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Title: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 18, 2017, 04:20:27 AM
Hey guys!!  :)

What's your thoughts on this?  :-??

(http://image.ibb.co/eLPNsk/magus.png)

Personally I dont mind staying with the newly released Warmachine by Logansam and Zvitor's Ironman since both play really good!! :)

This feels like a threat to me so I will pass!! What u guys think of the method "like/subscribe and u will get the gift"?  :-??
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: Firelord Kursan on June 18, 2017, 05:04:56 AM
I swear to lord... I think it seems to be a shady practice that he's trying to do, and unfortunately, this might be the generation that we're entering now.
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: Blagoy on June 18, 2017, 05:56:28 AM
I do not mind I have already subscribed on youtube and liked fb  .V.!
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: shags2dope on June 18, 2017, 09:15:18 AM
Honestly i question whats wrong with some of you guys. How is this a threat or shady in the slightest. He isnt asking for money or anything but for you to like s post on facebook and subscribe to his YouTube. Neither hurt you whatsoever and if enough ppl do it. A character is released. Where is the problem?
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: verz36 on June 18, 2017, 09:26:03 AM
 :O*D
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: metamutant on June 18, 2017, 09:27:54 AM
I think this is a response to warehouses. Magus wants everyone to know and download from his sites, and not some other places.  It makes a lot of sense, he does the work so he should get the support/benefits and not other sites.
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: logansam on June 18, 2017, 10:23:21 AM
I think this is a response to warehouses. Magus wants everyone to know and download from his sites, and not some other places.  It makes a lot of sense, he does the work so he should get the support/benefits and not other sites.

Is the true, some places like MA is making money with people works, of course is a hobby but not all of the people think that(MA forum)
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 18, 2017, 10:26:00 AM
As a fan, liking/subscribing to get the download is easy but that achievable goal he wants may take a while even though it's fairly simple.

personally, I think if they're ready for release he should just release them and let the likes/subscribers come in organically  :-??
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: shags2dope on June 18, 2017, 10:47:37 AM
As a fan, liking/subscribing to get the download is easy but that achievable goal he wants may take a while even though it's fairly simple.

personally, I think if they're ready for release he should just release them and let the likes/subscribers come in organically  :-??

I agree with that sentiment honestly.

But atleast he is giving you actual hope for release. And incentive as fans /supporters to reach. There are some creators (no names) who just sit on characters and offer you no chance, hope or idea if or when they will be released. Its just a wip from 4 years ago that is "coming soon".

Just like that dead wip thread that was started. Look at how many things we will never see for whatever reason.  I say if you (not talking to anyone specifically to clarify) really want it. You will make it happen

I know alot of ppl are up in a tizzy of "is this what mugen is coming to, making us pay blah blah blah" but for those ppl i ask is the fan support the same as it used to be when everything was free and flowing on a constant basis??? We use to respect the crap out of our creators and give them legit feedback and help them make their stuff better. Now we just get lurkers who download and hate in discord servers and on youtube videos about how characters are crap

What kinda incentive is that for a creator who puts all their free time into a creation??

PS not aimed at anyone just food for thought
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 18, 2017, 11:57:54 AM
Valid points guys!! I just wanted to hear your thoughts and opinion (as a constructive discussion) and not to start anything!!  :)

We can wait and see then!! :)

Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 18, 2017, 04:39:55 PM
I agree with that sentiment honestly.

But atleast he is giving you actual hope for release. And incentive as fans /supporters to reach. There are some creators (no names) who just sit on characters and offer you no chance, hope or idea if or when they will be released. Its just a wip from 4 years ago that is "coming soon".

Just like that dead wip thread that was started. Look at how many things we will never see for whatever reason.  I say if you (not talking to anyone specifically to clarify) really want it. You will make it happen

I know alot of ppl are up in a tizzy of "is this what mugen is coming to, making us pay blah blah blah" but for those ppl i ask is the fan support the same as it used to be when everything was free and flowing on a constant basis??? We use to respect the crap out of our creators and give them legit feedback and help them make their stuff better. Now we just get lurkers who download and hate in discord servers and on youtube videos about how characters are crap

What kinda incentive is that for a creator who puts all their free time into a creation??

