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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2013, 11:59:17 AM »


Old School is right here! :w00t:
1. Lando never bought it
2. As much as a 2d fan i am with fighting games i cannot deny my ever growing love for 3D . I think to see this game done with 3D style would bring some new fresh air to the series in graphical prowess.
 3. I would only vouch the inclusions of some new characters and  a new plot to follow suit with new characters and old ones being involved. Quite possible as well a new boss. There are  plenty of new type characters from a vast catalog of mythical, magical, and lore characters/creatures to implement into the new game. The game mechanics have always been pretty cool so i wouldnt go all out adding anything too extra ( Ok maybe some better chain combos both air and ground sorta MVC but like O said.,.no bouncing beach bum balls lol )  but just maybe tighting up the way it always have been done.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2013, 12:34:36 PM »
1) how many members here bought DS resurrection?
2) Capcom has recently moved away from traditional handdrawn sprites for 3D models. Which style do you prefer?
3) if DS4 were to be a reality and Capcom-Unity were interested in people's feedback in terms of new mechanics and/or features, and well as updating the gameplay, what would you suggest?

1. I didn't buy it, but I bought everything else they put up to "test the waters." I was was going to buy it until I read this topic though.

2. Depends on how well they're done.

3. Of course new characters, but other than that I'm not sure.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2013, 01:53:52 PM »
1) how many members here bought DS resurrection?
2) Capcom has recently moved away from traditional handdrawn sprites for 3D models. Which style do you prefer?
3) if DS4 were to be a reality and Capcom-Unity were interested in people's feedback in terms of new mechanics and/or features, and well as updating the gameplay, what would you suggest?
1) I don't have money to do so, and I think that none would buy the game if they, like me, probably played in an emulator.
2) 3D would look amazing like it was with Street Fighter.
3) The gameplay could stay the same, but with some cooldown in the EX moves (not the ES, the EX). Also, it could use some rival cutscenes, a darker atmosphere, new characters (maybe make Marionette, Shadow and Anita playable) and a story mode.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2013, 02:01:47 PM »
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2) 3D would look amazing like it was with Street Fighter.

Now we agree. I like 3D graphics with 2D gameplay. Totally 3D gameplay on some games just doesn't works.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2013, 02:04:05 PM »
Now we agree. I like 3D graphics with 2D gameplay. Totally 3D gameplay on some games just doesn't works.
Exactly, like Street Fighter EX for example.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2013, 02:05:14 PM »
Well I have never played the DS games but, I always though they looked cool.

1.I have not bought it but, I might in the future.
2.I do like 2D spite work over 3D but, I am ok with either as long as 3D is done right.
3.I do not know what they could do to improve the games since I have not played the games
but, like one person said a jump to 3D or 2.5D whatever you want to call it would help the game series out I think.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2013, 02:13:02 PM »
Now we agree. I like 3D graphics with 2D gameplay. Totally 3D gameplay on some games just doesn't works.

yeah i agree too. 2.5D would be the exact phase i think they use for it.  that would fit this series even more if done.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2013, 02:49:40 PM »
Everytime someone says "2.5D", a Panda baby dies.
Think about Pandas...

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2013, 02:56:51 PM »
Everytime someone says "2.5D", a Panda baby dies.
Think about Pandas...
Then what would YOU call it?

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2013, 03:07:10 PM »
3) The gameplay could stay the same, but with some cooldown in the EX moves (not the ES, the EX). Also, it could use some rival cutscenes, a darker atmosphere, new characters (maybe make Marionette, Shadow and Anita playable) and a story mode.
I agree with everything except maybe a darker atmosphere.
DarkStalkers shouldn't be too dark, since it has funny moments, too.
And from the charactres you mentioned, Marionette and Shadow need that the most.
And as completely new characters, I suggest:
-a tanooki
-a tengu
-a drunk (!) oni

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2013, 03:10:49 PM »
There is NOTHING like a 2.5D, because it sounds a "half dimension" (0.5D) and this doesn't exist. Remember from the Math lessons? :)

On this case, its a 3D game with a 2D gameplay. Easy like pie. Games like Fatal Fury aren't 2.5D, they fake a Z plane. 3D gameplay isn't the same of 3D. Beat em up games, for example, are 2D games with 3D gameplay, because you have 3 planes.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2013, 06:20:57 PM »
Now we agree. I like 3D graphics with 2D gameplay. Totally 3D gameplay on some games just doesn't works.

