Post by: Excursion on March 06, 2008, 01:25:42 AM
Today's last release our EoH game end-boss Symbiote Onslaught. Symbiote Onslaught started as an idea, then a sprite edit, then a full blown Onslaught edit. Here is the original post at Warmachine Madness by Stever76:
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7533/originalpostxx9.png)
I quickly took interest in it (for obvious reasons) and when I first joined Infinity, I posted WIP pics about it in our very 1st forum. That prompted people to criticize and label Stever76 as a warehouser. Unbelievable how nearly 2 years later after that post he is finally seeing a public release. I am sure it is bitter sweet for Steve and it has been my pleasure to help complete him to Steve's liking. Most people have already played against/played with Symbiote Onlsaught within EoH, and some have not. I am posting some pics below for those people that haven't seen him in action. Enjoy :)
Characters>MvC>Symbiote Onslaught (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com)
He has 7 palettes total:
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1296/1originalew8.gif)(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9564/2carnageis5.gif)(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1838/3bluexy1.gif)(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/748/4greenfg4.gif)(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2032/5comicci8.gif)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8639/6blackwhiteqj3.gif)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3789/7varxj3.gif)
And here are some shots of him in action:
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1561/so1el6.png)(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3943/so2jf9.png)
(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8107/19579051ch5.png)(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5065/61067746qe9.png)
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2144/70006954za3.png)(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/5936/94868060pc8.png)
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3576/sovsgxn8.gif)(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3528/sojp2vl0.png)
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on March 06, 2008, 01:27:39 AM
Thank You Excursion! :'(
Post by: TGM on March 06, 2008, 01:28:17 AM
Post by: Excursion on March 06, 2008, 01:30:30 AM
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on March 06, 2008, 01:32:43 AM
I wasnt able to DL the EoH game so I waited patiently unlike some others 8=|
*now i just gotta get new contoller for mugen ~X(
Post by: aa250 on March 06, 2008, 01:45:10 AM
Post by: Dark Gemini ZX on March 06, 2008, 02:00:17 AM
Congrats for the release Excursion.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on March 06, 2008, 02:12:44 AM
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on March 06, 2008, 02:18:07 AM
Post by: Dark Gemini ZX on March 06, 2008, 02:24:05 AM
Question, does he have a 2nd form like the original Onslaught or just one form?He has a second form.
But you fight IT in the same round.
Post by: Spidercide on March 06, 2008, 02:40:15 AM
Thank you Excursion. The greatest fan made Marvel boss ever created hands down. :)
Post by: Gold_TSG on March 06, 2008, 02:41:12 AM
In my opinion, it feels too much like the original Onslaught. The very least you could do is give it better sounds. Maybe even find someone who could VA for a new voice?
Post by: .Batzarro. on March 06, 2008, 02:53:33 AM
Post by: adamken on March 06, 2008, 03:04:41 AM
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on March 06, 2008, 03:19:37 AM
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/bloodninja07/cloningproblem2.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/bloodninja07/SOcloningproblem.jpg)
Post by: aPoCaLyPsE on March 06, 2008, 03:45:24 AM
Feedback is appreciated :)
=D> =D> =D> Tips his hat in acknowledgement. =D> =D> =D>
Just wanted to official congratulate you and Stever76 both on such an achievement. Two years and "X" amount of long, hard, committed hours laters, a dream becomes a reality, not only to one man whom had an idea - Critisized and all, or to another man whom shared his visions and helped portray them to what lays before us today, but to a community as "Infinit" as Infinite, helpful, innovative, and as loyal as the sun and moon itself.
As for feedback, I'll try and get back to you when I have S.O set up (it's 1:00am PST now), tho i'm sure by then, you'll already have plenty of feedback from the rest of the house to play with.
In two words, "Simply Remarkable". Congrats Ex. One hell of a milestone... ^^(PM)^
-"aPoC."
