Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 08:34:38 AM
after play with capcom spiderman i noted some things i dont like in spiderman.
i dont like maximun spider and web ball for exemple.
so i decide make my version, so i had a lots of ideias for him, here is somes:
- web bar, no more infinity web to him.
- walk in wall and in top of screen.
- more web swings (air back dash, and up dash)
- some MUA moves.
- and some special to spider sense (i dont know if is possible code what i want)
- no symbiote or armos moves, just the good and old Neighborhood friend
im using to base kong' spiderman, because is opensource and i dont want to code basics again.
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and i want more ideias
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaQuoL2hpTs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaQuoL2hpTs#)
SPIDER SENSE TEST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmHxteTS8s# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmHxteTS8s#)
Preview 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-WulEvB9Hc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-WulEvB9Hc#)
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 15, 2009, 09:07:15 AM
hi all.Are u gonna fix up the combos that way it wont feel so slippery & fast? He does that for all his characters. I'm not saying his characters are bad, it just thats the only problem with his characters, the combos.
after play with capcom spiderman i noted some things i dont like in spiderman.
i dont like maximun spider and web ball for exemple.
so i decide make my version, so i had a lots of ideias for him, here is somes:
- web bar, no more infinity web to him.
- walk in wall and in top of screen.
- more web swings (air back dash, and up dash)
- some MUA moves.
- and some special to spider sense (i dont know if is possible code what i want)
- no symbiote or armos moves, just the good and old Neighborhood friend
im using to base kong' spiderman, because is opensource and i dont want to code basics again.
...
and i want more ideias
(ps: i know the rules about wip topic, i made a video but cant upload right now, maybe tonite or tomorrow at morning)
Post by: Spidermew on May 15, 2009, 09:08:15 AM
then you should have a hyper move that has him taking extra cartrages from his utility belt and putting them in his web shooters, thus refilling the bar. I think in the comics he can hold like 20 extras on his belt, and Ben when he was spiderman had extras on his shooters too, but ben also had developed differnt kinds of webbing, like impact webbing (which is what the web bomb is based off of)
In the video games there is a move that covers your fists in webbing to make somthing boxing glove sized so that your punches do more damage.
Other moves could be him grabbing the enemy with the webline and playing yoyo with them, kicking them each time he pulls them at himself.
Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 09:24:43 AM
In the video games there is a move that covers your fists in webbing to make somthing boxing glove sized so that your punches do more damage.boxe glove are in my plans, but i dont have a solid ideia yet.
Other moves could be him grabbing the enemy with the webline and playing yoyo with them, kicking them each time he pulls them at himself.
Are u gonna fix up the combos that way it wont feel so slippery & fast? He does that for all his characters. I'm not saying his characters are bad, it just thats the only problem with his characters, the combos.corse, already removed a lot of kong stuffs, i just want the basic parts.
Post by: Bowasiel on May 15, 2009, 09:49:11 AM
Post by: BLue BoMBeR on May 15, 2009, 10:00:56 AM
umm... like EOH wolvy... wear/unwear mask?
Post by: mastamasta on May 15, 2009, 10:09:37 AM
a lvl 3 hyper will all the different spidermen...i remember a episode on FOX when all the spidermen from different diemensions fought side by side.
i also remember seeing once..where his webballs did different things...he had one that electricuted you..one that paralyzed you etc.... i dont know how popluar that is but...its a thought.
"walk in wall and in top of screen." hahah yes.. and you also beat me to the punch..i was also going to say to peep MUA...he has alota moves in there.
thats all i can think of for now :)
Post by: iDramaboy on May 15, 2009, 10:25:33 AM
Post by: Acey on May 15, 2009, 10:30:45 AM
Post by: laspacho on May 15, 2009, 11:24:32 AM
In the Spiderman 2 movie he does the sling shot move forward. That might be cool to do into maybe a sling shot punch forward?
Maybe for a intro have him climb down the wall and take a picture of player 2, then jump down and the round starts.
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 15, 2009, 11:28:46 AM
Post by: volzzilla on May 15, 2009, 11:30:45 AM
Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 11:34:49 AM
In the Spiderman 2 movie he does the sling shot move forward. That might be cool to do into maybe a sling shot punch forward?this move will be in video, he use it in MUA too...
here the anim without web.
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4402/zxcy.gif)
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 15, 2009, 11:37:07 AM
Post by: iDramaboy on May 15, 2009, 11:38:25 AM
this move will be in video, he use it in MUA too...
here the anim without web.
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4402/zxcy.gif)
^^(PM)^
Post by: KudosForce on May 15, 2009, 11:38:38 AM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 15, 2009, 12:13:19 PM
Post by: Spidermew on May 15, 2009, 01:20:39 PM
this move will be in video, he use it in MUA too...
here the anim without web.
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4402/zxcy.gif)
That image got me excited in ways that should be illegal ;*))
Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 04:49:33 PM
Post by: moonmaster1 on May 15, 2009, 04:56:13 PM
so when you run out of webbing, can you refill similar to lobo's gun or is that all the webbing you get?
Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 05:00:51 PM
wow, you work quick seeing you just announced this. :oi dont know :)
so when you run out of webbing, can you refill similar to lobo's gun or is that all the webbing you get?
for now, i dont want the refill.
if u can refill web still infinity and web bar unless.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on May 15, 2009, 05:07:12 PM
i dont know :)
for now, i dont want the refill.
if u can refill web still infinity and web bar unless.
maybe make it cost two level to refill?
"Srsly", that's the sickest and slickest Spider-Man yet, so true to his style.
Post by: Playing Enemy on May 15, 2009, 05:10:47 PM
Post by: iDramaboy on May 15, 2009, 05:12:23 PM
Post by: Acey on May 15, 2009, 05:30:57 PM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on May 15, 2009, 05:31:21 PM
lookin foward to this spidey...hey can you pm me the coding for the web bar and how its set up to web moves? Im trying to do something similar to it...
