Post by: verz36 on December 04, 2016, 09:20:09 AM
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Post by: jax123 on December 04, 2016, 09:58:30 AM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on December 04, 2016, 10:23:33 AM
Actually, not sure if childish is the correct word. Children behave better than this.
I'm sorry this happened to you, man. We're all gonna miss you. Just take care of yourself and your loved ones, and best of luck with wherever you go from here :Terry
Post by: manluis on December 04, 2016, 11:47:50 AM
i hope you change your mind, these threats don't really sound credible, and if they are then wow zox really is crazy
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 04, 2016, 11:52:31 AM
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Actually, not sure if childish is the correct word. Children behave better than this.No, its not childish. This is criminal.
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on December 04, 2016, 02:15:17 PM
Post by: Silverzero on December 04, 2016, 02:23:06 PM
No, its not childish. This is criminal.
Criminal is almost correct. This seems like something worse than criminal.
Post by: NX-MEN on December 04, 2016, 03:13:40 PM
Post by: Magma MK-II on December 04, 2016, 04:41:41 PM
Post by: dev. on December 04, 2016, 05:00:58 PM
You need to understand that, MMV will never change, so if you want to stay, get used to them doing all this kind of crap. If you want to leave, thank you for everything you've done to mugen. It's sad that MMV got into your head so easily and someone now is very satisfied because of that. Good luck.
Post by: DEMONKAI on December 04, 2016, 05:30:51 PM
Post by: WizzyWhipitWonderful on December 04, 2016, 06:14:26 PM
Verz, thank you for being a friend I could count on; we've had many talks and discussions and you've given my musical works so much life. Whatever you choose to do, do it to the best of your ability--I will be showcasing your works and will probably do a farewell video to you on my channel.
I hope one day you will return, and this will all be behind you...
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on December 04, 2016, 07:17:12 PM
See, I was right the other day about you retiring because of that buffon. I am a bit disappointed in you. First of all, that guy has mental disorder, but somehow he managed to make you quit. Those kind of guys need help.
You need to understand that, MMV will never change, so if you want to stay, get used to them doing all this kind of crap. If you want to leave, thank you for everything you've done to mugen. It's sad that MMV got into your head so easily and someone now is very satisfied because of that. Good luck.
That was rather back-handed. You don't know his struggle, so don't act like it's some easy thing for him to have to deal with. I've seen just PIECES of what he's had to deal with in the past regarding this situation and trust, he's not coming to this lightly.
Post by: dev. on December 04, 2016, 08:10:08 PM
That was rather back-handed. You don't know his struggle, so don't act like it's some easy thing for him to have to deal with. I've seen just PIECES of what he's had to deal with in the past regarding this situation and trust, he's not coming to this lightly.Wasn't meant to sound like that. I know all about it, don't worry.
It's just that I spoke with Verz via pms a few days ago about this topic and he seemed so confident. This man really loves what he's doing and the only thing that bothers me is that them scumbags got to his head. Verz is a great guy and i'm really sorry for what he's going through now. He should've stop answering zox long time ago. If you can't help, you can only ignore a person with mental issues.
Post by: Xfields on December 04, 2016, 08:19:16 PM
I tought me and zox where ok, he apologised long ago and i wanted to suport him because we was spriting it nicely.
I guess mugen brings some drama to the recipe
Post by: volzzilla on December 05, 2016, 12:00:28 AM
1) no one makes any money on mmv. we use a free forum format and the server hosts put ads on it to cover their costs for giving away free webhosting
2) why the hell am i being attacked? i did nothing regarding all of this. i ask for imt to remove this topic because he turned it into some attack thread on me and mmv
3) the guild set the standard for editing in mugen. we adopted it but with some changes which can be read about here: http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t55-our-rules-on-creation
4) funny how verz attacks mmv about editing, but how zero problem with the place that popularized the ideal
5) i spoke with buyog about sinestro and all his work. he's fine as long as credited, which is what we've done. in fact, we've done that all along per #3 on this list
Post by: HornTitan on December 05, 2016, 04:19:22 AM
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 05, 2016, 04:55:00 AM
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i ask for imt to remove this topicSorry but I won't do it. The first time Verz made a topic about this, I removed it because was just a forum war. But now involves a crime. Sending death threats is a crime. Please, mind about your forum.
The same info were posted at Guild http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2309925 Will you go there ask to remove too?
As opposite to your forum, they jump at the trigger and permanent ban Zox from there and gave all personal info about him to Verz, because its whats the Law say when a crime happens.
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Typical attack on MMV.Really? Take a look: http://imgur.com/a/DArwY
(warning: strong language)
And he had posted the "insults" he had received here too:
http://vampirekillers.boards.net/page/responce-to-mugen-ad
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You're not the star anymore and that bugs you so you gotta destroy the current superstarshahaha hahaha. That gave me a long laugh.
That forum has a bad reputation, which they earned it. They created the monster, now feed it.
We won't tolerate attack to our users here, so please stop it.
