Post by: Keijikun on September 23, 2009, 07:33:10 PM
Post by: Yung Kratos on September 23, 2009, 10:34:18 PM
Post by: Rage on September 23, 2009, 11:18:46 PM
Post by: Spidermew on September 24, 2009, 09:07:51 AM
There's always the chance you'll have a few secret charcters in there.
Post by: A New Challenger on September 24, 2009, 09:30:40 AM
Post by: Yung Kratos on September 24, 2009, 09:55:20 AM
You do realize that the classic series ends when Wily tries to activate an unready Zero, and he goes nuts and kills everything ever before finally getting shut down, right? A buffed Zero would make a killer boss.word :)
Post by: UltraRoboninja on September 24, 2009, 12:02:49 PM
You do realize that the classic series ends when Wily tries to activate an unready Zero, and he goes nuts and kills everything ever before finally getting shut down, right? A buffed Zero would make a killer boss.That's actually just a rumor. Series creator Keiji Inafune said Zero would never do that. It's actually a pretty interesting read: http://www.capcomdigital.com/blog/2008/09/05/inafunesan_answers_your_questions (http://www.capcomdigital.com/blog/2008/09/05/inafunesan_answers_your_questions)
1) Did Zero really "kill" the family between the events of the Classic Mega Man and X series?
KI: No, Zero did not kill them. According to the way I created him, Zero is not such a person--it is not in his profile.
Post by: Keijikun on September 24, 2009, 02:08:39 PM
That's actually just a rumor. Series creator Keiji Inafune said Zero would never do that. It's actually a pretty interesting read: http://www.capcomdigital.com/blog/2008/09/05/inafunesan_answers_your_questions (http://www.capcomdigital.com/blog/2008/09/05/inafunesan_answers_your_questions)Interesting read, that was. Also, since there's a big blank space between the latest Classic series games and the start of the X series, that means that there's a possibility that Zero was activated during that time and may have done battle with Megaman. Also, since Megaman X is going to be in, I thought it might be interesting for X to meet his partner before becoming the Maverick Hunter he was in the X series.
1) Did Zero really "kill" the family between the events of the Classic Mega Man and X series?
KI: No, Zero did not kill them. According to the way I created him, Zero is not such a person--it is not in his profile.
Post by: Gaijin on September 24, 2009, 03:50:40 PM
Interesting read, that was. Also, since there's a big blank space between the latest Classic series games and the start of the X series, that means that there's a possibility that Zero was activated during that time and may have done battle with Megaman. Also, since Megaman X is going to be in, I thought it might be interesting for X to meet his partner before becoming the Maverick Hunter he was in the X series.No actually there is no possibility as the creator said it himself. Zero didn't do it. However it is likely that megaman's system may have shut down after some time. The question is after Wily died.....who carried on his work? As for the Megaman X thing you said. Actually I am pretty sure he did. I mean X was found then Dr. Cain made copies or should I say replicas of him which he called reploids. Sigma and all other maverick hunters were somewhat modeled after X. And after Sigma fought Zero it is a possibility that X could have ran across him before that.
Post by: Yung Kratos on September 25, 2009, 03:52:44 PM
Post by: Spidermew on September 25, 2009, 05:55:21 PM
See I think he wanted to put his brain into zero, using that dark energy crap.
That would be why zero freaks out in that video when he's fighting sigma and the W starts flashing in his crystal.
The mixing of Dr. Wily's own evil and the dark energy, planted into the most soficated android ever would probably cause the maverick virus, and if it is Dr. Wily that would explain why all the weird reploids go evil, they were all based on mega man x.
I think X is Rock, just enhanced, to be on Zero's level, cuz light would have had to have found out about it or figured thats what wily would do, and thats why he hid those capsules everywhere..
Post by: Gaijin on September 25, 2009, 06:27:37 PM
I think the maverick virus is Dr. Wily's mind.X and rock are two totally different robots. That rumor has long since been known to have been squashed. I can see why you would think so. Zero freaked out like that because of a minor glitch in his system that appears later on to have been fixed. Wily's work with other robots was always glitchy and full of problems but Zero...though he was his masterpiece still had problems. In other words it was just an error that occurred in his memory. The evil energy fused with something a code made by doctor Wily is what caused Zero to go maverick. It is basically sort of a program that can travel through the air and once it infects its host it corrupts the reploids mind and make then all operate according to Wily's plan for world domination which since Wily was dead he couldnt be their master so they decided to seek it for themselves. But see Sigma is the strongest of all the reploids that were created and modeled after X and that is why he is the leader of them all. Plus he can program their internal systems to make them fight against one another. Wily never wanted to put his brain in Zero but he did want to win against Dr. Light's Megaman and X so much so that he created Zero to counter everything that X can do. That is why he is superior to X in every way. Upu ever noticed that Zero can erase shots...more specifically even X's. theres more but I dont want to bore ppl with it.