PS not aimed at anyone just food for thought

Yeah it's amazing the amount of playable chars that exist in beta or final stage that won't be released because said author went ghost and the ppl that have it are still waiting for permission or various other unexplained reasons

I liked and subscribed to Magus though because I've been waiting years for his War Machine
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: luciangarude on June 18, 2017, 08:09:13 PM
I was already signed up for both youtube and facebook before.
I was coming here to post the same thing  :D asking for the people of the forum to subscribe and like .
I've been wondering about the warmachine Logansam warmachine, but for me it looks like the warmachine from Marvel Cinematic, I prefer the classic version I really want to have both of them in my mugen.
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 18, 2017, 09:43:24 PM
I still think him/them releasing content more sporadically will organically bring ppl back to the Scruffy community kinda how MMV has ppl because they keep releasing/teasing stuff

A lot of the people who will click like/subscribe are just gonna lurk until they catch War Machine was released then they'll go their way
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dev. on June 18, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
I still think him/them releasing content more sporadically will organically bring ppl back to the Scruffy community kinda how MMV has ppl because they keep releasing/teasing stuff

A lot of the people who will click like/subscribe are just gonna lurk until they catch War Machine was released then they'll go their way
I agree with you, but only one observation: MMV releases quantity, not quality. I don't see how that will bring more people. I for one prefer quality.
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 18, 2017, 11:29:32 PM
I agree with you, but only one observation: MMV releases quantity, not quality. I don't see how that will bring more people. I for one prefer quality.

Yeah they're more quantity than quality

Just saying more consistent releases is why them, MFG and IMT still have their communities. If content isn't being released, at least it's being teased.

Scruffy lost its community because most the ppl in charge basically either went ghost or they focused on pocket chars.

If he puts out War Machine and his updated Iron Man.. then more teasers of his Grundy... plus some of those unreleased Scruffy stages sporadically I'm pretty sure traffic will pick up quicker
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: verz36 on June 19, 2017, 06:12:29 AM
Yeah they're more quantity than quality

Just saying more consistent releases is why them, MFG and IMT still have their communities. If content isn't being released, at least it's being teased.

Scruffy lost its community because most the ppl in charge basically either went ghost or they focused on pocket chars.

If he puts out War Machine and his updated Iron Man.. then more teasers of his Grundy... plus some of those unreleased Scruffy stages sporadically I'm pretty sure traffic will pick up quicker


 :DxDie    that's not the reasons!!!!!
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 19, 2017, 06:38:40 AM
Well a good way to bring ppl back to the Scruffy community is to establish the old Scruffy forum or a new one!!

The current appearance of the site is like a blog!

A forum will be good so that people could interact, show their works and releases and as a result attract more members!
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 19, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
I swear to lord... I think it seems to be a shady practice that he's trying to do, and unfortunately, this might be the generation that we're entering now.
Coming from where it comes, it doesn't surprises me AT ALL.

Honestly i question whats wrong with some of you guys. How is this a threat or shady in the slightest. He isnt asking for money or anything but for you to like s post on facebook and subscribe to his YouTube. Neither hurt you whatsoever and if enough ppl do it. A character is released. Where is the problem?
I don't want to be rude, but you have no idea of what you are talking about. SD and Magus have a very WELL KNOW long history...and a very bad one. Its sad to see some new names joining there, because they will earn the same bad reputation.

Magus is just using content from other people to promote his site, something he already did on the past. He even earned money with the content from other person, without their consent, like Loganir. But if you try to say something, Magus already have a WALL OF TEXT done to blame you, attack you, your family, bla bla bla. Believe me, I know I am talking about...

Is the true, some places like MA is making money with people works, of course is a hobby but not all of the people think that(MA forum)

Like as Magus haven't made it before...

Its just a desesperation act from a semi-defunct community. He is just trying to "erase" the bad reputation after many people left it, but I doubt he will succeed.
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 19, 2017, 09:03:55 AM

 :DxDie    that's not the reasons!!!!!

You're more in the know than I am since you were part of that team so what's your opinion?

I loved Scruffy a few years ago... most of my Mugen DC roster came from them. I used to go there everyday just to read blog posts and yearly for the Scruffyversaries. I stopped frequencing the site once it basically became dead in regards to Mugen content.

I didn't see any activity on the forums so there was nothing for me to talk to ppl about on there either and most of the creators disappeared. lognair and Buyog regularly updated their blogs but obviously real life stopped them from doing that like 2 years ago

I saw you were still in action on here and there's been a wucash sighting recently and of course Magus is now back somewhat so I mean, from my POV that's my opinion on why Scruffy doesn't have the traffic it used to have

I'd love to hear what you think the reason is

I'm also aware of Magus wanting money for some chars a few years ago
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 19, 2017, 09:40:43 AM
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lognair and Buyog regularly updated their blogs but obviously real life stopped them from doing that like 2 years ago
In Loganir's case, this is not the reason AT ALL. The first strike were done when he discovered about the money issue. The second one were done with MMV's Golden Hero AX.