I see what U want.
Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 05:36:37 PM
lookin foward to this spidey...hey can you pm me the coding for the web bar and how its set up to web moves? Im trying to do something similar to it...k, will do better, will make a topic in helper section, later.
Wow Z, you're moving fast on this, looks like "no more wips" really means, "just one more"yeap, i need a new sig. lol
:thumbsup:
Post by: iDramaboy on May 15, 2009, 06:58:56 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 15, 2009, 07:11:03 PM
The wall/ceiling crawl was cool . I like the way he can hang from his webbing .
The " machine gun " webbing is a direct copy from Seth's new Spiderman , but it's a cool move none the less
Post by: tremainekr on May 15, 2009, 07:47:18 PM
.what about a reflecter move that throws a opponents projectile back at them but the projectile that shhot out some clear type fireball :-??
.or a sense hyper thats started when he makes contact with his opponent(and you can use his spidey sense palletes)...then he disappears and reappears with hits like EOH spidey ironman suit hyper.
.a regular spidey sense move..he reverses the opponents hits with a new slam move
i have some of kongs spidey pallets i can pm you some ideas if i come up with some more.
Post by: iDramaboy on May 15, 2009, 07:53:39 PM
Post by: laspacho on May 15, 2009, 08:14:16 PM
I hope the EOH Spiderman will be able to climb walls courtesy of your edits. [-O<
Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 09:00:08 PM
The " machine gun " webbing is a direct copy from Seth's new Spiderman , but it's a cool move none the lesso.O#
is the first power in MUA, and he have it in other ps2 games too, and comics....
its one of the most popular use of web from spiderman.
Very cool. I love that sling shot hyper.is not a hyper, green globin made the hyper and the sling cancel it.
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in sling shot he stay in position while u hold the button, when u release web launch him.
same way to web bullets, he shot while u hold the button, or web bar empty.
I LIKE IT...for spidey sensei have one different ideia for spider sense, but dont know if is possible code, if not will try one of this sugestions.
Post by: moonmaster1 on May 15, 2009, 09:32:30 PM
o.O#don't forget the movies too!
is the first power in MUA, and he have it in other ps2 games too, and comics....
as for spider sense, if your idea doesn't work out it could be used as a counter or evade move. similar to how spider sense works in spiderman 2 for ps2.
this version needs to be in EoH, I have no problem with having two spidermen on the select screen. no reason JASONTODD's work should go to waste.
Post by: tremainekr on May 15, 2009, 09:50:20 PM
maybe for the spider sense you could make it a hyper and dont you know how on dragonball z Tenchaichi when you activate wild scene or afterimage? You could have his spider sense set up like that...
that was a good one.
or a hyper where like mugen superman..where he combos the opponet with a transparnet image of his self.while spidey stands there.that could replace his spider assault hyper(qcf+kk)
or like sub zero...have like a transparent spidey clone that stands there and if the opponent hits it spidey comes out the sky and hit you...and the see thru clone can have six different poses depending on what button is pressed..or even make it a teleportation move (showing how fast he moves...like how in the first spidey movie everything moved slow to him).
Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 11:00:56 PM
first, yeap my ideia works!!! is a like a evade move, but not automatic....
as for spider sense, if your idea doesn't work out it could be used as a counter or evade move. similar to how spider sense works in spiderman 2 for ps2.
ideia from spiderman movie 1, when u active spider sense, notinh happens, but when enemy make a basic atack everything will be in slow motion (stage too), and spiderman still with same speed, so should be easy to evade and attack... wait for a video to show that tomorrow.
Post by: bse24 on May 15, 2009, 11:03:10 PM
first, yeap my ideia works!!! is a like a evade move, but not automatic....Cant wait zvitor %%-
ideia from spiderman movie 1, when u active spider sense, notinh happens, but when enemy make a basic atack everything will be in slow motion (stage too), and spiderman still with same speed, so should be easy to evade and attack... wait for a video to show that tomorrow.
Post by: Jedah12 on May 15, 2009, 11:04:05 PM
Post by: ZVitor on May 15, 2009, 11:10:42 PM
This Spider-Man sounds really nice and the Spider Sense a lot too (bullet time :D). Goog Luck, Zvitor :thumbsup:yeap, tested right now agains projectiles, and it works like bullet time effect.
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1692/bullettime.gif)
note: look dog in slow motion too... will look for some effects to screen.
Post by: warecus on May 16, 2009, 05:07:50 AM
Post by: Grayskull on May 16, 2009, 06:53:38 AM
what will happen with the climb on the wall and on the ceiling if the enemy moves ,
will spidey will be standing on nothing ?
if Spidey do the climb on the wall and the enemy moves forward ,
the screen moves forward and don't you be faced to the Street Fighter's Vega thing
where he's not climbing anything ?
same thing with the climb on the ceiling if the enemy does a super jump ,
Spidey will be standing (reversed stance of course) on nothing ?
I'm OK with the climb Idea , it's close with the spirit of Spiderman ,
but I want to know if you guys though about that .
Post by: HornTitan on May 16, 2009, 08:06:51 AM
Just a though ,
what will happen with the climb on the wall and on the ceiling if the enemy moves ,
will spidey will be standing on nothing ?
if Spidey do the climb on the wall and the enemy moves forward ,
the screen moves forward and don't you be faced to the Street Fighter's Vega thing
where he's not climbing anything ?
same thing with the climb on the ceiling if the enemy does a super jump ,
Spidey will be standing (reversed stance of course) on nothing ?
I'm OK with the climb Idea , it's close with the spirit of Spiderman ,
but I want to know if you guys though about that .
In his new video the problem is cleverly resolved, if you watched it you'll notice that when the screen does move out of place he switches to an upside down spidy hang with web. Very clever!
Post by: ZVitor on May 16, 2009, 08:51:05 AM
hey z nice spidey maybe a new stance? well back to the sandyeap, will try somes later....