See I think he wanted to put his brain into zero, using that dark energy crap.
That would be why zero freaks out in that video when he's fighting sigma and the W starts flashing in his crystal.
The mixing of Dr. Wily's own evil and the dark energy, planted into the most soficated android ever would probably cause the maverick virus, and if it is Dr. Wily that would explain why all the weird reploids go evil, they were all based on mega man x.
I think X is Rock, just enhanced, to be on Zero's level, cuz light would have had to have found out about it or figured thats what wily would do, and thats why he hid those capsules everywhere..
Post by: Spidermew on September 25, 2009, 07:27:46 PM
Post by: Mugendude26 on September 25, 2009, 07:44:24 PM
Kenji Inafune: A large amount of time has passed between the classic series and Mega Man X. Dr. Wily had died in the interim but was brought back by the virus. Dr. Wily and Weil are not the same person. It is ironic though, because Dr. Wily created Zero, and Dr. Weil used Zero, but ultimately it was a copy of Zero's original body with a different mind that defeated him.
So I guess that means Sigma brought Dr. Wily back in the X series with his virus?
Post by: Spidermew on September 25, 2009, 09:30:21 PM
6): What happened to Dr. Wily in Rockman X series? Are Dr. Wily and Dr. Weil the same person? Were they ever supposed to be?
Kenji Inafune: A large amount of time has passed between the classic series and Mega Man X. Dr. Wily had died in the interim but was brought back by the virus. Dr. Wily and Weil are not the same person. It is ironic though, because Dr. Wily created Zero, and Dr. Weil used Zero, but ultimately it was a copy of Zero's original body with a different mind that defeated him.
So I guess that means Sigma brought Dr. Wily back in the X series with his virus?
The only way that would work is if Wily was part of the virus, like as if he were orginaly trying to put himself in zero's body... for imortality maybe, and it all went wrong.
Post by: A New Challenger on September 26, 2009, 12:17:37 AM
That's actually just a rumor. Series creator Keiji Inafune said Zero would never do that. It's actually a pretty interesting read: http://www.capcomdigital.com/blog/2008/09/05/inafunesan_answers_your_questions (http://www.capcomdigital.com/blog/2008/09/05/inafunesan_answers_your_questions)
1) Did Zero really "kill" the family between the events of the Classic Mega Man and X series?
KI: No, Zero did not kill them. According to the way I created him, Zero is not such a person--it is not in his profile.
Inafune is kind of an bunghole with character ownership issues though.
He's also stated - more or less on record - that Rock Volnutt is his idea of the proper Megaman story, and that Capcom and the fans didn't really get it right. Rightfully so on our part - the Legends series story was ridiculous, and the games played like balls.
Also, in subsequent games, not created by him but still very much in canon, there are numerous flashbacks, endings and such suggesting a big cataclysm occurring after Zero's activation at the end of the original timeline and Zero standing around with bloodied hands.
Ignoring any speculation even, there's no question that Wily created Zero - so having normal Zero as the boss would still work.
Post by: Kojunho on September 26, 2009, 08:52:14 AM
Post by: Amlethus on September 26, 2009, 10:27:05 AM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on September 27, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
I disagree with the gameplay/story of Legends comment...
I know man, he picked the wrong house to bag on Legends. He has no idea how many of us here would squeal in delight when Legends 3 finally get announced.
Post by: Kojunho on September 27, 2009, 07:45:48 PM
You have no idea G.
Post by: Izanagi on September 27, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
:D
You have no idea G.
I third this, I love the Legends series to a fanboy-ish level, I think it was fresh and new, leaving from the same old, same old. It didn`t have the rep of MM or MMX so it could not be treated as say... MMX7/MMX8?
Post by: KudosForce on September 27, 2009, 09:19:20 PM
:D
You have no idea G.