Post by: ExeLord on December 05, 2016, 05:31:13 AM
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 05, 2016, 06:27:36 AM
Post by: logansam on December 05, 2016, 10:40:26 AM
\-/o
Post by: dev. on December 05, 2016, 01:49:21 PM
http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t2568-no-one-receives-ad-revenue-of-any-kind-from-mmv-except-server-host-forumotion-comIf you have a little bit of common sense in you, you will ban his @ss from your site. This ain't the XVlV century.
1) no one makes any money on mmv. we use a free forum format and the server hosts put ads on it to cover their costs for giving away free webhosting
2) why the hell am i being attacked? i did nothing regarding all of this. i ask for imt to remove this topic because he turned it into some attack thread on me and mmv
3) the guild set the standard for editing in mugen. we adopted it but with some changes which can be read about here: http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t55-our-rules-on-creation
4) funny how verz attacks mmv about editing, but how zero problem with the place that popularized the ideal
5) i spoke with buyog about sinestro and all his work. he's fine as long as credited, which is what we've done. in fact, we've done that all along per #3 on this list
Post by: dev. on December 05, 2016, 01:56:10 PM
So far it looks like jealousy. You're not the star anymore and that bugs you so you gotta destroy the current superstarsWtf?! Who the heck is this guy?
Dude, did you even read what verz posted? And jealousy of what? Don't make me laugh.
Post by: mon-el on December 05, 2016, 09:02:22 PM
\-/o
You've earned the respect from fellow creators and regular people in general with everything you have done.
Thank you for what you gave us, and for getting to know you and how talented you are.
:) :thumbsup:
Post by: Random Regular on December 06, 2016, 09:27:53 AM
Post by: manluis on December 06, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
this is someone threatening to leak personal and private info that can severely affect someone (ex: stalkers, credit card info leaked which leads to fraud, identity theft, etc.)
now, im not sure if zox is even capable of doing all that, he sounds like he's just trying to scare verz but this stuff is a very serious matter, this isn't about verz giving up this is about verz trying to protect his security, christ.
Post by: Xfields on December 06, 2016, 10:35:25 PM
You can all add me on facebook now.
i dont know why he still involved me, i dont even have verz in my facebook, that i even posted here once.
but after all, ZOX is full of SH*T,he once tried to blackmail me that if i didn't allow him to use cat woman sprites he would leak it because he had everything.
in the end, all he had was every sprite i posted, and even some took from screenshots, what ended up to be funny and he embarrassed himself
i tought me and him were in a good place, i even posted to congratulate him for his good work on Spider Woman.
well the man went crazy after all.
Post by: gokudo99 on December 07, 2016, 03:19:43 PM
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 07, 2016, 04:16:55 PM
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It's sad that we are losing the other half of one of the greatest two man teams in mugen (verz & loganir).Connect the dots: both decided to quit thanks to users which were praised by a specific forum (and backed up by their admins also).
Coincidence?
Post by: DukeNukem 2417 on December 07, 2016, 04:27:38 PM
Post by: dev. on December 07, 2016, 05:31:40 PM
Connect the dots: both decided to quit thanks to users which were praised by a specific forum (and backed up by their admins also).No coincidence. And sadly at this moment I can count the good creators on the fingers of my left hand. They are very few and it's sad 'cause we can't enjoy watching their art anymore. I think Xfields is about to leave as well. Who's next? You? Zvitor? Navs?
Coincidence?
Post by: Jessica Smoke on December 10, 2016, 02:50:13 PM
Post by: WizzyWhipitWonderful on December 10, 2016, 06:10:32 PM
Connect the dots: both decided to quit thanks to users which were praised by a specific forum (and backed up by their admins also).
Coincidence?
I almost forgot that Zox was also responsible for Loganir's leave as well...this guy is doing DAMAGE to the mugen community.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on December 10, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
I almost forgot that Zox was also responsible for Loganir's leave as well...this guy is doing DAMAGE to the mugen community.I thought AxKeeper was the reason Loganir left
Post by: supa2520 on December 10, 2016, 06:45:21 PM
I thought AxKeeper was the reason Loganir leftguess they both did another on them ijs :-??
Post by: NX-MEN on December 10, 2016, 06:47:48 PM
I thought AxKeeper was the reason Loganir left
Yeah that's correct!!