TEST of SPIDER SENSE
read video descrition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmHxteTS8s# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmHxteTS8s#)
Post by: JahmelM (JMills) on May 16, 2009, 09:03:18 AM
So the spider sense works as a hyper?
Thts cool :)
Post by: Spidermew on May 16, 2009, 11:24:51 AM
Post by: Bowasiel on May 16, 2009, 01:43:01 PM
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7476/stance.png)
Can u make the web longer in the swing? like en TAS it looks weird stick in the air (1:27), and is common in all spidermans I think
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on May 16, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
Post by: tremainekr on May 16, 2009, 01:55:27 PM
hyper...what about giving it to spidey..except spidey swings towards the screen and the
opponent hits the screen if spidey connects..also if you can control the direction that he
swings toward the screen..i think that it just one sprite thats zoomed in six times :-??
and just add a sound file saying something cool.
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 16, 2009, 01:58:48 PM
fixed
Post by: guy-zero32k4 on May 16, 2009, 01:59:13 PM
Sorry I'm late but here's the voices from Spider-man 1 and 2. I don't have 3 to work with.:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/luzb9j (http://www.sendspace.com/file/luzb9j)
If you use 'em please give me credit.
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 16, 2009, 02:03:33 PM
Post by: Bowasiel on May 16, 2009, 02:07:53 PM
Post by: felideo on May 16, 2009, 05:30:37 PM
Post by: HornTitan on May 17, 2009, 12:24:17 AM
An idea, try the web bomb move at the end, maybe you can rethink it in a way where you don't use a bomb but reuse the same tactic in webbing an object and swinging it at the opponent. At the very end!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyWq_3n0Mbw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyWq_3n0Mbw#)
Maybe instead use gravel, wood, pipe, rock can be flung? Also consider Seth's symbiote hyper move where he combos with web pulleys. Another idea I had was something similar to the batman wall smash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7jOIKrfvI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7jOIKrfvI#)
@6:00
Also try a wall cave in move, that's a interesting one? He can web both sides and pull them together?
Post by: Grayskull on May 17, 2009, 09:21:05 AM
This Spidey looks cool , I can't wait the release ,
truly hard to choose a Spidey , with all already available ,
but this one will surely rock ! :)
Post by: Vitamin on May 17, 2009, 09:51:58 PM
Also, A lunge move might be great as well. When your on the opposite side of the screen I rather lunge at my opponent with an attack than dash/run towards them. You could possible have him web foward making him zip foward then have him attack ( the attacks could vary with one of the six buttons).
Another great addition you could possible add to this character is a counter move. In spiderman web of shadows when you block your foes move in time spiderman blocks the move and knocks back the opponent in a web coccoon.
But either way this is great spiderman.
Post by: Playing Enemy on May 17, 2009, 10:30:22 PM
Post by: ZVitor on May 17, 2009, 10:56:38 PM
My gosh this character is going to be awesome. It was kind of hard to tell in the video, but was the spider sense making the Flash slow down or something like that?flash still moving fast, but he is in slow motion when made one atack, already added one effect to show that better, but in video u can see train moving in slow too when it happens.
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stance first attemp:
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/188/uhu.gif)
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 17, 2009, 10:58:57 PM
Post by: teeno312 on May 17, 2009, 11:18:45 PM
maybe you should try and make him be able to grab the com on the top of the screen their! :thumbsup:
Post by: Playing Enemy on May 17, 2009, 11:27:58 PM
Post by: ZVitor on May 17, 2009, 11:52:47 PM
attemp 2:
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3940/uhu3.gif)
better?
Post by: JahmelM (JMills) on May 18, 2009, 12:02:41 AM
lol... he is really drunk in that stance...Thats stance looks great :thumbsup:
attemp 2:
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/152/uhu2.gif)
better?
But his heads just seems to snap back... maybe u can fix tht up fast
Nd his right leg looks...it doesnt look right
Im sure u can fix these problems upp :) %%-
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 18, 2009, 12:04:39 AM
Post by: moonmaster1 on May 18, 2009, 12:06:29 AM
Your stance looks great, spidey kung-fu kicks to all haters. lol
seriously, keep up the awesome work!
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on May 18, 2009, 12:15:23 AM
Here is a stance idea i came up with for fun..
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn126/Sic-1/SpidermanStanceIdea.png)
Post by: ZVitor on May 18, 2009, 01:15:34 AM
...
thanks for the fast feedbacks, my last attemp (tonite)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2541/agorafoi.gif)
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 18, 2009, 01:18:32 AM
Post by: disisserr on May 18, 2009, 03:02:50 AM
ill be waiting for this spiderman :thumbsup:
Post by: warriorz on May 18, 2009, 04:24:40 AM
Post by: moonmaster1 on May 18, 2009, 04:33:10 AM
Much much better. I like this one, the movement reminds me of Eddy Guerrero. :P
^^(PM)^ I agree with batzarro. Lie , cheat and steal comes to mind even if thats not what spidey is about.
eddie and spidey are both crafty fellows though so its comes off as an intelligent stance.
Post by: Spidermew on May 18, 2009, 09:50:58 AM
thanks sic, but i cant use a erect pose, it not link with basic moves.
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thanks for the fast feedbacks, my last attemp (tonite)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2541/agorafoi.gif)
I think you should have both hands in the \m/_ formation instead of one of them a fist, other then that, The SpiderMew approves :thumbsup:
Post by: iDramaboy on May 18, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
thanks sic, but i cant use a erect pose, it not link with basic moves.
