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IMT Main => M.U.G.E.N Releases => Topic started by: Acey on May 05, 2009, 03:37:45 PM
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Mayor Mike Haggar by Acey
A few spriters had started to make Haggar but never finished. I decided it was about time that someone did and in the process used sprites from some of my predecessors. My biggest delay was making all the sprites match the same style and when you're taking sprites and shrinking them down, you have ALOT of clean up to do; in the end I ended up replacing most of the older work anyways.
Considering that Zangief was made based on Haggar and replaced Haggar early on in SFII there are a lot of similarities between the two. Capcom wrote it into Zangief's history claiming that the two are rivals who often steal moves from each other. With this in mind I would like to point out that Haggar is not a Zangief clone, and I hope you all fell that way too.
(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/images/Haggar2.png)
Haggar Stage by x-boy
x-boy has been one of the greatest people to work with in Mugen, I just wish both our natural languages were the same, but never the less he has been kind enough to let us use this stage he created in the SMvC project for Haggar. My favorite part is walking to the right and watching the statue of liberty as it changes from night time to morning.
(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/images/HaggarStage.png)
Download:
Mayor Mike Haggar (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Uploads/ACEY/Haggar_MvC.ace)
Metro Stage (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Uploads/ACEY/MetroStage.ace)
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another awesome release and stage :w00t: :w00t:
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Yeeeeeees
Ive so wanted a good Haggar!!!!
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AMAZING JOB ACEY!!! Haggar is a beast. You did an awesome job making this character and seems like you put a lot of time and effort into this release. Thanks again for another great character. :thumbsup:
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Now we know the reason Acey logged in lolol
Thank u so much for the release
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HAGGAR WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nice one AC, i love this character!
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thanks u so much and congrats for this char and stage
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Now I can fight Superman the way it was meant to be done!...
..With a lead pipe! =D
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YES! PILEDRIVERS FOR ALL! ;D
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Im just going to be funny and say
+1
lol
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=D> :) ^^(PM)^ :) =D>
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Nice, only two minor complaints.
The standing HP animation could be a lot smoother, and both Haggar and the opponent are sort of pulled back after the Flying Lariat hyper.
Also, he totally is a Zangief clone... He's just supposed to be, so it's okay. Making a Ken without a Shoryuken and Hadouken so that he wouldn't be a 'Ryu clone' would be equally as stupid. They're similar characters, no worries. :thumbsup:
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Also, he totally is a Zangief clone... He's just supposed to be, so it's okay. Making a Ken without a Shoryuken and Hadouken so that he wouldn't be a 'Ryu clone' would be equally as stupid. They're similar characters, no worries. :thumbsup:
Agreed. ^^(PM)^ Haggar has a justifiable story-related reason to be a clone, so it's okay! :thumbsup: Fighting games all come with their own clones.
If it matters, the only thing that differentiates him from Zangief is his pipe. :P That, and his appearance (obviously ;)).
Also, Haggar's voice is PERFECT! =D>:w00t:
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:ohaggar!!! the day before my birthday??? :o
it's on now.
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=D> only thing I have to say.
YES! PILEDRIVERS FOR ALL! ;D
>:-(-| Haggar is not responsible for any injuries.
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=D> only thing I have to say.
>:-(-| Haggar is not responsible for any injuries.
>:-(-| Vote Haggar for mayor! That is all.
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I can honestly say I have been waiting for Haggar for a long time and I finally got something decent thanks to Haggar and X-Boy much respect!
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finally the holy trinity is reunited again! (Cody-Guy-Haggar):D
Thank's Acey, i now beginning understand how much work is behind this little char ;)
keep going! :rulez:
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Great release Ace, have a suggestion I notice when Hagger does his Lariat and SPD he doesn't say anything and there are no wind effects during either move even though they were prevalent in Zangief's. You should consider adding them.
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Yeah, I still have a lot more vocals and sounds to add, I think I had the important ones in for this release though, the whooshes would have been good ones to have.
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Now I can fight Superman the way it was meant to be done!...
..With a lead pipe! =D
:DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
=D> only thing I have to say.
>:-(-| Haggar is not responsible for any injuries.
:DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
You guys are making me laugh today :thumbsup:
Great release Acey , I was looking forward to this one . Download when I get home from work :thumbsup:
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:thumbsup: ty!!! ^:)^ ^:)^ ^:)^
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Thanks for another great release. I will definitely give this one a try. :thumbsup:
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finally the holy trinity is reunited again! (Cody-Guy-Haggar):D
Thank's Acey, i now beginning understand how much work is behind this little char ;)
keep going! :rulez:
And eventually Kojunho and team will bring us a white shirt Cody too.
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And eventually Kojunho and team will bring us a white shirt Cody too.
Ho ho, I'll be looking forward to that one! ;*))
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Great release! :thumbsup: I download it later.
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I've been waiting for this the longest. Great release!!!!
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Looks like a winner! :o
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Looks like a winner! :o
HI-RES Character? :-??
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Grand release Acey, clone or not, the sprites are truly amazing
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Excellent work here! The Final Fight elements were implemented very well and look great. Love the pipe move. Also the fact that Haggar can walk around with his opponent after he's grabbed them brings back fun memories of playing Final Fight back in the day. Thanks alot for this release. Any plans to have him have special intros for Cody and Guy?
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Haggard, the Old-School fighter, >:( YEAH!!! >:(
Nice release Acey, congratlations ^:)^
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Excellent work here! The Final Fight elements were implemented very well and look great. Love the pipe move. Also the fact that Haggar can walk around with his opponent after he's grabbed them brings back fun memories of playing Final Fight back in the day. Thanks alot for this release. Any plans to have him have special intros for Cody and Guy?
Actually, an intro with Belger could work just as well...;*))
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Both Haggar and the stage are really awesome. i cannot wait to try them out!! :w00t:
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Love the Char Acey but when I added the stage I got this message while my mugen was booting up. How do I fix this?
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/jcmcminis/ErrorMessage.png)
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yeah me too, what gives please help
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Figured it out go into the def file for the stage and on the line where it says name make it look like this.
name = "haggarextrastage"
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>:-(-| Vote Haggar for mayor! That is all.
I disagree:
http://jasonrivera.com/viewarticle.php?art_id=29 (http://jasonrivera.com/viewarticle.php?art_id=29)
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another great work!!!! ;D
good job bro!!! :w00t:
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My 1st thought is rip from Zangief, but NO, it was ripped from HULK !! :( Althought is a good char, but then again, it's Hulk using Zangief's move ???
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I been waiting for him for like forever,
>:-(-| but guys if you think haggar was awesome which he is an thanks acey by the way..... :w00t: :w00t:
Then your gonna luv what i have in store for you guys.... Ohh just wait....
another one of Haggar's rivals i am converting to mvc style with new moves an everything....
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My 1st thought is rip from Zangief, but NO, it was ripped from HULK !! :( Althought is a good char, but then again, it's Hulk using Zangief's move ???
Yep, pretty impressive isn't it? Looks like Haggar to me. Great job Acey. Thanks for all of your work. ::salute::
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Wow!!! you're the best!
Is time to fight (against the gays of cody and guy :P)
;D
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Haven't had a chance to check out any new releases for about a month or more now and it won't change 'til a week or so from now. Just wanted to say thanks for all the releases though and can't wait to get the chance to check this all out at once. :)
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Now i have the main 3 character from final fight in MvC now!
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Now i have the main 3 character from final fight in MvC now!
Do you have a MvC style Cody? :-??
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Do you have a MvC style Cody? :-??
yep!
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=O
Reveal thyself!
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I finally play with Haggar, excellent work Acey :thumbsup:
Nostalgic the pipe thing =D>
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If anybody has MvC Cody send me a PM. Oh and love the Haggar release. Cant wait for more releases.
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If anybody has MvC Cody send me a PM.
This is not the request thread :-w
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^^(PM)^Thanks great
have you think put jessica togeter to hagar in the intro?
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^^(PM)^Thanks great
have you think put jessica togeter to hagar in the intro?
If you ask me, this would work better as a winpose (with both of them adopting the pose they do on the photo at the start of Final Fight, of course ;)).
I been waiting for him for like forever,
>:-(-| but guys if you think haggar was awesome which he is an thanks acey by the way..... :w00t: :w00t:
Then your gonna luv what i have in store for you guys.... Ohh just wait....
another one of Haggar's rivals i am converting to mvc style with new moves an everything....
