure where the prob really lies though as it doesn't happen with everyone like I first thought. :-??
Post by: George Costanza on September 05, 2008, 01:06:39 AM
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 05, 2008, 01:43:12 AM
the harley portrait looks weird >.<
The one that came with the character or the one i sent you?
Post by: George Costanza on September 05, 2008, 02:32:15 AM
the harley portrait looks weird >.<
The one that came with the character or the one i sent you?
the colors are weird and the portrait dont show up either
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 05, 2008, 02:40:19 AM
the harley portrait looks weird >.<
The one that came with the character or the one i sent you?
the colors are weird and the portrait dont show up either
Yeah well you deff did it wrong then, maybe you didn't decrease the colors. Im not sure what you did wrong, but it looks fine in the screenshot i posted.
Post by: George Costanza on September 05, 2008, 06:46:07 AM
the harley portrait looks weird >.<
The one that came with the character or the one i sent you?
the colors are weird and the portrait dont show up either
:-??
idk what i did either >.<
Yeah well you deff did it wrong then, maybe you didn't decrease the colors. Im not sure what you did wrong, but it looks fine in the screenshot i posted.
Post by: ItalianStallion on September 12, 2008, 03:19:47 AM
(http://i33.tinypic.com/ayob5c.jpg)