Samurai Shodown is the best example of this. Just look at the atrocity that is Edge of Destiny.

Everytime someone says "2.5D", a Panda baby dies.
Think about Pandas...

They are pretty much extinct by now, so it wouldn't make a difference.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2013, 07:34:32 PM »
Exactly, like Street Fighter EX for example.

I don't understand this concept of Street Fighter EX being a bad game. It was a 3D fighter in a 2D field, the only major diference aside from the hurricane kick being replaced was the fact that some characters dogdes were strafes, which work exactly the same way as rolling through a character in 2D. If you dropped the EX characters into the SF4 engine, they'd play the exact same way.
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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2013, 08:03:23 PM »
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They are pretty much extinct by now, so it wouldn't make a difference.
you don't have Jesus in your heart, lol

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I don't understand this concept of Street Fighter EX being a bad game. It was a 3D fighter in a 2D field,
not really, sir. That was a 3D game with 3D gameplay, because you was able to move on all 3 planes.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2013, 08:11:18 PM »
They are pretty much extinct by now, so it wouldn't make a difference.
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I don't understand this concept of Street Fighter EX being a bad game. It was a 3D fighter in a 2D field, the only major diference aside from the hurricane kick being replaced was the fact that some characters dogdes were strafes, which work exactly the same way as rolling through a character in 2D. If you dropped the EX characters into the SF4 engine, they'd play the exact same way.
In a 2D field? No, it was 3D, after all you could move in all directions unlike SF4. This doesn't fit Street Fighter, because of its special attacks, I mean, if were Tekken or Soul Calibur, they use mostly close ranged attacks (depending on each weapon), but Street Fighter has a lot of projectiles, uppercuts and other attacks that fit a 2D gameplay better. I really wanted someone from the SFEX to appear in SF4, too bad Capcom killed them too.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2013, 08:31:25 PM »
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In a 2D field? No, it was 3D, after all you could move in all directions unlike SF4...

This is incorrect. One cannot simply move in and out of the fighting rail. The only 3D movement was if a character had a dodging ability, which like I explained earlier would doesn't change the gameplay anymore that a rolling or a 2D side-step would. For instance, "Evils" slide across a 3d plain backwards and forwards instead of having an after-effect shadow. Either case, a projectile wouldn't hit them.
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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2013, 11:13:45 PM »
1. I bought it because I was told the only reason sf4 and mvc3 were greenlit were because of good sales on the live arcade, so yeah.
2. I would love to see it in 2d. But's gonna be 3d.
3. It's fine the was it is.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2013, 01:16:25 PM »
well with that all said in the video.. i think Darkstalkers 4 : Mugen Version   should be on the community table. dang you Capcom and dang it people!  XD|| XD||

there is more than enough skillful people in mugen community to bring this bad boy to light!  ::salute::

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2013, 01:18:13 PM »
True enough.

In fact I'm surprised no one's made a DS mugen game yet

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2013, 01:23:01 PM »
me either. i was just thinking that same thing awhile back when this thread began.  Wtih all the Marvel, Dc and pretty much anything else being thrown in from companies wether games,comics, anime, tv and celebrities....why not go out the box and do a DS game with old stuff and new created characters thrown in for a new full game mugen experience that really aint been touched i believe. There are fans and we are them! XD|| XD||

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2013, 01:29:11 PM »
True enough.

In fact I'm surprised no one's made a DS mugen game yet

There are some compilations for sure. maybe its because DS have a high number of frames on the characters.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2013, 01:33:49 PM »
There may be a compilation or 2 out there somewhere. I thought there was one now at the MI back in the day hosted.  :-?? but still its no center piece in scale of a solid DS full mugen game.  Yeah good point Illu , especially if going by the frames , like looking at Donovans cape for example cause it close to disney quality a bit i figure.  Wish there was a way to scale that down so it wouldnt scare away people from wanting to even take a crack at it.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2013, 01:36:16 PM »
In RandomSelect Forum there was a Darkstalkers full game WIP called Darkstalkers: Year Of Hell. But I think it was cancelled.

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Re: I think Capcom wants to destroy Darkstalkers too...
« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2013, 01:39:10 PM »
maybe its because DS have a high number of frames on the characters.
Yeah those tend to be a pain to do.

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