Sounds like it could be Sodom or...Thrasher!? :o ;D
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^^(PM)^Thanks great
have you think put jessica togeter to hagar in the intro?
She's going to be in one of the endings.
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(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3650/darbythegambler.png)GOOD!
D'Arby the gambler approves this char!
I just wished all mayors were like him! ;D
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Jesse Ventura and Arnold are both similar.
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testing as i type this. his spinning piledriver move is weired when missed he does a punch. he does not combo well on the ground so far. i was only able to chain his three kicks together. it is possible to hit mp into hp but its soooooooo hard and u have to be right next to the opponent. he will also be in my quick vid.
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Haggar's stage doesnt work. Shows an error message.
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Haggar's stage doesnt work. Shows an error message.
Good to see I'm not the only one who saw that. #:-S I thought that I screwed up somewhere.
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Stage updated to fix the name, no other issues were addressed at this time.
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thanks for releasing haggar, acey. i'm gonna test him out. i'm sure he'll be much better than the other haggars out there
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(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ermacwon/Winmugen2009-05-0602-47-23-56.png)
Looks like part of the bridge on the stage is missing. Other than that, awesome stage and char. :)
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:w00t: :w00t:
Thank you Acey!
A character that has been long overdue. I don't get why people put so much time into making all these ryu/ken/akuma clones, when they should have been working on more of the other Capcom Characters.
Now let's see someone make Travis Touchdown (I know he's not capcom), Mask De Smith (Killer7), Batsu (Rival Schools) and a decent Axel (Streets Of Rage).
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......best damn news i heard all day i'll be back later with a review/ tips ^_^
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Thanks for the fun character. The sprites also look fantastic, and I like the moves you've given him as well.
Some kick hit sparks seem to be misaligned (light kick, medium kick and his jump in hard kick), and his piledriver, along with his suplex, seems to only be able to go one way. Lots of fun still, though. =]
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Yes great work !
It worth to wait :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: !
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Thanks for the fun character. The sprites also look fantastic, and I like the moves you've given him as well.
Some kick hit sparks seem to be misaligned (light kick, medium kick and his jump in hard kick), and his piledriver, along with his suplex, seems to only be able to go one way. Lots of fun still, though. =]
Well, if we got everything right on the first try we wouldn't have material for a Release Party next year. This is just job security. :-??
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Well, if we got everything right on the first try we wouldn't have material for a Release Party next year. This is just job security. :-??
Makes sense. That way, we crave for more. =P~
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Nice char, I love hin on classic games, but still miss some bugs to be fixed
Report: when Hagar going to trow and walk the oponente on cpu vs cpu, there are a bug, and don't hapen nothing.
Lovery char, thank you. ;)
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my mugen have a problem with the stage O_o....
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Open DEf of the Stage, and put the name of the stage between coma "" and save.
Like this:
[Info]
name = "way outx haggarextrastage"
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my mugen have a problem with the stage O_o....
Download the latest version. ;)
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Download the latest version. ;)
Yep... It's mutch more easy :P
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Well, if we got everything right on the first try we wouldn't have material for a Release Party next year. This is just job security. :-??
Yeah, I know you're working a lot on different characters. This is really a great job so far. I guess it might be kind of silly to report anything, since you already have the bug report thread with a lot of all ready helpful feedback. =]
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Nope, reporting issues is part of the point, then I fix them all and update the characters again.
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Download the latest version. ;)
thanks :)
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Well after both playing with him and fighting against him here's my Review ^_^
Pros: his sprites are great though his holding the pipe COULD do some more work
he has somewhat aggressive AI
ITS A FINISHED HAGGAR!
Cons:
well when fighting him if he blocks and uses the guard push he'll go RIGHT into the grab animation until you hit him
ONLY 2 supers T_T I miss his maximum bomber from Nam X Cap (Lol that's my personal issue so meh)
his grab opponent is practically useless besides gaining a free hit (my suggestion make the grab into a special where a certain button does something diff. ex grab + HP = Headbutt ^_^)
all in all seeing how theres not that many problems found in this FINISHED HAGGAR!
I'll give it a B+ Keep up the good work hope to see some improvements in the next update
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his grab opponent is practically useless besides gaining a free hit (my suggestion make the grab into a special where a certain button does something diff. ex grab + HP = Headbutt ^_^)
try chaining the throws. HP, MP or HP,Kick
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(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ermacwon/Winmugen2009-05-0602-47-23-56.png)
Looks like part of the bridge on the stage is missing. Other than that, awesome stage and char. :)
I think the stage boundary is set higher than the amount of stage that exists and needs to be lowered.