Same here. It's not every day that you actually get to see a free-roaming 3-D Mega Man game coming out. :thumbsup:
If only Keiji Inafune would make up his mind before he dies... \-/o
Post by: A New Challenger on September 27, 2009, 11:38:59 PM
Also, wasn't the Legends series supposed to take place in canon just decades or possibly centuries after the events of X, what with Elysium and all? I know the link in X5 was intentional, so there's that.
Either way, not my cup of tea. Legends/Dash started up the notion that a wild deviation from Rockman was a good thing, which then snowballed into all of that EXE Starforce Delta Dragon ZX bulls***, and resulted in having to wait a decade and a half for a proper sequel in Rockman 9.
I realize it's a bias case of "They changed it, now it sucks!" on my part, but there's a whole chunk of Rockman fandom who would agree with me all the same.
Even still, I'll admit that Kobun pretty much rock my boxers. Kobun = the saving grace of Legends.
(http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module2/78837/deadrisingdance_qjpreviewth.jpg)
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on September 28, 2009, 12:23:19 PM
Inafune isn't very old, and he's been talking about wanting to push through a Legends game for awhile - think he wanted it on Wii.
Also, wasn't the Legends series supposed to take place in canon just decades or possibly centuries after the events of X, what with Elysium and all? I know the link in X5 was intentional, so there's that.
Either way, not my cup of tea. Legends/Dash started up the notion that a wild deviation from Rockman was a good thing, which then snowballed into all of that EXE Starforce Delta Dragon ZX bulls***, and resulted in having to wait a decade and a half for a proper sequel in Rockman 9.
I realize it's a bias case of "They changed it, now it sucks!" on my part, but there's a whole chunk of Rockman fandom who would agree with me all the same.
Even still, I'll admit that Kobun pretty much rock my boxers. Kobun = the saving grace of Legends.
(http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module2/78837/deadrisingdance_qjpreviewth.jpg)
Well to be fair, Legends was born out of necessity. Part of SONY's agreement to allow the X series to continue on the PS1 after X4 in 2D was that Capcom had to make a 3D Rockman/Megaman game as well. Part of SONY's then mission statement/model was that they did not want any 2D games, but they also realized the profit they would gain from having the X franchise on that console. In fact, the only reason why MM8 and MMX4 are even on the PS1 is because SEGA Saturn had them and they didn't want to lose that demographic which at the time was a big margin.
This is the same reason why X7 and X8 are in 3D. The jump to PS2 with the series required them to make the games in 3D, something that Capcom obviously wasn't ready for with X7, but totally got right with X8.
Post by: Gaijin on September 28, 2009, 03:23:36 PM
Post by: Rage on September 28, 2009, 03:25:21 PM
Legends is canon and it takes place about 100 or 200 years after the events of MegamanZX Advent. Something is supposed to happen to the world that causes massive destruction with only few living human survivors. Of course this also have to do with the biometals and the war between the Mega men and of course a few certain members of Legion and the Models which include Model W. I am just waiting for the next gap to be filled is all. The one that actually goes to right before legends starts which should be revealed shortly if they make another one. You can already see the signs and insignia of the reaverbots(the robots that roam around in Legends) in the Megaman ZX Advent so that series its almost at its climax then maybe we will see Megaman make a comeback to the big consoles like PS3/360 and maybe the Wii.^^(PM)^
Yeah can wait for the next installment/ series
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on September 29, 2009, 05:59:04 PM
Post by: KudosForce on September 29, 2009, 07:14:59 PM
....S***, you think maybe he's waiting for everything to sort of catch up before he makes another Legends?!
That would actually make a twisted sort of sense...
If this is true, then that means that Keiji Inafune may have been planning this all along! 8-}
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 29, 2009, 08:14:11 PM
Post by: Nilakantha on September 29, 2009, 10:11:37 PM
I don't think Zero should be in it like Kobun and Tron or even X since they are not Robot Master, but if Zero has an appearence, then he should be a hidden character or hidden boss after Dr. Wily. Heh, he could appear in the ending.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on September 30, 2009, 12:44:41 AM
These discussions are despressing...make it stop. (:|
I don't think Zero should be in it like Kobun and Tron or even X since they are not Robot Master, but if Zero has an appearence, then he should be a hidden character or hidden boss after Dr. Wily. Heh, he could appear in the ending.
If anything, like I did mention in another thread around here, outside classic characters would be hiddens that have no tie-in the the story's plot.