Post by: Leighas on March 06, 2008, 04:33:47 AM
Post by: ExShadow on March 06, 2008, 07:01:08 AM
Post by: celobateira on March 06, 2008, 07:16:20 AM
He He He...Happy Birthday celobateira
Post by: SargentMugen on March 06, 2008, 07:43:39 AM
Post by: DMK on March 06, 2008, 08:00:42 AM
I found a cloning problem. A second S.O appeared when Shao Kahn hit him with his hammer.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/bloodninja07/cloningproblem2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/bloodninja07/SOcloningproblem.jpg
It may not be S. Onslaughts problem.
Shao's hammer thats puts characters into custom states and it may of interered with the way hes coded which I would guess Super armor etc.
Feedback later today when I get home.
Post by: Darkgargos on March 06, 2008, 08:11:12 AM
Post by: The Great Matsutzu on March 06, 2008, 08:33:07 AM
SO was incredible in EOH, and now everyone can enjoy him with in their own Mugen games.
Post by: Dez on March 06, 2008, 08:44:44 AM
Post by: mugenmillenium2134 on March 06, 2008, 08:51:31 AM
Post by: Fallen_Angel on March 06, 2008, 09:07:21 AM
*The AI after a little time becames very predictable...for example it sends the (I dont know the name) "magnetic balls"..and then makes the blast (the one is the sprites of the optic plast)
*The summoning special...last too long....and the char makes it a lot....also sometimes the hyperbackground stays a lot of time after the hyper has been finished
*When he makes the "venom shield"..the only thing that has blue clsn is the shield...I think that the char should also be covered
*the blue clsn doesn't cover completely the char
*The second form gets stocked making an attack that uses the "magnetic balls"...but they doesn't move they only appear and disappear...sometimes even if you hit him it stays making the same
*Sometimes the head on the second form dissapears
Great release :thumbsup:
Post by: laspacho on March 06, 2008, 09:09:53 AM
Post by: Acey on March 06, 2008, 09:15:25 AM
Post by: Captain Cold on March 06, 2008, 09:16:06 AM
The most anticipated char released , i have been waiting for this Extraordinary creation to be released.
Thank You Excursion! :'(
yeah you got that right blood :) good release thanks
Post by: grandma on March 06, 2008, 10:27:29 AM
Post by: orochi yamazaki on March 06, 2008, 10:45:26 AM
Thanks a lot for this,i really appreciate this char! :thumbsup:
Yo Oy! XD||
Post by: Random Regular on March 06, 2008, 11:08:46 AM
The most anticipated char released , i have been waiting for this Extraordinary creation to be released.
Thank You Excursion! :'(
yes i agree!
thank you excursion ^:)^ =D>
Post by: guanacopimp on March 06, 2008, 11:20:47 AM
Post by: BigBen1980 on March 06, 2008, 12:24:58 PM
Edit: I couldn't help but notice, though I'm sure I'm not the only one. That Galactus that was in the screenshots you posted looked more like an Apocalypse Sprite Edit. Is there another version of Galactus in the works? /:O
Post by: Draco on March 06, 2008, 01:02:14 PM
this is a fantastic character and a great boss. :thumbsup:
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on March 06, 2008, 01:12:25 PM
You know I've been waiting for this...
I am fully prepared for this...
Lets my slaughter begin...
Mu ha ha ha ha...
No seriously, this has been a long time coming. Two years worth of work is culminated into perhaps the coolest End-game boss EVER!!
I'll drop some feedback in an hour or so.
Post by: ralf_sparrow on March 06, 2008, 01:38:36 PM
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on March 06, 2008, 01:46:18 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on March 06, 2008, 01:51:10 PM
His clsn's are good... I just can't beat him. He's too much for me, always has been.
I agree with Fallen Angel about the predictable AI. Close to every time he does the tendrils attack, hypergrab comes right after it.
And he attacks so fast... Heh, I digress. I can't beat him, too bad for me.
A lot of people can probably give better feedback than I can about the character. Still, I can honestly say that I've been waiting awhile for this one. It's awesome that he's finally being given a public release outside of EoH. I'm sure you still plan on doing more with the character, but congradulations for the work you've put into this character, and thanks for the release!