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thanks for the fast feedbacks, my last attemp (tonite)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2541/agorafoi.gif)
looks like spidey's looking for M.J
Post by: Grayskull on May 18, 2009, 10:00:08 AM
thanks Zvitor to lie when you say no more wips ! ;D
Post by: Bowasiel on May 18, 2009, 10:21:01 AM
Post by: ZVitor on May 18, 2009, 09:12:57 PM
Post by: That Mugen Guy on May 18, 2009, 09:31:50 PM
He looks so fun to play as :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Spidermew on May 18, 2009, 10:19:28 PM
Post by: Sabaki on May 19, 2009, 11:26:15 AM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 19, 2009, 03:05:45 PM
Post by: spiderbat on May 19, 2009, 04:01:06 PM
I love your work
to continue well
This will be the best spiderman
and the version that best represents
Post by: Astaroth on May 19, 2009, 04:06:11 PM
Perhaps for voices you should use voices from the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. I say this because it will establish him as a different character than the other MUGEN Spider-Men, and he'll get a lot more publicity this way. It's just that this is such a great-looking character with brilliant ideas, and I'd hate to see him get burried under Seth's updated Spidey and Sludge's, not to mention that the retro-style Erradicator's Spidey is still there to compete with.
That said, I think you should go all out on this one, and voices are no exception. :thumbsup:
Post by: Spidermew on May 19, 2009, 04:12:17 PM
Can I suggest something?
Perhaps for voices you should use voices from the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. I say this because it will establish him as a different character than the other MUGEN Spider-Men, and he'll get a lot more publicity this way. It's just that this is such a great-looking character with brilliant ideas, and I'd hate to see him get burried under Seth's updated Spidey and Sludge's, not to mention that the retro-style Erradicator's Spidey is still there to compete with.
That said, I think you should go all out on this one, and voices are no exception. :thumbsup:
Theres also the voices from the 90's cartoon or the new cartoon or even the ps1 games
Post by: tremainekr on May 19, 2009, 06:00:05 PM
from the EOH..y not use that hyper.. no need to go to waste...im talking about...the web
hyper where a helper comes and make a web fence and spidey can climb around on the
web for a period of time. even though mugen is a 2D type a game. the web wall hyper can
give EOH a 3D feeling.
.web spick fist..(code like iceman ice fist) if its gonna be alot of pallete and sprite work
forget about it.
.also something simple like storm and mr. fantastic...when they super jump or jump
regularly and you hold up the land on the ground slowly..so maybe spidey can fall slowley
using his web parachute(probably spelled wrong).
. the web fist and the webchute were always used in the early comic and i know how you
said you wanted to make a all around spidey.
Post by: Acey on May 19, 2009, 06:07:34 PM
i wanted to throw another crazy idea out there...since a certain character will be gone
from the EOH..y not use that hyper.. no need to go to waste...im talking about...the web
hyper where a helper comes and make a web fence and spidey can climb around on the
web for a period of time. even though mugen is a 2D type a game. the web wall hyper can
give EOH a 3D feeling.
.web spick fist..(code like iceman ice fist) if its gonna be alot of pallete and sprite work
forget about it.
.also something simple like storm and mr. fantastic...when they super jump or jump
regularly and you hold up the land on the ground slowly..so maybe spidey can fall slowley
using his web parachute(probably spelled wrong).
. the web fist and the webchute were always used in the early comic and i know how you
said you wanted to make a all around spidey.
So Spidey would make a Web like in the recent Iron Spider Hyper, then use it crawl around and attack the opponent, I like it!
Post by: Spidermew on May 19, 2009, 08:27:44 PM
Wrap the enemy'[s arms arround their torso and hang them in the air just off the ground and use them as a pratice punching bag for allot of kicks and puches then one final horse kick that knocks them free and across the screen bouncing.
Post by: Tenspeed on May 19, 2009, 10:11:54 PM
Post by: Izanagi on May 19, 2009, 10:14:05 PM
Post by: I_Burner on May 19, 2009, 10:35:22 PM
.also something simple like storm and mr. fantastic...when they super jump or jump
regularly and you hold up the land on the ground slowly..so maybe spidey can fall slowley
using his web parachute(probably spelled wrong).
Something like this might be pretty cool. I can see all kinds of crazy tactics that this could open up when it's combined with all of the abilities this Spidey already has!
After watching that vid vs. Rhino, this version of Spiderman really blows me away. All of that web-swinging and wall-crawling is exactly what's been missing from the others that are out there. This is exactly how Spiderman would fight, and I can tell that he's going to be a blast to play with!
Post by: That Mugen Guy on May 19, 2009, 10:37:08 PM
How about a "webline puching bag" hyper?
Wrap the enemy'[s arms arround their torso and hang them in the air just off the ground and use them as a pratice punching bag for allot of kicks and puches then one final horse kick that knocks them free and across the screen bouncing.
^^(PM)^
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: ZVitor on May 20, 2009, 05:42:21 AM
one day without enter in forum and when i return igot lots of ideias.
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i made a dodge move, but i cant decide the best command to that... P+K or D,D...
or another....
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1264/evade.gif)
How about a "webline puching bag" hyper?i want to try something like that.
he needs a webbing refill move or something IMO.o.O# check the video 3
1.the web hyper where a helper comes and make a web fence and spidey can climb around on the web.1.he dont need that, because already use walls to climb...
2.web spick fist
3.web parachute ... also something simple like storm and mr. fantastic
2. he will have that, i just dont decide if will make the easy way or the hard way to this move.
3. he can do that? if i add that i need a sugestionto this command too.
...
check my next hyper ideia.
will take some more time to syncron the anims and make some sprites...
if u dont have web, he made the maximun spider, if u have he jump to corner screen and place the camera in web, then u will see only the flash and the pictures from him hitting the enemy (inspired by alucard' batman).
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 20, 2009, 10:26:18 AM
Post by: DoktorAvidan on May 20, 2009, 10:45:40 AM
But this one is shaping up to do such a thing. ~X(
Post by: mastamasta on May 20, 2009, 10:54:43 AM
i made a dodge move, but i cant decide the best command to that... P+K or D,D...
i think P + K would be more suitable and much more accessible during a on going fight
.
he can do that? if i add that i need a sugestionto this command too.
i think he means after youve jumped or did a air combo, he would glide to the floor with a web parachute....kinda like the Twelve sprite you used for Mr.Fantastic
...
check my next hyper ideia.
will take some more time to syncron the anims and make some sprites...
if u dont have web, he made the maximun spider, if u have he jump to corner screen and place the camera in web, then u will see only the flash and the pictures from him hitting the enemy (inspired by alucard' batman).