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I'd love to hear what you think the reason is
Pretty self-explanatory.
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 19, 2017, 10:54:43 AM
In Loganir's case, this is not the reason AT ALL. The first strike were done when he discovered about the money issue. The second one were done with MMV's Golden Hero AX.
Pretty self-explanatory.

Oh I didn't know about that. I remembered Loganir was working on Thor and Wonder Woman updates then said something about someone stealing his work then he disappeared. I didn't know specifically what he was talking about. I know Buyog simply said he doesn't have the time and I see wucash has resurfaced and verz is still doing his thing.

I can't remember any other Scruffy members besides McCready. All I saw was pocket chars on Scruffy after everyone seemed to have went their seperate way that's another reason I stopped going because I don't use those

Nonetheless, I was giving my opinion on why me and a few others stopped going to Scruffy, not everyone in general. I look at verz, lognair, buyog, etc totally different from Magus. Idk it's somethin about him that just rubs me the wrong way but I'm a fan of his work.

theres been a few occasions where I politely commented or something in the past and he just always responded like a jerk

I stand corrected on why I initially thought Scruffy lost traffic
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 19, 2017, 11:14:37 AM
 >:-(-| Man I remember that Green Lantern project that had an awesome sp. Who were working on that project?? I really cant remember!! Maybe one guy I remember might be Arma but maybe I am wrong.

Also new msg with more teasers!!

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Rebuilding scruffydragon community is not easy, so the release date is on you guys, and it will depend of my number of supcriptions and likes (followers) on facebook, I aim to increase at minimum of 750 here in youtube and a 1000 on facebook, make it happen on both and warmachine and ironman will be yours.


Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 19, 2017, 11:31:43 AM
>:-(-| Man I remember that Green Lantern project that had an awesome sp. Who were working on that project?? I really cant remember!! Maybe one guy I remember might be Arma but maybe I am wrong.

Also new msg with more teasers!!



Yeah that's the vid I was referencing.. I see he has Grundy

I don't remember a GL project
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: navs41 on June 19, 2017, 08:12:07 PM
The saddest part in the whole thing is the I, me, my/mine in the posts. Nothing that depicts a team effort.
Using other people's work for profit is just the final nail in the coffin.

I don't remember a GL project

Ha! Call me Cranky Kong! I remember that one!
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 19, 2017, 08:16:55 PM
The saddest part in the whole thing is the I, me, my/mine in the posts. Nothing that depicts a team effort.
Using other people's work for profit is just the final nail in the coffin.

Ha! Call me Cranky Kong! I remember that one!

I'll have to google it.. I just remember Lethal Syndicate and DC vs Marvel lol
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: verz36 on June 19, 2017, 10:08:20 PM
You're more in the know than I am since you were part of that team so what's your opinion?

I loved Scruffy a few years ago... most of my Mugen DC roster came from them. I used to go there everyday just to read blog posts and yearly for the Scruffyversaries. I stopped frequencing the site once it basically became dead in regards to Mugen content.

I didn't see any activity on the forums so there was nothing for me to talk to ppl about on there either and most of the creators disappeared. lognair and Buyog regularly updated their blogs but obviously real life stopped them from doing that like 2 years ago

I saw you were still in action on here and there's been a wucash sighting recently and of course Magus is now back somewhat so I mean, from my POV that's my opinion on why Scruffy doesn't have the traffic it used to have

I'd love to hear what you think the reason is

I'm also aware of Magus wanting money for some chars a few years ago

 ok, if 400 people join my youtube channel and 1,500 hit like in my facebook, then ill let you know all the details and all that really happened. :cool

JK!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 19, 2017, 10:26:02 PM
ok, if 400 people join my youtube channel and 1,500 hit like in my facebook, then ill let you know all the details and all that really happened. :cool

JK!!!!!!!