Edit: I couldn't help but notice, though I'm sure I'm not the only one. That Galactus that was in the screenshots you posted looked more like an Apocalypse Sprite Edit. Is there another version of Galactus in the works? /:O
It's a private edit. I believe it was in the works for the Fantastic Four Project.
Post by: Weapon x program on March 06, 2008, 02:40:21 PM
Post by: bade3k3 on March 06, 2008, 02:58:39 PM
Post by: Yun0 on March 06, 2008, 03:03:53 PM
but absolutely a hell o a char!!! congratzzz >:( >:(
Post by: SPAN on March 06, 2008, 03:28:22 PM
Post by: ibleedgrenchese on March 06, 2008, 04:16:51 PM
^:)^
Post by: peepee45 on March 06, 2008, 05:20:25 PM
Causes screen to freeze if button mashing during super where he uses venom, symbiote snakes, and symbiote spiderman to fight for him.
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on March 06, 2008, 05:23:02 PM
Small bug.button mashing causes mugen to freeze period.
Causes screen to freeze if button mashing during super where he uses venom, symbiote snakes, and symbiote spiderman to fight for him.
Post by: Lord Vader on March 06, 2008, 05:32:19 PM
Post by: marvelmight on March 06, 2008, 06:17:48 PM
Post by: Draco on March 06, 2008, 06:57:34 PM
ok i tried him and hes a great character but he has a very strong ai. i cant defeat him :|
i tried him in watch mode against abyss and normal onslaught but they cant defeat him either, not even apocalypse and galactus together can. = /
so i think you should update his ai for another able to defeat, i mean you can defeat him with some very cheap characters but not with normal marvel vs capcom characters.
one more thing, i think the special when he goes to the background and the strikers appear deals a lot of damage and he do it a lot so it would be good to reduce that attack damage and amount.
thanks for a great character Excursion tho. :thumbsup:
Post by: Aura-Master on March 06, 2008, 07:44:41 PM
ONSLAUGHT!!!
OMG I its just like waiting for brawl!!!!
I am gonna have tons of fun fighting this boss character!!!
:o :o :o :o :o :o
sorry, I am just a fan that loves boss with hard AI
Post by: didierciclops on March 06, 2008, 08:26:06 PM
WOW... this is the best char that you have release in the forum with all the respect to all other chars (very good too)...
i was waiting for this moment for a long time
sorry... i dont speak english very good...
THANK YOU VERY MUCH EXCURSION
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on March 06, 2008, 08:38:48 PM
THANK YOU EXCURSION!!!!!!!!! XD|| XD|| XD||
Post by: Tiger-Boy on March 06, 2008, 09:01:27 PM
Pissing myself with excitement here!
I'll let you know the rest once I've tested him!
Still, thanks in advanced for the release.
Post by: JustSomeGuy on March 06, 2008, 09:16:56 PM
The current setup works great for one-round matches, but it seems kind of funny in multiround games.
Post by: Marius121 on March 06, 2008, 10:18:17 PM
Pallettes are GREAT!!! :thumbsup:
Post by: malisiousjoe on March 06, 2008, 11:49:27 PM
Adding the confirmation email between you and Stever was a great documentation I commend you.
Post by: mmzx on March 07, 2008, 12:12:45 AM
* beacuse you have to beat him in 1 round, soh i have to say i was waiting for something like the original onslaught
Anyway it still having the same bugs as the EoH version "the second form head just disapear sometimes when you hit it and when you damage him his left arm just pop up but at the same time there is another left arm at the bg, and i think he is a little cheap, so make his defense low because that way the battle becomes more balanced.
But stills a great char, awesome idea and it came close to be perfect (i think just making that editon for a 2 round char and fixing bus will make it perfect ok :thumbsup:)
Post by: Acey on March 07, 2008, 12:21:25 AM
Well, i have to say, this character is awesome, but, it's only awesome at MvC EoH game and here is the reason:
* beacuse you have to beat him in 1 round, soh i have to say i was waiting for something like the original onslaught
Anyway it still having the same bugs as the EoH version "the second form head just disapear sometimes when you hit it and when you damage him his left arm just pop up but at the same time there is another left arm at the bg, and i think he is a little cheap, so make his defense low because that way the battle becomes more balanced.