That's my fault as I gave the stage boundaries and velocities a once-over for the last beta update and overextended this stage.
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:-?? Fix 50 stages, break one, it was a good trade off.
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*Copied from my post on Guild*
Acey, I was a bit bored this morning and started tweaking that incomplete stage...BTW, who's the author...X-Boy? From the .def I can tell he's french, but I don't recognize him from any of the mugen forums....and more importantly...Did he drop this stage...or is he still working on perfecting it? I just don't want my work to be put to waste, that's all.
I'll let you know when I'm done, but it'll probably be by the end of this weekend.
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g267/Apoklepz/SPRITE%20SHEETS/bridge_edit.png)
Also....
[Camera]
boundhigh = -168
...fixes the problem with the stage height when flying or performing a Super Jump.
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*Copied from my reply on the Guild*
Thanks I really appreciate it. x-boy has been in mugen for a long time, he made the original sprites for Human Torch and Silver Surfer and is working on a Final Fight project. He can be found at this French forum:
http://createandplay.free.fr/forum/index.php?topic=189.0 (http://createandplay.free.fr/forum/index.php?topic=189.0)
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Oh, I see now...They're working on a Final Fight Mugen Full Game.
Well...if X-Boy is still going to be working on that stage, I don't think I should keep tinkering with it unless his doesn't support Super Jump and Flying....which apparently the released one does, but has many unfinished sprite flaws due to the height of the stage being taller.
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Oh, I see now...They're working on a Final Fight Mugen Full Game.
Well...if his still going to be working on that stage, I don't think I should keep tinkering with it unless his doesn't support Super Jump and Flying....which apparently the released one does, but has many unfinished sprite flaws.
This stage is actually one that they ended up not using for the Final Fight Project so they're letting us use it for EoH.
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I don't understand how they could ditch this...it has much potential.
Well if that's the case...then count me in to fix it.
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I found a bug:
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1488/mugen0m.png) (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mugen0m.png)
I win the round with the pipe and the battle didn't finish.
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Something else wrong with the stage. If you wait long enough, once it becomes mid-day, part of the sky is blue, while the other part is stuck at dusk looking like 2 skies over each other.
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Acey: I figure you probably read this forum more than the others, but I won't repost stuff I already said.
Look at the responses to this thread. How many people say they like it AND THEN say they will download? It doesn't make sense. For the few that actually tried him out, they like him because he's the missing link in the Final Fight trilogy; basically, for nostalgia. In the 6 pages of this thread I only read like 3 people mention that he has gameplay issues. Only ONE person mentioned he looks like Hulk. Again, it's an issue about standards. And BTW, Sorry, but I don't have to "live with it." It got evicted off my computer.
This is my last post on this char until the next update, which I hope is huge.
My final feedback is that His sprites are not good. I cannot have him in my mugen because looking at him causes my eyes to hurt. My recommendation is, before you even fix sounds and code, please spend some time fixing sprite issues (the proportion is the most important). Thanks and good luck.
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My final feedback is that His sprites are not good. I cannot have him in my mugen because looking at him causes my eyes to hurt. My recommendation is, before you even fix sounds and code, please spend some time fixing sprite issues (the proportion is the most important). Thanks and good luck.
His sprites look fine to me. They were already re-sized from Hulk sprites. But hey, it's your opinion. :-??
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@ Atomic, thanks for coming back over. I hope you're be a lot happier with future updates.
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Well after both playing with him and fighting against him here's my Review ^_^
Pros: his sprites are great though his holding the pipe COULD do some more work
he has somewhat aggressive AI
ITS A FINISHED HAGGAR!
Cons:
well when fighting him if he blocks and uses the guard push he'll go RIGHT into the grab animation until you hit him
ONLY 2 supers T_T I miss his maximum bomber from Nam X Cap (Lol that's my personal issue so meh)
his grab opponent is practically useless besides gaining a free hit (my suggestion make the grab into a special where a certain button does something diff. ex grab + HP = Headbutt ^_^)
all in all seeing how theres not that many problems found in this FINISHED HAGGAR!