Lol! I'm first to subscribe!!!
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: verz36 on June 19, 2017, 10:41:51 PM
Lol! I'm first to subscribe!!!

 cool!!! now we down to 399 and 1,499..... :)

 yes I was scruffy long ago but I changed my mind after few incidents. i saw things that didn't sit well with me.  the real story is pretty long and there are too many things involved. Oilu said some but from loganir, he took his whole blog for the $ake of more traffic. but there was a lot more. I don't want to open old wounds but if enough of you want to hear it, the I got a story to tell. like slick rick childrens story!!!

 edit,
  I don't see a problem in asking people to subscribe to your channel or hit likes on your page but doing it in exchange for releasing a character, I think that's not good. but everybody is entitled to their own opinions.. most creators make characters and release them to the public for free and they ask nothing in return. the whole patron page thing for donations is different I think, its up to the people if they want to give donations.
lets see how many of you are really dying to grab that warmachine and lets see how far you all go to get it. lol!!!!


 @logansam, good luck with that scruffy memebership!!! 

Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: shags2dope on June 20, 2017, 12:08:33 AM
Coming from where it comes, it doesn't surprises me AT ALL.
I don't want to be rude, but you have no idea of what you are talking about. SD and Magus have a very WELL KNOW long history...and a very bad one. Its sad to see some new names joining there, because they will earn the same bad reputation.

Magus is just using content from other people to promote his site, something he already did on the past. He even earned money with the content from other person, without their consent, like Loganir. But if you try to say something, Magus already have a WALL OF TEXT done to blame you, attack you, your family, bla bla bla. Believe me, I know I am talking about...

Like as Magus haven't made it before...

Its just a desesperation act from a semi-defunct community. He is just trying to "erase" the bad reputation after many people left it, but I doubt he will succeed.
 

None of what you said there proves i dont know what im talking about. I respect that you have history with this man and your experiences in the past are deep rooted but what i said is still fact.  Drumming up traffic for your website is not shady nor a threat.
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 20, 2017, 12:13:56 AM
cool!!! now we down to 399 and 1,499..... :)

 yes I was scruffy long ago but I changed my mind after few incidents. i saw things that didn't sit well with me.  the real story is pretty long and there are too many things involved. Oilu said some but from loganir, he took his whole blog for the $ake of more traffic. but there was a lot more. I don't want to open old wounds but if enough of you want to hear it, the I got a story to tell. like slick rick childrens story!!!

 edit,
  I don't see a problem in asking people to subscribe to your channel or hit likes on your page but doing it in exchange for releasing a character, I think that's not good. but everybody is entitled to their own opinions.. most creators make characters and release them to the public for free and they ask nothing in return. the whole patron page thing for donations is different I think, its up to the people if they want to give donations.
lets see how many of you are really dying to grab that warmachine and lets see how far you all go to get it. lol!!!!


 @logansam, good luck with that scruffy memebership!!!

Yeah I don't even see him hitting the quota he wants to hit

I feel like the ppl who really want his War Machine are either already aware or already subscribed, etc that's why I think he should just put it out if it's ready

Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: navs41 on June 20, 2017, 11:47:05 AM
I'll have to google it.. I just remember Lethal Syndicate and DC vs Marvel lol

http://z6.invisionfree.com/GL_mugen_project/index.php
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 20, 2017, 12:15:16 PM
Wow Sei was part of that project??  :o

I also see Buyog's Hal which it was expected!! :)

I have to sign in there I guess in order to see the rest of the wips! :)
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 20, 2017, 02:05:24 PM
None of what you said there proves i dont know what im talking about. I respect that you have history with this man and your experiences in the past are deep rooted but what i said is still fact.  Drumming up traffic for your website is not shady nor a threat.

That is ok to me ;)
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 20, 2017, 03:10:21 PM
Wow Sei was part of that project??  :o

I also see Buyog's Hal which it was expected!! :)

I have to sign in there I guess in order to see the rest of the wips! :)

I see a Kyle Rayner.. this is news to me I wonder if that got released
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 20, 2017, 03:51:19 PM
Apparently not!! John and Guy look similar to Zvitor's and Warecus ones!! The girls are Jade and the blonde girl is??
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: warecus on June 20, 2017, 08:28:36 PM
if I had the time I would love to give guy the navs update that was played around with on crusadercast
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: navs41 on June 20, 2017, 09:36:28 PM
Completely off-topic.

Apparently not!! John and Guy look similar to Zvitor's and Warecus ones!! The girls are Jade and the blonde girl is??

Guy is an update of Slotman's char, a mix of Charlie Nash and Cap. The GL project char was supposed to be given more details on belt and different attacks, but I do not know where progress halted.