Post by: Xfields on December 10, 2016, 07:57:06 PM
I am actually craving my way back
Post by: ZVitor on December 10, 2016, 10:19:14 PM
Post by: Shockdingo on December 11, 2016, 01:38:50 AM
Post by: verz36 on December 13, 2016, 09:38:38 PM
this first is for zox, im not weak or scare of you. the reason why i quit is because i dont want to deal with you and your crew. you hate me for the simple reason that i dont stay quiet when u try and do anything that has to do with me. i never been the type of person that gets slapped and turns his face and give the other side to get slap again. i have never been afraid of letting the public know of people like you. with you, its the same case of the thief that takes the sprites and then when you are told about it, you feel offended. no, do your own thing and you will not find yourself in this situations. its that simple. like xfield said, you demanded he letting you use his work, u did the same to me and now people can see the thruth about you. you dont own people to demand things and if they say no why you turn against them? mind your business and stay away. i mean lets say something, you do got talent so why not make your own? and then if you already have problems with me over me not giving you my sprites why you keep trying to take things from my characters? like that pinisher walk you said you hand drew that, lol!!!! you can lie to those new comers but you cant lie to the people that know and thats why i showed were you got those legs. and this got you more mad, so why try to say you made it? if you were a little smart you would just avoid me and anything that has to do with me. you would stay away and leave me alone. and if your beef is with me, why try to involve others? just because i know them and we cool with eachother? you really need to seek professional help. and its funny that after your boss unleashed you, now you got banned from your so called home base. anyways, dont dare me to come back with your threats, i left because this wont stop and i dont mean just with you..oh and so you can know something, i learned how to sprite the other day, but i been hand drawing since i was a kid. at one point in my life i was doing even graffiti which before spritting was a major part of my life too. i think i can draw pretty good and it helped me learning to sprite and also helped me when i did my scratch work too. just because you dont see me posting hand drawn things dont think i dont do. as a matter of fact i bet most of the spriters around can hand draw too and this is what helps them do their sprites so nice...
now, this is for you mr adminbot or should we just cut the bull and call you volzilla? dont play the victim here, we both know whats going on. but for those that dont know let me brief them quick. first let me say, that in case you forgot i used to like you as a person and the things you did in the past. you were always cool with me but then you became evil. i started reading this things i could not believe. still i didnt care and kept cool with you until you did it to me. remember when you released your screenpack with some of my works there? i know thats not such a big deal but still if you know me, i think a pm with heads up about this would had been ok, i would had said ok. dont forget that i even was trying to help out by releasing things there and posting my works too so that shows you i wanst against you and your forum. then the incident with electro, were you was trying to downgrade electro into just an update for the sake of the character not winning in your site because this you dont like, you manipulate things because you want to have things your way. still electro won and did you see either loganir or me going there to say anything? no we left it like that since you dont like character that are not from there winning anything. electro was a total new character in every category. he was coded from scratch, and all different moves and even the sprites got a big face lift. but still you insisted and got mad about our coversations and thats when this thing started. its funny how some people just call it drama but dont see it for what it really is. you are always behind it. first the ax incident and now zox incident and they both come from you.. is that a coincedence? and whats more funny is that after all you banned them to save face. oh wait, if im not mistaking according to your rules, they both are not doing anything bad, because those rules say you can take sprites and everything is open source no matter what the creator thinks. so why ban them? oh wait, i forgot that the guild set the rules around for anything mugen related, they are the mugen law... please dont hide behind them. i spoke with one of the guys from there and we had a great conversation, he axplained to me their reasons and their believes and i explain mine. i understood why they doing it and he understood mine. at the end, nothing changed but they dont manipulate people because of their views on permission and credit. they are a nice place that have lot of great people and not too much comic characters like us. but you adopted this views they have because it fits your agenda since you like to manipulate people. and for those of you that dont believe me, google volzilla name and read how he got banned at different sites for manipulating people. he was trying to get the new talent and take them to his site and even told this people to not post their work at other places. so he is trying to make trollverse the ultimate place in mugen but with his bad intentions. why not let those guys free to post their work everywhere? YOU ARE THE JUDAS OF MUGEN. you represent whats bad about mugen and you are part of the reason we keep losing good creators. you just want to have all the material you can to promote more traffic to your place. you hate me because of the same case like your minion zox, the same story of the thief that gets mad when he gets exposed. you wont stop at any cost. this is why im not going to continue the battle, you win. you dont need to send your minions anymore, you dont need to ban them either. you are such a character that even after zox said the things he said and what he is planning to do to people that didnt do anything to him, you still trying to work it with him after you banned him, so what this tells you? let me guess, you didnt had anything to do with it. you created the moster, so take responsability. go ahead and take him back dont worry about saving face, people already know who u are and why you and your place got a bad reputation. those that create and post on your site will sooner or later get bite too just like you did to logansam. oh but thats how you treat the people that support your site. since you seem to like to try to clean your way out of things and always have answers for whats going on, answer this questions if you can please.
1- why did you get banned from scruffy?
2- why did you get banned from the guild?
3- why did you get banned from cvg?
oh, wait, all those places are liars and they just against you for nothing. right? try to explain your way out of those questions. and i dont keep asking you more because im sure you just going to embarrased yourself. im the bad one for not letting you get away with your bulls***.
im the bad one for not allowing you to let your minions use my works. and im the bad one for not staying quiet when you and your minions are just spreading lies.
last thing i have to say because wow, i never would believe unless i saw the screens about this guy with that beautiful line about the superstars. lol!!!! this one has to win for quote of the year. man, jealous of what? i never consider myself any superstar nor i like people praising me for anything. im just a regular guy that likes to sprite. but since you are calling people superstars at mmv, please let me know who are this superstars and what have they done and created. because from what i think the only superstars here are the people that did the orginal sprites at capcom which we all use to make our characters. those are i think the superstars..
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on December 14, 2016, 02:06:39 PM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on December 14, 2016, 07:16:50 PM