But stills a great char, awesome idea and it came close to be perfect (i think just making that editon for a 2 round char and fixing bus will make it perfect ok :thumbsup:)
My mugen is set to one round the whole way through. Then I just program it to fight against twice as many characters. After one round I'm ready to move on.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 07, 2008, 01:34:36 AM
Great release Excursion . I posted at the other forum about it .
If I happen to get him in random select with my mugen , he is invisible & he dies with one hit . Maybe it's just my screenpack , though ?
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/Harley_Joker-1.gif)
Post by: Yun0 on March 07, 2008, 04:01:29 AM
Well, i have to say, this character is awesome, but, it's only awesome at MvC EoH game and here is the reason:
* beacuse you have to beat him in 1 round, soh i have to say i was waiting for something like the original onslaught
Anyway it still having the same bugs as the EoH version "the second form head just disapear sometimes when you hit it and when you damage him his left arm just pop up but at the same time there is another left arm at the bg, and i think he is a little cheap, so make his defense low because that way the battle becomes more balanced.
But stills a great char, awesome idea and it came close to be perfect (i think just making that editon for a 2 round char and fixing bus will make it perfect ok :thumbsup:)
My mugen is set to one round the whole way through. Then I just program it to fight against twice as many characters. After one round I'm ready to move on.
i'm still thinking it can work better if it is programed for 2 rounds instead of one, like original onslaught
Post by: JustSomeGuy on March 07, 2008, 05:03:08 AM
As far as I can tell, the "tentacle" striker he has in place of the large Sentinel/Juggernaut cannot be injured or repelled. Standard Onslaught could spam strikers all day long, but it wasn't too bad because even the supposedly "unstoppable" Juggernaut he threw at you could be harmlessly knocked away if hit with enough force. But now given an invincible striker, his Symbiote incarnation essentially has the perfect attack. It's fast, it's unstoppable, it's spammable, it's large enough to clip characters that try to jump over/dodge it, it leaves little room for retaliation, and he doesn't even have to be remotely near you to pummel you with it.
Of course he is a boss, and bosses are supposed to be rather hard, but bosses are also supposed to be beatable once the player figures out how the thing ticks. And until that striker can be reliably countered, Symbiote Onslaught basically works via "Send out tentacles of death; laugh."
Post by: juelz aka wolfi on March 07, 2008, 07:38:25 AM
props 2 ya
Post by: Gabbard on March 07, 2008, 10:00:13 AM
Post by: kamekaze on March 07, 2008, 05:35:12 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 08, 2008, 02:17:48 AM
I noticed a thing playing with this char...Is too cool! Are you sure our mugens are ready for things like this? :) %%-
Yopu mean to tell me he beats up your other characters :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
That's not possible ?
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/Harley_Joker-1.gif)
Post by: Gabbard on March 08, 2008, 04:59:02 AM
:-" :-?? :o
:rules:
:O*D
Ok I can say it! ;D
Post by: alex87 on March 08, 2008, 10:16:09 AM
Post by: xAzerothx on March 08, 2008, 02:02:24 PM
Post by: Dark Gemini ZX on March 08, 2008, 02:37:38 PM
How do you fight form 2?Defeat his first form. ;D
Or do you mean ONLY his second form?
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on March 08, 2008, 06:07:07 PM
Post by: Bartman98 on March 08, 2008, 09:20:13 PM
Error message:
Error in symbioteonslaught2.cns
Character needs to be updated. See docs/incompt*.txt.
Error loading chars/symbioteonslaught/symbioteonslaught.def
Error loading p1
What Should I Do? Pls Tell [-O< [-O< :'( :(
Post by: Aura-Master on March 08, 2008, 09:29:32 PM
I Downloaded this character and it says
Error message:
Error in symbioteonslaught2.cns
Character needs to be updated. See docs/incompt*.txt.
Error loading chars/symbioteonslaught/symbioteonslaught.def
Error loading p1
What Should I Do? Pls Tell [-O< [-O< :'( :(
re-download
Post by: noc on March 11, 2008, 02:19:59 AM
the file is corrupt.....please upload them to another server......TwT
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aaaaaammmm.....iam new in this forum......