WHAT.......thats really original man, and it is 100% something that spider man would do... :)
Post by: iDramaboy on May 20, 2009, 11:06:51 AM
Post by: Spawn on May 20, 2009, 11:59:31 AM
check my next hyper ideia.
will take some more time to syncron the anims and make some sprites...
if u dont have web, he made the maximun spider, if u have he jump to corner screen and place the camera in web, then u will see only the flash and the pictures from him hitting the enemy (inspired by alucard' batman).
Idea 200% :o
i want see THAT !!! x)
You think too add the usual movement where spiderman lock up ennemy with her web?
Post by: warecus on May 20, 2009, 02:12:30 PM
Post by: tremainekr on May 20, 2009, 02:19:31 PM
if u have he jump to corner screen and place the camera in web, then u will see only the flash and the pictures from him hitting the enemy (inspired by alucard' batman).
o man thats a good idea z :) :w00t: :o
Post by: Astaroth on May 20, 2009, 02:59:17 PM
Theres also the voices from the 90's cartoon or the new cartoon or even the ps1 games
Yes, but I personally think that the way the webbing and Spider-Sense work seem a lot more "Ultimate Spider-Man"-ish, and thus, an Ultimate voice would be a little bit more fitting. I haven't really heard the PS1 voices, but come to think of it, the 90's cartoon voice was pretty similar to USM, and would work, as you suggested. ^^(PM)^
Post by: Tyrant on May 20, 2009, 04:58:28 PM
Man, I'd hate to bump Seth's spidey off my roster.
But this one is shaping up to do such a thing. ~X(
Im not removing Seths. Seth's Spiderman is awesome, because he stays true to the movie version than the comic version. I don't like the idea of spiderman using cartridges to shoot webs. Comic spidey=you got to be a genius to make webs after getting the physical abilities/ Movie Spidey=you want to be bit by the spider to have all his abilities including webs.
Post by: iDramaboy on May 20, 2009, 05:23:50 PM
Im not removing Seths. Seth's Spiderman is awesome, because he stays true to the movie version than the comic version. I don't like the idea of spiderman using cartridges to shoot webs. Comic spidey=you got to be a genius to make webs after getting the physical abilities/ Movie Spidey=you want to be bit by the spider to have all his abilities including webs.
shutup...
Post by: tremainekr on May 20, 2009, 05:34:23 PM
Man, I'd hate to bump Seth's spidey off my roster.what man relax dont bump em. i got seths..sludge and acey spidey..and ima sit back and relax for z's spidey
But this one is shaping up to do such a thing. ~X(
awww come on Z even acey likes the spider fence hyper,he can crawl and attack like
vega,and he can crawl anywhere, give it a 3d feel but if you dont like it i understand.
spidey dodge moves are slick. maybe b,b, he bends back and d,d, he does a ducking
dodge like laying flat on his stomach(maybe u could use one crawl sprite).
keep up the good work =D>
Post by: Acey on May 20, 2009, 06:19:36 PM
Post by: DoktorAvidan on May 20, 2009, 08:07:13 PM
I think It looks..clutttered to me. I don't know.
With the right palettes I think it would easier differentiate them.
Same with the Hulks. I'll do the same for IMT's Captain America.
I have the MysticBlaze one and I'll just keep IMT's as Ultimate or WW2 Cap.
P.S. Spidey is one of my favourite characters (This is my room my mum painted it on there when i was like 12 or so lol)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Asoult/Spidey.png)
Post by: ZVitor on May 21, 2009, 09:42:16 AM
combo test
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8269/43814207.gif)
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 21, 2009, 10:03:59 AM
Post by: Sabaki on May 21, 2009, 10:56:37 AM
Post by: ZVitor on May 21, 2009, 11:18:28 AM
my objective are not make a perfect figther, is make him comics acurate.
...
for now he only have the capcom uppercut without web... and the wall atacks.
...
he still have all hypers, but will be different if he dont have web.
Post by: Izanagi on May 21, 2009, 11:36:37 AM
nopes, will create fail states...
my objective are not make a perfect figther, is make him comics acurate.
...
for now he only have the capcom uppercut without web... and the wall atacks.
...
he still have all hypers, but will be different if he dont have web.
Say I just got crazy idea... how about when Spidey`s health runs too low, the symbiote takes over him and you play as Symbiote Spidey with Infinite webbing, kinda like the revenge on SF4 :O*D
Post by: Sabaki on May 21, 2009, 11:45:23 AM
nopes, will create fail states...Sounds good to me :thumbsup:
my objective are not make a perfect figther, is make him comics acurate.
...
for now he only have the capcom uppercut without web... and the wall atacks.
...
he still have all hypers, but will be different if he dont have web.
Post by: ZVitor on May 21, 2009, 12:47:55 PM
Say I just got crazy idea... how about when Spidey`s health runs too low, the symbiote takes over him and you play as Symbiote Spidey with Infinite webbing, kinda like the revenge on SF4 :O*Du are right..... really crazy ideia.
...
combo test 2
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1662/97053895.gif)
Post by: Izanagi on May 21, 2009, 12:51:14 PM
u are right..... really crazy ideia.