(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/thezonzy/GreenLanternGuyGardner.gif)

The same mix could be worked for Ray.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa104/navsmed41/ray_zps24977cab.gif)

That's definitely not Wil.li.am and Zvitor's GL. That's McCready's IIRC.
The intended stance for that GL can be found here: http://buyogslair.blogspot.com.br/2009/08/hal-as-yellow-lantern.html

There are not many sprites of him laying around, most of it was shown in Buyog's blog. He was supposed to face War Machine in the second phase of the SD project.

Blonde girl is Arisia Rrab, wip by Angelic Charon.

I am pretty sure Kyle is Larramones'. Base was Cody's head + Cyke. Pyche and ANC had an Ion wip back then I guess... Verz, can you confirm?

if I had the time I would love to give guy the navs update that was played around with on crusadercast

This one?

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa104/navsmed41/gardnerstance_zpsivljg9kv.gif)

It doesn't really need that much work. Start with a gethit frankensprite if you want my help getting the style right.

...

Time to get back on topic? ;)
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: mon-el on June 20, 2017, 10:04:08 PM
Apparently not!! John and Guy look similar to Zvitor's and Warecus ones!! The girls are Jade and the blonde girl is??

Her name is Arisia:
(http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Arisia-DC-Comics-Green-Lantern.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arisia_Rrab

Back to the topic, I don't think I'd mind this as much if the requirements were minimal, especially for well known characters who's sprites are already available, with minor improvements to sprites and gameplay.

If it were for a character that hasn't been made, then it would be a different story, especially if it's a popular character or important to a story line.



Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: verz36 on June 20, 2017, 10:09:58 PM
Completely off-topic.

Guy is an update of Slotman's char, a mix of Charlie Nash and Cap. The GL project char was supposed to be given more details on belt and different attacks, but I do not know where progress halted.

(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/thezonzy/GreenLanternGuyGardner.gif)

The same mix could be worked for Ray.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa104/navsmed41/ray_zps24977cab.gif)

That's definitely not Wil.li.am and Zvitor's GL. That's McCready's IIRC.
The intended stance for that GL can be found here: http://buyogslair.blogspot.com.br/2009/08/hal-as-yellow-lantern.html

There are not many sprites of him laying around, most of it was shown in Buyog's blog. He was supposed to face War Machine in the second phase of the SD project.

Blonde girl is Arisia Rrab, wip by Angelic Charon.

I am pretty sure Kyle is Larramones'. Base was Cody's head + Cyke. Pyche and ANC had an Ion wip back then I guess... Verz, can you confirm?

This one?

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa104/navsmed41/gardnerstance_zpsivljg9kv.gif)

It doesn't really need that much work. Start with a gethit frankensprite if you want my help getting the style right.

...

Time to get back on topic? ;)

 you pretty much got it all correct from what I remember too. but wow I remember that john by mac, I saw few animations from that long ago, I never asked him about john, al this time I though he gave his work to zvitor and Williams. im going to search thru my harddrives to se if I can find something..
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 21, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
That means Unimited team played a huge part in that project!!  :)

So many great wips by talented creators!! Angelic Charon was in Team Unlimited? I still use his Invincible Woman as I think it has the best design ever made for her!! She just needs more sprites, some new attacks and better coding!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: warecus on June 21, 2017, 02:55:33 PM


This one?

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa104/navsmed41/gardnerstance_zpsivljg9kv.gif)

It doesn't really need that much work. Start with a gethit frankensprite if you want my help getting the style
[/quote]

Yep I made a sprite of him using the bases you told me...probably lost somewhere on the defunct crusadercast.com site
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 22, 2017, 03:06:39 AM
On the topic of War Machine.. I saw someone on YT also informing Magus that this will not work. Magus flat out responded he's not releasing unless he sees those #s  <_<|...|

I still think he's making a mistake.. The ppl that actually want his are probably already subscribed. A lot are content with logansam's version

The YT previews were enough to build interest back into a character teased over 5 years ago

Doesn't even looked like he's cracked +5 in anything he wants +200 in
 :-"

Don't get me wrong, I'd actually like to have his War Machine I just don't see the way he wants it to be released coming into fruition
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 22, 2017, 12:04:36 PM
I totally agree with you!!  ^^(PM)^

So whats the current stats for now:

Facebook Likes so far: 691                      Target: 1000

Youtube subscribers:   419                              Target: 750


Still a long way to run!! Of course I wish him luck to achieve his goal!
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 22, 2017, 01:00:40 PM
I totally agree with you!!  ^^(PM)^

So whats the current stats for now:

Facebook Likes so far: 691                      Target: 1000

Youtube subscribers:   419                              Target: 750


Still a long way to run!! Of course I wish him luck to achieve his goal!