I'll give it a B+ Keep up the good work hope to see some improvements in the next update
Man he needs mush more than that. He definetly needs more hypers as u mention, but is not the only thing, he also needs more special moves. Another thing, Y not give him more things to use like a nife' a sword and others. I consider Hagar still a Beta, He still needs allot of work. He still lacking Special Moves' Hypers' And other things can be added like giving him more defrent wepons and maybe if the creator want's to go wild, how about helpers from the final fight univers. So because of this I can't give him a B+ like u did, BC he still needs improvement. I'll give him a C+
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Man he needs mush more than that. He definetly needs more hypers as u mention, but is not the only thing, he also needs more special moves. Another thing, Y not give him more things to use like a nife' a sword and others. I consider Hagar still a Beta, He still needs allot of work. He still lacking Special Moves' Hypers' And other things can be added like giving him more defrent wepons. So because of this I can't give him a B+ like u did, BC he still needs improvement. I'll give him a C+
I give him a B+, yeah, he's not finished yet. He does have more spcials than Zangief although I still have 2 more hypers to add as well.
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oh yeah when he grabs the opponent you will you make him able to jump while holding the opponent in his hold position lik ein the real game?
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oh yeah when he grabs the opponent you will you make him able to jump while holding the opponent in his hold position lik ein the real game?
Yes, I'll also be adding more leadpipe attacks and the ability to jump with the leadpipe. All in due time.
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ah i see. i cant wait to see how u put it together
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Yes, I'll also be adding more leadpipe attacks and the ability to jump with the leadpipe. All in due time.
That's great to hear! A little more bang for that FF experience. :thumbsup:
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and maybe like cody in SFalpha3 link a weapon to him in the stage to grab for make different moves and other
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Oh yeah! Nicely done character yo..... 8)
You rock! 8)
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Hi, i am Jellyfish
I started working on sprites for Haggar some time, but several issues could not continue. :'(
So I congratulate those that have completed what I started. :thumbsup:
Thank you for including in the credit. ;D
greetings
la.jellyfish@gmail.com
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I got to say that I love this Haggar !
I think about one thing ,
maybe it's too late for ideas , lol ,
but did you plan to add him a special attack
where he can heat something like an apple or a chicken to regain some life ?
Anyway I'd love the work done by Jellyfish ,
and I love the work you done and the add you made on this Haggar , Acey !
like the MVC announcer says : "Wonderful !" :thumbsup:
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WOOOOOOOOAH! Probably has to be one of the best Haggars yet. He's awesome!
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Boy, two wrestling giants... Good job!
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Another char I have been eagerly awaiting, the sprites are spot on, the re-sizing must have been a bee-otch to do Acey. Brilliant start, I look foward to seeing what else you implement.
Thanx again & Kind Regards, SPAN... ;D
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it was about time that i would see mike haggar in mugen it looks awesome, but i wonder how long did it take to finish him? Im asking because i never see haggar like this, its cool. Nice job man :thumbsup:
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Yes, I'll also be adding more leadpipe attacks and the ability to jump with the leadpipe. All in due time.
I don't know if u or anyone in here have notice but there is another very good haggar out there done by (Abuhachi)
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=94713.0 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=94713.0)
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yep got that one
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Haggar's AI has been tweeked and a few bugs have been fixed, most notably the push guard. Link is in the first post.
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Thanx for the update Acey
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thanks for the update acey. :)
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keep it up man hopefully we will be able to see some more moves from the mayor of metro city my man.
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Thanks Boss! ::salute::
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(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs49/300W/f/2009/199/e/e/Haggar_for_a_better_tomorrow_by_Coelasquid.jpg)
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nice char your really good but you should make more chars newer
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Acey, you never cease to amaze me!
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Acey, you never cease to amaze me!
I couldn't agree more lol
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Thanks, I appreciate it, I'm working on Captain America right now but Haggar has another update coming his was in the future.
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Thanks, I appreciate it, I'm working on Captain America right now but Haggar has another update coming his was in the future.
Really? Well, I am looking forward to both of those. ;)
Good luck and do your best, boss! %%- ::salute::
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Thanks, I appreciate it, I'm working on Captain America right now but Haggar has another update coming his was in the future.
Another update. Awsome! Can't wait for it. Keep up the great work! ^_^