...
combo test 2
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1662/97053895.gif)
lol Can`t wait for this Spidey ;*))
Post by: mugen215 on May 21, 2009, 01:09:39 PM
Post by: felideo on May 21, 2009, 05:01:02 PM
Post by: Gaijin on May 21, 2009, 05:06:32 PM
Post by: eckoeman on May 22, 2009, 03:27:07 AM
Post by: warriorz on May 22, 2009, 08:22:44 AM
i have 5 different version of spiderman, 3 of it with different thing but all same suit (classic):
1) amazing spiderman (release in day 17)
2) marvel spiderman (it gains the power of other marvel heroes when you choose different palette)
3) spiderman (with a very good hyper with the dark suit)
4) symbiote spiderman
5) spiderman 2099
zvitor now you make another version of spiderman with classic suit..
why don't you try to change his aspect? so you will make a completely different char not only another char with different moves..
you can try to use this version.. (very simple to edit from normal version):
(http://digilander.libero.it/giannilacorte/web-spider-man/imm-uomo_ragno_home.jpg)
Post by: Near on May 22, 2009, 08:28:12 AM
>:-(-|I HOPE YOU DEICED TO MAKE BLACK CAT AFTER THIS :w00t:
there is already a Black Cat, see this site: http://greenlanternhaljordan.blogspot.com/ (http://greenlanternhaljordan.blogspot.com/)
Post by: ZVitor on May 22, 2009, 10:14:30 AM
just a crazy ideas..is not so simple edit 500+ sprites....
i have 5 different version of spiderman, 3 of it with different thing but all same suit (classic):
1) amazing spiderman (release in day 17)
2) marvel spiderman (it gains the power of other marvel heroes when you choose different palette)
3) spiderman (with a very good hyper with the dark suit)
4) symbiote spiderman
5) spiderman 2099
zvitor now you make another version of spiderman with classic suit..
why don't you try to change his aspect? so you will make a completely different char not only another char with different moves..
you can try to use this version.. (very simple to edit from normal version):
(http://digilander.libero.it/giannilacorte/web-spider-man/imm-uomo_ragno_home.jpg)
..
and the only version i like from spiderman is the original...
i know i said my missin is "fill mugen holes"... but here i just want to make a spiderman like i want, like i remember him...
...
last combo test
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/188/uhu.gif)
Post by: Spawn on May 22, 2009, 10:19:12 AM
there is already a Black Cat, see this site: http://greenlanternhaljordan.blogspot.com/ (http://greenlanternhaljordan.blogspot.com/)i think it's a warehouse :S
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/188/uhu.gif)Combo de la muerte xD Nice spiderkick in his face !!!!
Post by: mugen215 on May 22, 2009, 10:54:19 AM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on May 22, 2009, 11:24:55 AM
Combo de la muerte
For reals man, for reals.
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on May 22, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
there is already a Black Cat, see this site: http://greenlanternhaljordan.blogspot.com/ (http://greenlanternhaljordan.blogspot.com/)
That is a warehouse! a big one at that too....
as for Black Cat? O' is re-doing her and added all new stuff to her... to see everything thats new on her head over to SGM.
And Z, like i said before bro! i'm looking forward to getting my hands on spiderman! good work bro
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 22, 2009, 12:31:42 PM
That is a warehouse! a big one at that too....
as for Black Cat? O' is re-doing her and added all new stuff to her... to see everything thats new on her head over to SGM.
And Z, like i said before bro! i'm looking forward to getting my hands on spiderman! good work bro
I'm not really looking at that place as a warehouse . He has all the links to the creators sites , here & scruffy . True warehousers don't give a d*mn where the charatcer originates from , they just post it .
BTW : The Dark Claw looks great in your sig .
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on May 22, 2009, 01:09:32 PM
BTW : The Dark Claw looks great in your sig .
yea... so how do you like His Finial Look??
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 22, 2009, 01:22:59 PM
yea... so how do you like His Finial Look??
He looks incredible . I think you need to PM me about this , though . We are Kind of invading Z's Spiderman WIP topic here o.O#
Post by: ZVitor on May 23, 2009, 11:04:26 AM
back to topic...
Hyper level 3:
Hyper level 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scLdnEwFJgo#)
Post by: Nilakantha on May 23, 2009, 11:22:11 AM
Post by: That Mugen Guy on May 23, 2009, 11:41:28 AM
yea, dont invade MY wip topic with offtopic talk....
back to topic...
Hyper level 3:
Hyper level 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scLdnEwFJgo#)
:DxDie :DxDie :DxDie I never seen spider-man do that before. He's Really loosing it.
Post by: ZVitor on May 23, 2009, 04:04:43 PM
but im using some placeholds sprites... will test, finish this sprites and release in one or two weeks.
here is command list:
==Moves==
*wall Crawler
~Hold F close to wall to stay in wall
~B,B in ground jump to wall
~Hold F in wall to jump out
~Kicks or Punchs while in wall to special atacks
~Hold U close to top screen to stay
~Hold U in top to jump out
~Hold D in top to go down with web (-2 web)
*Air Dashs
~B,B - U,U - F,F - in air to web movement (-2 web)
*Crounch Walk
~Hold F while in crounch
==Special==
*Dodge | ground/air | web = 0
~P + K
*Dive | air | web = 0
~D + hard kick
*Spider Uppercut | ground | web = 0
~D, F, DF + punch
*Web bullet | ground/air | web = -1 (Hold for more shots)
~D, DF, F + punch
*web swing | ground/air | web = -3
~D, DB, B + kick
*web throw | ground | web = -2
~D, DB, B + punch
*Sling shot | ground | web = -5 (Hold for more damage)
~D, DF, F + kick
*web pull | air | web = -2
~D, DF, F + kick
==Hyper==
*Spider Sense | ground | web = 0
~D, DB, B + 2 kicks
*Refill | ground | web = +100 (only 1/fight)
~D, DF, F + punch + kick
--Without Web--
*Maximun Spider | ground/air | web = 0
~D, DF, F + 2 punchs
*Spider Assault | ground | web = 0
~D, DB, B + 2 punchs
--with web--
*One for J.J. | ground | web = -5
~D, DF, F + 2 punchs
*Web Glove | ground | web = -5
~D, DB, B + 2 punchs
*Web Throw | ground/air | web = -10
~D, DF, F + 2 kicks
some last sugestion?