Me too because I actually want his War Machine

I don't see 300 new ppl willing to do all that for 1 character

Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: verz36 on June 22, 2017, 01:06:27 PM
its really easy if you guys want it so bad, then just create like 200 accounts each and subscribe and post likes and you all will get your wishes...  :DxDie


 how things have changed, now the new trend will be to ask either for donation money or subscriptions.  :cool

and the funny thing is that there will be people willing,  :o
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 22, 2017, 01:12:25 PM
its really easy if you guys want it so bad, then just create like 200 accounts each and subscribe and post likes and you all will get your wishes...  :DxDie


 how things have changed, now the new trend will be to ask either for donation money or subscriptions.  :cool

and the funny thing is that there will be people willing,  :o

yeah it's crazy.. I've been subscribed to him for years but i did not click like on Facebook

I don't think people that would appreciate the char should have to wait and see if others want it too by doing something just to get it and then the #s wanting to be reached are flat out absurd

I can stick with logansam's War Machine for now if it's that serious lol
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 22, 2017, 01:23:01 PM
Me too!! I think I could do that only if he would release Dr Strangefate(even if I dont agree with the specific policy)!! lol
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: logansam on June 22, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
times change, in this days some people are waiting for the releases to put them  in his forums and gain money from it, like M.A does,in fact M.A put edits from all the mugen world, and dont care if you dont like it.

this is how the things are working now, i dont see nothing wrong to gain some money from it. i still waiting from M.A my money from host my characters.

and is very simple if you dont want dont do it, and if you want it do it....

@verz thank you


Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 22, 2017, 03:08:23 PM
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how things have changed, now the new trend will be to ask either for donation money or subscriptions. 
Ask for donations in general is not wrong. But ask for donations to a specific character is illegal, because it turns into a sale disguised as a donation.
And this would be very, very bad.
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: verz36 on June 22, 2017, 04:07:06 PM
times change, in this days some people are waiting for the releases to put them  in his forums and gain money from it, like M.A does,in fact M.A put edits from all the mugen world, and dont care if you dont like it.

this is how the things are working now, i dont see nothing wrong to gain some money from it. i still waiting from M.A my money from host my characters.

and is very simple if you dont want dont do it, and if you want it do it....

@verz thank you

 your dragon king is no different than m.a.  so make sure you tell him to give you your cut for helping him.
time will teach you some lessons. why you think everybody left him. the batman that's on his site its 70% unlimited, that was part of his downfall. and many other things that happened. just so you know, I asked for my work to be taken down and he refused. others also asked too. your alliance with him might spell trouble for you in the future. scruffy was a great place long ago and it was the members that made it that way but all that changed and people left. the batman incident created an internal war that made some of the members get away from there.

Ask for donations in general is not wrong. But ask for donations to a specific character is illegal, because it turns into a sale disguised as a donation.
And this would be very, very bad.

 ask for donation the way you ask and others, is not wrong. because you guys use it for the purpose of other people that might want something specific that most likely you wont be interested . so this way people can get things done. I see this as paying for the time u spend in doing something that's others want and not you.. there is nothing wrong in getting donations, because after all they are donations but when its something required in order to release something of speed up something you doing anyway, then its wrong because its not really donation any more..  :)

 
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: Beto on June 25, 2017, 10:38:26 AM
Maybe the problem is that he always wants something in return. Now he wants some 1,000 new subscribers as a condition to release the char. In the next character, he will want something else, perhaps even more impossible to achieve.

This ends up being frustrating, both for him and for who is expecting the char. Both know that they will not gain anything.

If he had more patience and demanded less, he could win many followers, collaborators paypal and patreon over time.

This is the best incarnation of warmachine without a doubt. For the less There is a version by Logansan now, which can further improve with updates
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: dakidbanks on June 26, 2017, 12:16:54 AM
Maybe the problem is that he always wants something in return. Now he wants some 1,000 new subscribers as a condition to release the char. In the next character, he will want something else, perhaps even more impossible to achieve.

This ends up being frustrating, both for him and for who is expecting the char. Both know that they will not gain anything.

If he had more patience and demanded less, he could win many followers, collaborators paypal and patreon over time.

This is the best incarnation of warmachine without a doubt. For the less There is a version by Logansan now, which can further improve with updates

I agree with everything
Title: Re: Warmachine/Iron Man(future release) - What's your thoughts?
Post by: NX-MEN on June 26, 2017, 06:48:32 AM
Totally agree as well!!
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