---EDIT---
Aaaaaaaaahhhh!!!
por fin alguien ke entiende el español, hola evilwolv (el chico de abajo de mi post).......pudiste jugar con el char bien??
Post by: evilwolv on March 11, 2008, 02:51:33 AM
nop, aun no, lo volvi a bajar para ver que sucede. luego te notifico que paso.
si me funciono, y esta super.
i was whaiting for this character too much thanks
Onslaught rules
Post by: catbat74 on March 13, 2008, 07:51:01 PM
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on March 13, 2008, 09:30:20 PM
this is awesome!! Who knows, mabye we will see a symbiote Apocolypse
:| I hope not <_<|...|
Post by: evilhomer27 on March 13, 2008, 09:38:35 PM
Post by: Cloudius on March 14, 2008, 02:34:16 PM
Post by: Alexziq on March 14, 2008, 02:56:21 PM
Very creative character, glad you took your time with him!
Post by: anthonygamer on March 14, 2008, 08:25:04 PM
Bug. You can defeat both forms by pressing the low punch button over and over again. That needs to be fixed.
Post by: Cloudius on March 15, 2008, 05:19:48 AM
Post by: Zed365 on March 26, 2008, 10:42:33 PM
Post by: FlameDaHedgehog on March 30, 2008, 10:40:27 PM
Post by: aa250 on March 30, 2008, 11:39:57 PM
Download link doesn't seem to work :-??
get it at the main site
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/
Post by: Excursion on March 31, 2008, 02:50:35 PM
Post by: FlameDaHedgehog on March 31, 2008, 06:40:20 PM
Post by: Cloudius on April 01, 2008, 02:53:43 PM
Post by: Excursion on April 01, 2008, 04:50:12 PM
v1.3 still has the corner bug i posted earlier. Unless what i posted earlier was v1.3, ignore this.
Yea, it was. I have not updated him yet. :)
Post by: Shmoker24 on April 06, 2008, 04:56:13 AM
Post by: Zerok_116 on April 06, 2008, 08:50:23 PM
Post by: Spidercide on April 20, 2008, 08:29:30 PM
1. The hitsparks. I think it would be best to change the PSX MVC1 sparks to Arcade/Saturn/Dreamcast MvC1/MSHvSF style hitsparks. Because when Onslaught attacks I think the impact of the hit should be seem as powerful as possible and those Arcade sparks really display that incredible comic hitting animation that the PSX sparks are lacking.
2. Spider-Man & Venom super. Well, just Venom actually. Some people may think it's no biggie including myself but just thought I should bring this to your attention as I want this character to be as on point as possible.
It is rumored that in the comics, Venom is scared to flip. That is why whenever you read Venom books or watch him in the cartoon you will never see him do a flip or somersault, not once. I haven't seen him do it in the cartoons or comics before. When Symbiote Onslaught calls upon him for attack he comes in with a somersault like move, I think it would be better to make him come out with a different type of aerial attack. (maybe try his web swing and make him do a multitude of his aerial rave attacks afterwards?) These are just suggestions.
3. Second forms hit frame. For the 2nd form I think his stun animation frames could use a bit more work. When he gets hit his head should turn back in agony and he should vibrate, letting the players know they delivered damage to Symbiote Onslaught.
I think these 3 things can definitely improve Symbiote Onslaught as a boss character.
Other than that I have no further feedback to give. Everything else is perfect. Symbiote Onslaught is a beast! :o :thumbsup:
Post by: LeechKing on December 14, 2008, 10:20:52 AM
Post by: Doctor Crow on December 14, 2008, 10:49:18 AM
Post by: SargentMugen on December 14, 2008, 12:59:03 PM
great character... like the way he shifts to his 2nd form... it has that MvC feel to it, but the same time having a different feel because of the symbiote, :thumbsup: I like his moves!! great!!usually i'd make fun of someone for bumping a dead topic (cause i'm hypocritical like dat), but for bumping this legend of a topic...... ^:)^