Post by: JDubbs on May 23, 2009, 04:40:15 PM
Post by: felideo on May 23, 2009, 07:33:21 PM
Post by: Berkay on May 23, 2009, 08:29:28 PM
i hope you do the same with the capcom venom, he needs really some alterations too!
looking forward for this character!
Post by: Jedah12 on May 23, 2009, 08:33:12 PM
The player can decide if he use the Hypers without Web Gauge or only in case of the Web missing?
Waiting Anxious! :thumbsup:
Post by: ZVitor on May 24, 2009, 10:57:56 AM
The player can decide if he use the Hypers without Web Gauge or only in case of the Web missing?nopes, player cant decide, because moves are similar to moves with web.
web glove is almost the same Spider Assault, but with the gloves.
.. maximun spider is different but have same ideia, jump around and hit enemy....
you've done lot of hard spriteworking jobs...capcom made the hard part ;)
Post by: Jedah12 on May 24, 2009, 11:03:49 AM
Like in the classic Spiderman, the Web finishes in the worst moments :D
Post by: Z999 on May 24, 2009, 11:05:38 AM
Waiting for him to take the third spiderman slot in my mugen ^^
Post by: ZVitor on May 25, 2009, 09:24:06 AM
missing list:
- finish 2 set of sprites
- AI
- align hit sparks
- sounds
- test
...
so probably release this weekend...
more sugestions to pallets?
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/634/pal.png)
Post by: Serious Cat on May 25, 2009, 01:03:27 PM
Of course, if I made suggestions for which palettes for you to add, I wouldn't have much left to do myself, now would I?
Post by: JDubbs on May 25, 2009, 01:43:28 PM
Post by: ZVitor on May 25, 2009, 02:13:06 PM
what made you do this char Z?when imt released spiderman in party, i tested him and got a lot of ideias to improve him, i posted wall walk ideia and everyone love that, but i got some resistence to remove symbiote...
so i started my own ;)
...
tomorrow, last video...
Post by: Spidermew on May 25, 2009, 02:29:21 PM
code done.
missing list:
- finish 2 set of sprites
- AI
- align hit sparks
- sounds
- test
...
so probably release this weekend...
more sugestions to pallets?
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/634/pal.png)
A negitive zone palette, black for the red area and white for the blue. The white and black on the eyes be inverted.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on May 25, 2009, 03:48:32 PM
when imt released spiderman in party, i tested him and got a lot of ideias to improve him, i posted wall walk ideia and everyone love that, but i got some resistence to remove symbiote...
so i started my own ;)
...
tomorrow, last video...
Dude, just cause Excursion thought the hyper was fine doesn't mean we HAD to keep it. Quite frankly if the Iron Spider Hyper had more frames to it, I think it should replace that Symboite hyper altogether.
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/634/pal.png)
^ That's the black suit he wore for a while after Civil War right?
Post by: tremainekr on May 25, 2009, 04:11:54 PM
some last sugestion?
the spider parachute where when u jump in the air and hold up u can fall slowly with webchute
is the web fist a melee combo .....or does his hit damage increase if so could is it possible it could be a regular move ....annndddd
awww (cough web cough fence cough cough) if im gettin on ur nerves Z just ignore :-j me.
Post by: ZVitor on May 25, 2009, 05:00:42 PM
the spider parachute where when u jump in the air and hold up u can fall slowly with webchuteparachute function is take more time in air, but he already have dash in all directions, so this move will not be useful.
is the web fist a melee combo .....or does his hit damage increase if so could is it possible it could be a regular move ....annndddd
..
web fist is just one punch.
Dude, just cause Excursion thought the hyper was fine doesn't mean we HAD to keep it. Quite frankly if the Iron Spider Hyper had more frames to it, I think it should replace that Symboite hyper altogether.is not only about symbiote, like i said in first post i dont like another things....
and is not a good way to offer help sayng "hey i can help with this char? i want to cut somethings...."
and making my version i dont need to make a votation everytime i want to change something.
^ That's the black suit he wore for a while after Civil War right?yeap, but without white chest detail, because he dont have smart pallets.
Post by: Superjoker on May 25, 2009, 09:08:17 PM
this is the coolest spidey so far
:)
Post by: maru7580 on May 25, 2009, 09:21:18 PM
Post by: ZVitor on May 26, 2009, 09:47:58 AM
...
last video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7KcZyfVT-Y# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7KcZyfVT-Y#)
Post by: Serious Cat on May 26, 2009, 10:07:25 AM
yeap, but without white chest detail, because he dont have smart pallets.
I don't want to think about creating Smart Palettes for Spidey, the web-design on the torso just makes thinking about smart palettes a grueling experience. and believe me, I did a lot of thinking on that since Spidey has had so many different costumes.
Post by: Sabaki on May 26, 2009, 01:40:31 PM
The only thing that caught my attention that looks incomplete is the Web punch hyper. Looks like it's missing impact for a single-hit hyper move, or needing extra hits or something.
Post by: ZVitor on May 26, 2009, 02:40:36 PM
Spiderman looks like he's shaping up very well. Like the new variants you did to some of the older moves as well, such as Crawler Assault and Web Swing. From the looks of things, this Spiderman will be great for aerial combat.i moded the web throw hyper to be done in air too... but i forget to show in video
The only thing that caught my attention that looks incomplete is the Web punch hyper. Looks like it's missing impact for a single-hit hyper move, or needing extra hits or something.
...
my first ideia to web punch hyper are same move from crawler assalt but with more damage....to make it more useful, im tryng add a launch to link with air combos.
...
"One for J.J" hyper have 16 pics, he choise 4 in random... if u see the it againts venom have different poses when he made that against electro.
Post by: Sabaki on May 26, 2009, 02:56:59 PM
i moded the web throw hyper to be done in air too... but i forget to show in videoFor the Web Punch, maybe when the jumping punch connects it could put the opponent in a dizzy custom state, which could trigger Spiderman to go into a special landing state, then he could launch the opponent for the rest of the hits for Web Punch? Could help if that's the direction you're going for, just gotta make sure that he can changestate quickly to next part for the move if it connects if you want it to feel fast like Web Crawler and not have him go straight to state 52.
...
my first ideia to web punch hyper are same move from crawler assalt but with more damage....to make it more useful, im tryng add a launch to link with air combos.
...
"One for J.J" hyper have 16 pics, he choise 4 in random... if u see the it againts venom have different poses when he made that against electro.
As for the One for J.J, I noticed that the snapshots were different at times when it connected on Carnage, Electro, and Venom. Real cool :)
Post by: ZVitor on May 26, 2009, 03:24:48 PM
For the Web Punch, maybe when the jumping punch connects it could put the opponent in a dizzy custom state, which could trigger Spiderman to go into a special landing state, then he could launch the opponent for the rest of the hits for Web Punch? Could help if that's the direction you're going for, just gotta make sure that he can changestate quickly to next part for the move if it connects if you want it to feel fast like Web Crawler and not have him go straight to state 52.i will try some like that and post a gif tonite to see what u tink...
Post by: HornTitan on May 26, 2009, 03:41:01 PM
Post by: ZVitor on May 26, 2009, 09:11:43 PM
i need a newspaper sprite...
if some1 are up to help try use this window.
the tittle can be "spiderman strike again" or some like that....
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3729/news2.png)
...
(if u dont saw yet, is for the "one for JJ" hyper in that video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7KcZyfVT-Y# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7KcZyfVT-Y#)
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 26, 2009, 11:26:04 PM
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7233/14933074.png)
Maybe you can just use what he did but stretch it out some and make variations with different headlines. :)
Post by: ZVitor on May 27, 2009, 12:16:58 AM
i will try some like that and post a gif tonite to see what u tink...(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9440/41687838.gif)
more useful now,can be linked with a air combo, but im still not sure about that... what u tink?
Maybe you can just use what he did but stretch it out some and make variations with different headlines. :)thanks
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on May 27, 2009, 12:31:29 AM
Post by: Sabaki on May 27, 2009, 12:43:18 AM
Keep up the goood work :thumbsup:
Post by: moonmaster1 on May 27, 2009, 12:46:39 AM
also with the J.J. hyper, add a animation of a snapshot or clicking camera lens to add more of an affect instead of flashing to white.
nitpicking aside, I eagerly await this release! ;D
Post by: ZVitor on May 27, 2009, 01:40:26 AM
also with the J.J. hyper, add a animation of a snapshot or clicking camera lens to add more of an affect instead of flashing to white..... will make somes attemps... thanks for open my eyes
The ability to followup this hyper isn't bad, but I feel this hyper needs more of a dramatic finish.yeap, u are right, a dramatic finish is better then one more link to air combo.... almost all specials already have that :)
...
will work on it.
Maybe you can just use what he did but stretch it out some and make variations with different headlines. :)lot better now... added this effect to last photo....
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7595/imagemwwu.png)
Post by: Izanagi on May 27, 2009, 01:50:36 AM
BTW: You didn`t like the Symbiote idea?
Post by: moonmaster1 on May 27, 2009, 01:55:53 AM
there really is no need for anything symbiote in this new spidey.
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 27, 2009, 04:32:39 AM
lot better now... added this effect to last photo....That looks awesome. :thumbsup:
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7595/imagemwwu.png)
Funny how he's giving the thumbs up and all seems well, when there's dead cops in the background. :D
Post by: Near on May 27, 2009, 07:59:42 AM
That looks awesome. :thumbsup:
Funny how he's giving the thumbs up and all seems well, when there's dead cops in the background. :D
LOL i' havent notice the cop XD
Post by: ZVitor on May 27, 2009, 10:01:34 AM
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7595/imagemwwu.png)upgrade:
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4538/imagemtoj.png)
thanks to aquelegordo
Post by: TomBewley on May 27, 2009, 10:09:54 AM
upgrade:
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4538/imagemtoj.png)
thanks to aquelegordo
Fantastic! Definitely looks more like a newspaper now. I look forward to this Spidey greatly, much better than Capcom's version!
Post by: Sabaki on May 27, 2009, 10:13:49 AM
upgrade:Upgrade's much better! This is gonna be classic :thumbsup:
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4538/imagemtoj.png)
thanks to aquelegordo
Post by: Serious Cat on May 27, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
Post by: Xx5DollarBillxX on May 28, 2009, 10:50:56 AM
Post by: ZVitor on May 28, 2009, 12:57:13 PM
More info here:
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/infinity.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?title=Spiderman_%28ZVitor%29 (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/infinity.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?title=Spiderman_%28ZVitor%29)
Post by: mastamasta on May 28, 2009, 01:17:33 PM
Post by: cero2k on May 31, 2009, 01:06:11 AM
Post by: Near on June 01, 2009, 03:44:57 PM
only two bug noticed.. in the Maximum Spider hyper, sometime Spidey during the combo attack miss the enemy... and in the photo sequence hyper in some stage the effect missing (like Power generator room of SvC Chaos)
Post by: Warrior on June 03, 2009, 12:12:47 AM
-For a winpose for certain villains (like Vulture?) he ties them up and puts a sign that says "Courtesy of your Friendly-Neighbourhood Spiderman", maybe zooming in on the sign
-Perhaps making a single-colour pallet so a symbiote pallete can be worked on (you know, like Bizzaro mode for Superman)
-Or maybe, because the Iron-Spiderman costume was so advanced, he can 'think' himself into a costume he likes (perhaps using the the green-grid effects)
Thanks for taking the time to read this,
Turbanator.
P.S.-Are all of Kong's works open-sourced? I was just wondering....
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 03, 2009, 12:25:44 AM
P.S.-Are all of Kong's works open-sourced? I was just wondering....
That is correct.
Since this is released, I believe this thread should be closed and all further discussion be carried on over there.